January 11, 2006 at 1:10pm
In case you haven't noticed the other posts on the subject - GET A SUMMIT VIPER OR GOLIATH!
Goliath is a little bigger on the upper part (the part with the seat not where your feet go).
Snake, your comment on cables being noisy is way off when it comes to the Summit stands. You will not find one quieter, easier, or quicker to get on the tree and start climbing.
A lot of people like the Ol' Man stands but here's one drawback for sure. If you climb it on a skinny tree, you will be getting pinched around the kidney area when you sit down facing away from the tree (the way most people hunt). Look at how it's made with the seat/climber part and you'll see why this happens. The supports flex where they attach to the frame and will come in on you on a skinny tree.
The API's are pretty good, but there chain or whatever it is that goes around the tree is clumsy and not near as easy as the Summit.
I will also say this and get off the soap box. Tree Lounge makes a VERY comfortable and sturdy stand. They are unconventional but they work good. Even with the bow hunting adapter I would still prefer it for gun hunting only (my opinion). A drawback for them is they are expensive.
For the money you will not beat a Summit Viper or Goliath, but hey, it's your $$$ so get what YOU like!