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BEWARE Louisiana Hunters (Non-Residents) hunting in Mississippi

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Last weekend I took a 180 pound 7 point on public land just south of Natchez, Ms. As I came out of the woods, a Federal Agent drove up and asked to see my Hunting License AND my driver's licence. After verifying that the $430 hunting license belonged to me he ran my driver's license for attachments. He returned with my license and inspected my deer asking what type of weapon I'd shot him with, I showed him my CVA 50 cal. He said the deer was really nice and asked where I was hunting?!? I pointed down a ridge and told him I was about 300 yards in the woods. With that he left...

Here's where it gets messed up!

This weekend I went back to the same area only to be visited in the woods about 8:30am. The same Federal Agent, and a second oner, announced their presence, one in green ONLY (NO Hunter's orange at all) carrying a mini-14 and a second agent armed with a camera w/an orange vest. They circled the area looking for corn and asked, VERY DIRECTLY, did I kill my 7 point over corn? I told them where I shot the deer the week before, but they would'nt belive me asking me over and over to show them where the corn was. Next, he informed me that if I had killed the deer over corn and transported it back across state lines that I would have committed a felony and that he could'nt help me (a threat). I assured him that I was in the spot that I hunted the previous week. They found an indication of a camp fire near by and asked if I started a fire because I was cold. I told them that I saw the camp fire, but it appeared to be weeks old. They didn't believe that either and implied that I may have started the fire. How insane?!? I was SO upset after this encounter, at 8:30 in the morning, that I left the woods and left the area!

There's an initiative to find corn, no matter what the circumstances, and issue citations. I understand these citations range from $200 to over $600. These agents ruined my hunt, issued NO citation, treated me like a hardened criminal before I had had enough and just left.

What the heck is Mississippi coming to? Are the agents being directed to harass hunters to generate revenue OR are they resident agents driving hunters out of the woods after the hunters have bought and paid for the privelidge of hunting this country?!?
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   JB
This is gonna sound harsh and believe me when I say I'm really not trying to sound like an jerk but you have two options:
1. Stop hunting in Mississippi or,
2. Deal with it

I'm not sticking up for the Agents, there is no need for them to act that way. They hold the upper hand, the best you can do is spend 3 weeks on the phone trying to speak to a Supervisor just for that Supervisor to fake concern and forget you called once he hangs up.

The best thing is to hit the state in the pocketbook. If the sale of NR Licenses gets cut in half, or more, THE STATE will make sure that cash cow is left alone.
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Im surprised they didnt put corn out themselves and accuse you of hunting over it.
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   alspanky
There have been quite a few reports similar to yours. Best thing the La hunters can do is stop hunting Mississippi.......You do realize that inbreeding is a big problem in Ms
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MS folks don't like LA folks taking 'their' deer, Just don't hunt MS. anymore.
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   krazykarl
It is just the way it is. Mississippi just doesn't like LA. Maybe it has something to do with what LSU does to their football teams every year. I guess if you don't want to hunt LA, go to Texas. The people are nicer there. lol
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   HBBOPL
FOR ANYBODY SAYING THATS MS DEER THATS BULL OUR TAX DOLLORS PAY FOR THAT AND LIKE YOU SAY THEY WHERE PROBLEY DUMPING CORN AND HUNTING IT THERE SELF I WOULD HAVE TO BELIVE THAT ANY DAY.
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   stancel
I got harassed by a LA Wildlife Official a couple years ago while hog hunting on the Pearl River (on the WMA). He asked me half a dozen times if I was baiting the area. I told him no twice, then just refused to answer the question anymore. He said they had problems with baiting in the area. It was bull. I was in some random spot, walked in, found a tree and got in a climber. He just saw me and decided to be an jerk. No big deal. I just go deeper into the swamp, and further into the woods now. Problem solved.
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This treatment has been going on for years. I experienced it for years, hunted there from 78 to 93. You shouldn't stop hunting in Mississippi but a message needs to be sent to the entire state. You must hit them where it hurts, in the bank account. An organized one year boycott needs to be planned for next hunting season. If Louisiana folks would stand together and have a good boycott turnout those Mississippi folks would be over here knocking on your door when there economy falls apart. You have the power.
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Sounds like Ricky Long may be in your area thats the way we got treated when he was down around Gloster area. He harrassed us all the time. You will be fine if you abide by the laws just always smile. I had them come by my camp and tell why I
shot the Doe behind the camp in the bottom. I told them if there is a dead doe there they can go bury her because we don't outlaw here. Remember if you are hunting WMA'a always come out the woods with gun unloaded. Have a great season. Good luck
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   jls
Thats Why i Hunt in Louisiana Every1 Makes there own Rules as they go along Sowy they Hassled ya
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   jls
^5 JB
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I am so glad that all of the louisiana hunters come to mississippi to hunt and spend some money so that all of us backwooded, inbred, outlawing, poaching, trespassing mississippi people wont have our economy collapse. You can think what you want to, but believe me the great people of Mississippi will be just fine without you. Boycott, quit spending money here, quit buying license, or what ever else you want to do. You act like you are the only ones that ever get checked by a game warden, have something stolen, or deal with poachers. It is not just in Mississippi, you have it in LA also. Check thru the 'hunting in LA' section. Quit complaining about everything, do your thing, and realize that everything and everywhere has positive points and negative points. Rememer also, that just because you spend a little money on a girl don't mean that you can treat her like a whore.
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Also, checking your hunting license AND drivers license is procedure. In the requlations, it say you must carry both on your person while hunting. This is so they can verify that the license belong to you.
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   Bobby B
Ok. Everyone knows what opinions are like and here goes mine. I work closely with agents through work and play and I can tell you this. If you think their jobs are easy in any way, go and try it for a month. That doesn't give them a reason for being rude, disrespectful, threatening and so forth, but they work very long hours and are extremely understaffed. I have been harassed in the woods of both LA and MS and I can tell you this, if you handle yourself with professionalism and respect, they will not continue to harass you. But I have also seen on public lands where someone goes into a new place that someone has been hunting for a long time and they assume it is theirs so they place bait there and call the agents when they catch you the lawful citizen hunter there hunting their so called spot and I can promise you at that point, you may as well take your lumps. If you want to hunt MS hunt it, if you want to hunt LA then by all means hunt it, but if you are in LA with MS tags are vice versa you will be stopped, questioned and that is just because they have a job to do and there is a bunch of paperwork involved with non-resident hunting and they want to assure that everyone is legal, