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Have been watching this site for quite some time. Have heard ideas about problems with deer hunting with dogs. When is the state going to do someting about this situation. The way I see it they want some kind of management but will not do what it takes to really promote it. This state is mainley made up of clubs with some type of management systems. Many many clubs with point spread restrictions and running dogs all over. I wonder how many times a deer was shot and the horns shrunk when they hit the ground because the deer was running thru the woods behind dogs. I know that is a hunter problem but it is also a state problem because the state ignores that problem. Well all these folks that don't like the presence of dogs during deer season need to go to the meetings and voice their openions. ......And if not, just be quiet.
Thanks for your time....that is just my 2 cents.
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Dogs
I get tired of hearing all of these post griping about hunting with dogs. I am on a dog running club and we keep them off of other people's property. Somebody always has something to say about the way somebody else chooses to hunt. If you don't like it go to Texas where they don't run dogs and see if you want to pay at least $5000 dollars to shoot deer that are farmed like cattle.
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RXHUNTER
I guess your deer dogs mark and take hand signals to. That is the biggest line of crap I have heard in a long time. You can not keep deer dogs off of other poeples property no matter what you do. Deer dogs are breed to run and thats just what they will do. Oh, if you don't like it you go to the fox pen.
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Dogs
Thats what I'm talking bout Rxhunter. I too hunt with dogs and so does 90% of clubs in my area also. We have no problem with our dogs.

It is in the book that we can run them and as long it is that way, I'm running them hard.

Yall post stupid dog reports and wait for someone to comment about dogs then jump all over them about it.

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Dogs
The only way to stop inconsiderate dog hunters is to prevent their dogs from returning to them. There are many ways to do this. Eventually they get the message and/or get tired of replacing dogs. Been there, done that.
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Dogs
They don't have to mark or take hand signals. We surround the block we turn out in and they all have tracking collars.
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KEEP YOUR DOGS OUT
I don't hunt Texas I hunt Mississippi and my family owns more than 1000 acres that we manage very well and I can tell you this it bothers the hell out of me to have your dogs and my property or anyone elses dogs as far as that goes. I have a new theory I will start collecting tracking collars next year. I won't hurt the dog but you will have to look harder to find him. It is not his fault he is doing what he is told. Its the owners that don't put up a stand line and stop there dogs..
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stand line
thats a joke if i ever heard one--600 acres is 1 square mile--you would have to have 100 people to be 200yds apart--and 600 acres is not enought to run dogs--people were not just born yesterday--
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My Opinion
Sounds like you had the same answer that I did if you can not keep your dogs on your property and make a stand line to do so then I will assist you in removing your tracking collars. Keep your eye on the classified ads next season I will sell them back to you for half the price of new ones.
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tracking collars
Those collars are bringing good money on ebay. the johnson collars are going for 40 to 70 dollars. Innoteks are more than that. I've added a few "discounted" innotek collars to my tracking system this year. let me know if you have any innoteks for sale.
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Shooting Dogs
Good luck shooting dogs you just better hope you don't get caught. You would be in alot more trouble, more than you would expect along with the judges and the dog owners that spend alot of money and time training these dogs. If you want to continue hunting. They just might revoke your hunting privaleges you shoot a few dogs. I really don't think you belong in the woods deer hunting anyway if Your out there shooting deer hounds. Good luck you will need it next year. You probally need some serious help.. Later I hunt Miss myself but i still hunt there the dogs are everywhere they don't bother me any more its a way of hunting.
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Crazy White Boy
My sentiments exactly! Keep your dogs out!

There was a similar post on this about 4-5 mos. ago. Things got ugly and I believe it was pulled due to some threats and harsh language let's all be civilized and agree to disagree. People will do what they see fit no matter what. Let it die. Capt C
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Night Train Smoking?
Who said anything about shooting the dogs I said that I was going to remove the tracking collars and turn them loose. Where in any of these post did anybody say anything about shooting the dogs? Keep your dogs off or I will keep those pretty collars and use that money to buy fence and help you keep your dogs off. You are buying my post and losing your dogs hey that works for me.
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Crazy White Boy
I guess I'll have to tell my buddies that hunt around Kiln,Ms that if they have tracking collars missing that they need to contact you Mr.Galatas.
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Thats a Fact
I will sell them to them real cheap...........
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task force
I think that's what the dog task force is trying to do.Most hunters, non-hunters,-anti-hunters don't like"someone-else's" bunch of dogs runining their day, weather on public or private land.hunting or bird watching, flower feeling, whatever.just don't bother most people and they won't bother you. which is common-courtsey.
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dog attack
yeah that would work ray--shoot to defend yourself--good idea--would not want to be bitten by a rabid dog--
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PAPA-T
That's a great idea, but why should the people who aren't causing the problem be responsible for putting up the fences? It should be the dog hunters that should have to put up a fence to keep their dogs under control. It's the same thing as if your neighbor owns a pit bull. Should you have to put up a fence to keep his dog out? Or should he have to put up a fence to keep his dog in?
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ray
i agree with you--just got the rabids idea from yur post--would be a valid defense in shooting one--
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monies
the ldwf are always looking to make more money--if dogs are going to be allowed on public land charge them for the use--like us bowhunters need a special lic. or muzzle loaders is a special lic. turkey hunting why not dog hunting which causes the most problem on the wmas--in theory the hunters with these extra lic. should be able to say no dog hunting while i am bow or muzzle etc. because i am paying more for my lics.--ok ldwf heres more monies--could even be a per dog fee
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FEES
FIRST OF ALL IT'S NOT LAWFUL TO RUN DOGS DURING MUZZLELOADER SEASON, AND WHEN IT'S BOWHUNTING ONLY SEASON.

SECOND OF ALL DOG HUNTERS PAY JUST AS MUCH AS OTHER HUNTERS TO HUNT, EVEN MORE DOG FOOD IS A TAXABLE ITEM, AND WE BUY PLENTY.
THIRD WHY NOT CHARGE FEES TO POST HERE, AND I BET THAT WE WOULD GET ABOUT HALF THE AMOUNT OF GOOFY COMMENTS WE GET NOW, THIS IS SUPPOSED TO A SITE FOR HUNTERS TO ENJOY INSTEAD OF ALL OF THIS NON-SENSE THAT HAS BEEN GOING ON FOR-EVER.

SO LONG AND GOOD-LUCK NEXT HUNTING SEASON
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pay more
howndog,hell,i'd pay the fee just to watch you go down kicking & screaming with all your intellegent posts.by the way you may like that idea next year..when it's all you got.. really;pay more taxes??what's next? I would pay a fee NOT-TO-HAVE-DOGS RUINING MY HUNTING SEASON.
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Respect
It all boils down to R-E-S-P-E-C-T if you hunt public land then you will have other hunters on the land with you nothing anyone can say or do about it. It is for all the public to hunt however they choose. But if you are in a still hunting club or if you own property then you should be able to hunt it as you please also. If you choose to still hunt your land that is your choice if you choose to let people tresspass that is your choice. It all falls back to RESPECT. Everyone wonders what is wrong with the kids in this world today why they act like they do it is because there parents haven't taught them respect for other peoples property and not to tear it up or to tresspass on it. Case closed that is it in a nut shell. Take your family hunting enjoy the outdoors and RESPECT your neighbors by letting them do the same that is all I ask far. And what I see on here that is all that is being said over and over again. You have bad apples that spoil everything for everyone you can be fishing and have guys fly by and not slow down once again the word RESPECT comes to mind, Just cause there parents didn't teach them any better don't stoop to that level. Do what your parents taught you and respect other people and there freedom and right to bear arms and enjoy the outdoors just like you do. And while you are doing that teach the kids around you the respect that you want passed on to the next generation. Be a leader and not a follower.
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Respect
Very well said Crazy White Boy, you it the nail on the head. If everyone would follow your suggestion, hunting across the board would be good for all and society a better place in general. RESPECT!!!!
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RESPECT
CWB HOW IS STEALING TRACKING COLLARS RESPECTFUL, AND HOW IS BRAGGING ABOUT STEALING DOG COLLARS RESPECTFUL. THEN YOU SAY THAT YOU HUNT IN MISSISSIPPI, THIS IS LOUISIANA SPORTSMAN, SO I DON'T CARE WHAT YOU DO IN MISSISSIPPI.
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Hounddawg
Like I said earlier if you read my post you would know what it is about. How is tearing up my stuff and shooting where me and my kids legal or respectful. The collars I took were handed over to the authorities and the people were warned fair and square to stay off of my land. It continued and they were warned again it still continued I know who I am dealing with if I get respect they will too. But when you continuosly dis respect someone they will get you in the end. I am fencing my property and I am going to turn livestock loose on it you know what the law says if the dogs are disturbing the live stock you have the right to shoot them. I do not want to do that it is not the dogs fault that he has an owner that can not read posted signs or choosed to drive thru my food plots or even the one that shot right past me while I was hunting with a rifle while he was tresspassing it is not the dogs fault that we have ignorant people like this to deal with. Like I said earlier you show me respect and you will get the same. I had 14 tracking collars that were turned into DWLF. I did not keep any although I could have. Also the name collars went with them and the pictures of the trucks and the stupid people driving them. You know what it did not stop them. So what do I do now we own we do not lease and we do not hunt public land as I said earlier you show me respect and you will get it until then I will do what I have to do.......
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Just so you know
I do not hide behind a computer screen either. My name is Charlie Galatas and I live in Hahnville La. I am in the book if you are interested I aint scared.
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I wonder
This has given me a good idea crazy white boy..the whole taking the tracking collars and selling them.... heck....thats the plan...sell the tracking collars at 50% sell the dogs at about 200 dollars a piece.... sell keys to four wheelers at half the price of a new ignition...collars and tags and ect will be sold seperately too... there will also be business cards with the name of the nearest eye clinic for them to get glasses to read the posted signs... books to learn their abc's and basic words like POSTED..KEEP.. OFF ..NO..TRESSPASSING.. wait that word might be kinda long for them to read lets make the signs more simple or something....maybe that's just it....SOME dog hunters havent learned their basic education yet....
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It all Goes back to Respect
Teach your kids to respect other peoples property and they will keep this as adults and remember what they have learned. I hunt with my kids and when I have someone shoot in my direction on my land tresspassing he has dis respected me and will pay for what he has done. I will be noce and respect others and expect the same.If you choose to dog hunt then by all means dog hunt but respect the people around you that dont and keep your dogs in the area that you are hunting that is not asking to much. IT is all about respect.............I enjoy hunting grew up as a dog hunter but now I like piece and quiet it is the way I choose to be. It is my right for living in a free country.
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RESPECT!!!
Crazywhiteboy what you did was RIGHT!!!! Those are the type of dog hunters we all are screaming about.Yes I am dog hunter the club I hunting club gives it 110% to keep owr dogs on are lease are state land that borders it.And yes sometimes they do cross to non dog running clubs.When this happens were just as pissed off as those clubs or because that means some in owr club didn't do his job,99% of the time some else has go, to solve that problem.This doen't happen very often,we do are best to stop owr dogs from leaving owr hunt,that is out of respect for the still hunters.So how about giving the dog hunter that do there best to keep there dogs where they should be a little repect.
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WANT TO BE BOONE&CROCKETT
Son you are taking crazy white boys side,that good,but aleast his tlking about RESPECT!!!!!!! The way you post on here you aren,t showing any RESPECT... Your daddy every took you behind the wood shed and worn that butttt out....every dently not........Grow up and learn some respect.
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hound-trespasser
wish you were right about running dogs during bow season that would mean no dogs the whole season--bow season goes from oct 1 to jan.31--
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Bust In Clays
I agree if someone had there dogs cross over on our land and came and asked if they could go and get them it would be no problem I would open the gate and go with them. That is respect. But when they go and tear down fences and tear up what we have because they feel that they can go and come as they please that is when I have a problem. The whole issue about dog hunting and still hunting is to respect the others. We don't have to fight we all need to enjoy what we enjoy and help each other. A few bad apples spoil the barrel for everyone. I even had a retired game warden look me in the eye and tell me that there was no such thing as private property they could go anywhere they wanted to retrieve there dogs needless to say he got a lesson in respect and met a coon ass with an attitude.
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ok
haha... i'm not a wanna be... i said something in the other post and i just said that it was an idea from crazy white boy.... who ever said i wanted to be like him...i'm my own person... heck i'm deaf how can i ever be like him... but ok if u want to think i want to be like him then sure man....you get a pat on the back for thinking like that....my dad has tried many things but im still hard headed as hard headed can be.... but i guess maybe alot of times i dont get respected.... lets start with the story... when this season i told someone to kindly take the dogs off the property they said oh ill catch them later after we finish hunting....they said no....they said it shouldnt matter to me cuz i was deaf and it shouldnt bother me anyway...so somebody wants to cricitize me for whatever .. but really i dont care...I just stop showing them respect and it put a bad name in my head for alot of dog hunters... but not all i mean my god-father is a dog hunter i dont havent a problem with it... at least he hunts on an island...all i am putting my comments against are the ones who show no respect... for i will show no respect back..much less No mercy for their things
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Spellcheck for bustinclays
Son you are taking crazy white boys(boy's...use an apostrophe when referring to someone's objects,feelings,ect.) side,that(needs to be apostrophe s as in that's) good,but aleast(atleast) his tlking(talking) about RESPECT!!!!!!! The way you post on here you aren,t(aren't needs apostrophe not a comma) showing any RESPECT... Your daddy every(ever) took you behind the wood shed and worn(wear) that butttt(should be two t's but i'll let that one slide) out....every dently(evidently) not........Grow up and learn some respect.

all the things in the parentheses are your corrections hope it helped.. have a nice day
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WANT TO BE BOONE&CROCKETT
This isn,t english class IF you corrected me then I got my point across.
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Bustingclays
Do you hunt with L.H.C.?I think our leases border each other.
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CWB
I DO HAVE RESPECT, I THINK THAT WE HAVE A GOOD RELATIONSHIP WITH THE CLUB NEXT TO US, WHEN EVER I SEE THEM, DURING HUNTING SEASON OR NOT I STOP AND TALK TO THEM, NO WE DO NOT AGREE ON EVERYTHING BUT WE ARE CIVIL.
AS FAR AS PEOPLE TEARING UP YOUR PROPERTY AND SHOOTING DOWN YOUR PIPELINE THEY NEED A KICK IN THE BUTT.
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Micha
Is that Wilson in that pic with fish?....Looks like him
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So now WE ALL AGREE
If we respect our neighbors and hunt together and enjoy the sport we can all get something out of it. The good hunters need to ban together and stop the fighting amongst our group and work on the ones that don't respect what we stand far....... Enough said.......
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AMEN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
AMEN!!!!!!!! Crazy White Boy
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Chew Rouge
Yes that is him.
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trespassing
trepassing is trespassing. i would call local law on tresspassers. why not a dog. A hunter is resposible for his actions. if the dog wanders off the owners land it is trespassing. Can you press charges on the dogs owner if the dog is found on your land. you can certainly press charges against someone tresspassing. why not the dog? the dog is under the owners supervision/control right? citations need to be issued. or pick the dog up and bring to wlf and report it. let the owner go pick up the dog from the local wlf office along with a fine.
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MW
MUDWEISER, WITH COMMENTS LIKE THAT YOU MUST HAVE BEEN DRINKING TO MUCH BUDWEISER.
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mudweiser

right on fellow--everyone esle is to blame but them--kind of like the katrinia bunch--now that i think of it- alot like them you know breaking in PRIVATE stores and homes wheeling out all the goodies--beer,wine,wiskey--invading peoples privacey--
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HOUNDDAWG
with comments like that you show you true I.Q. And you are probably the one dropping your dogs off on other peoples land. Or is that YOUR land because you and your dads friend bubba ran dogs there for a few years because no one leased it. But now that somebody leases the property they are on YOUR land. right? Some people just can't handle the truth.
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Remember What I Said
I made the statement yesterday in a post about going to the landowners and complaining about who they lease too. Here is a copy of what a man in North Carolina did about dog hunting on leased property that surrounded him. Take Notes..

Check out this article:
"... International Paper Company (IP) is continuing with their plans to close lands to dog hunting and has begun notifying hunt clubs of the changes. The new lease rules presently pertain to hunting deer with dogs.
IP Lease holders in Alabama, Georgia, South Carolina and North Carolina have been notified that hunting deer with dogs will no longer be allowed on its leases. Many to the lessors in North Carolina were surprised by the new lease terms and have taken issue with IP for making the changes, however IP evidently isn't concerned about the complaints from hunters.
"What we have done as a landowner, is make the decision that some of our lands are better suited to still-hunting for deer," said Jimmy Bulloch, IP manager of wildlife policy and programs. "Forestland that was once vast is now intermingled with homes. And we have seen patterns of complaints from our neighbors, and most of those complaints center around hunting deer with dogs. We understand the tradition of hunting deer with dogs, but we feel that (the restriction) is in the best interest of International Paper, our neighbors and the future of hunting."
The decision to ban dogging deer on certain IP land where there is the potential for user conflicts may have been forwarded by a lawsuit brought against IP in South Carolina that the paper company lost.
The 2002 lawsuit was brought by FOC Lawshe Partnership (EL Nettles, Sr. and Marian Nettles, of Lake City SC), owners of an 841-acre still-hunting plantation surrounded on three sides by IP land. The suit contended that because IP leased adjoining land to dog-hunting clubs, the timber company was liable for creating a nuisance with trespassing dogs.
Sidney T. Floyd, Circuit Court Judge ruled against IP in the suit. The company appealed, but the initial finding was affirmed by the South Carolina Court of Appeals. That legal action continues. Jim Noles, President of the NCBHA was quick to point out, "This is a classic case of hunters fighting amongst themselves and ruining the opportunity to have and practice hunting in a way we can all enjoy it. Hunters should learn from this incident; jealousy and greed will jeopardize decades of hard work protecting our rights."

Meanwhile, in April, IP sent a letter to many a clubs that lease its land notifying them of the dog-hunting ban. International Paper has informed many of the hunting clubs who hold leases in the coastal plain that using dogs to drive deer will no longer be allowed.
"It was not a decision made lightly", said Bullock, "Certainly, we have areas we feel as a landowner that are becoming more appropriate to certain types of hunting. We are not saying we are opposed to a type of hunting. In this situation, we looked at our land base and identified certain areas that were more suitable long term to still-hunting. We did not look at individual clubs. We didn't try to single out individual clubs. We looked at areas that fit those parameters, where we were seeing more and more complaints and issues raised."
"I don't want to sound like our clubs haven't been good ambassadors. By and large, they have," Bullock said. "We support hunting as an activity. We have a long tradition of supporting hunting. The decision was made as a landowner. Our local wildlife teams are working with any clubs to make this transition." We will keep everyone advised of the IP situation.

Our comments: So it appears that the courts have decided that neighboring land owners can press charges against landowners who allow dog hunting in which clubs do not control the dogs. If the landowners do not take action they can and will be held liable for allowing dog hunters (their dogs) which create a nuisance. We'll probably start to see lots of still hunting clubs starting to pressure their neighboring landowners with the threat of pressing charges in order to get then to better control their dog hunting clubs.
We all know that dog hunters say that they cannot control exactly where their dogs go, and that they (the dogs) can't read no trespassing signs, but apparently this will no longer hold up in a court of law, and now the burden will become more upon dog hunters to assure the dogs are controlled and contained.

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IP Dog Ban
CWB, I posted a message on this site last concerning what had happened in North Carolina with dog hunting. It is a given fact that if the conflicts continue with still/dog hunters, the dog hunters WILL loose out. Using the same old song that "a dog cannot read posted signs" will not work and a court has said so. Thanks for sharing all of the info.
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Respect
I will not be able to attend the meeting in Baton Rouge due to the fact that I am out of town with work. But I posted that letter for them to understand what I said in earlier post. The big paper companies that own land will not tolerate the neighbors raising hell about people leaving the paper company land and tresspassing and tearing up other peoples stuff. I have personally met with Weyerhauser Company Reps and voiced my concern and was assured that they have long lines of people waiting to lease land and they will not think twice about pulling a lease from a club that can not control its members. Like I said a few bad apples spoil the barrel for everyone. If you have people in your club that are out of control and you lease land the whole club coould lose out as a result. If you are bothering your neighbor the whole club loses. It all goes back to the word RESPECT respect your neighbors respect other peoples rights and property and we all can enjoy what we love to do that is deer hunt whether it is with dogs or without.
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Good Post CWB
The bottom line is LIABILITY. Land owners will side with what keeps them out of court and away from turmoil every time. Its pretty clear from reading pro-dog hunting posts in this forum that the majority of dog hunters could care less what their dogs do once they get turned loose. This kind of mentality will be coming to an end sooner than later.
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MUDWEISER
I PAY A HUNTING LEASE WITH PLENTY OF LAND, PLUS I HAVE PLENTY OF FAMILY LAND. BESIDES MY IQ PROBABLY IS A LOT HIGHER THAN YOURS, I AM A DOG HUNTER.
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Hounddawg
oh Mister hounddawg you are so smart. you have the highest I.Q. on this site. If you would have finished high school i would amuse you with some trivia. But get real. Is this a hunting and fishing forum? are do you want to turn this into an insult forum. you voiced you opinion. i did not cut you down. But, when i voice my opinion. you make false statements. It has been years since i drank a budweiser. Now quit cutting people down just to justify what you do wrong. Is that what you call it Family land? haha it is called something different everywhere you go. the last place i hunted the people trespassing said they thought it was State land. Hello, if it was state land it would be posted WMA. private property..keep you dogs off.....
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HELLO MUDWEISER
I KNOW THAT I MAY NOT HAVE THE HIGHEST I. Q. ON THE WEB SITE BUT I DO HAVE A DIPLOMA, AND A GOOD JOB, SORRY YOU CAN'T TAKE A JOKE, DO YOU HAVE A SENSE OF HUMOR? I DO HAVE FAMILY LAND BUT I DO NOT HUNT IT VERY OFTEN, BECAUSE IT IS MORE CONVIENT TO HUNT ON MY LEASE? THE BUNCH FROM THE OTHER SIDE(OUTLAWS) JUST ABOUT POACHED EVERYTHING THEIR ANYWAY.
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Re: deer hunting with dogs
Yes actually we can and do keep our dogs off property. We thousands of dollars for tracking training gps Garmin collars and equipment to make sure this doesn't happen. Been running dogs all my life and have everything under the book from guys like yourself that just don't like to hunt dogs are think it's hurting your stand. Etc etc. It's not. You just can't hunt. I do both and if you think it's easier to run digs I welcome you to join us. Hell I'll give you 10 dogs and see if u can kill one deer the entire small season that they give us or just welcome you to show u how the collars work and how we make them go where we want them to.
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Re: deer hunting with dogs
You just admitted to killing a dog . Big man. So tuff. Please come to the spillway with that same attitude.
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Re: deer hunting with dogs
You sound like a stand up guy. And such a great Hunter. Lmfao
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Re: deer hunting with dogs
Your the dumb one. The collars tell us where they are. I can block off 20 dogs easy. And call them back to me over 4 Mike's away from me
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Re: deer hunting with dogs
This is so true. If these db guys would just sit in there stand the dogs will move the deer right by them instead of just bitching about something they know nothing about. Normally the people that complain are not good hunters and couldn't shoot s running deer if they had a cannon. I myself hunt for meat not wracks.
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Re: deer hunting with dogs
I hope you touch a my collars. I bet you won't touch another. The colors send a signal when being tampered with and even when turned off they go in retrieval mode. So think twice buddy. Cause if they have tt15 collors they can still track them when turned off more that 100 yards away from the GPS tracker.
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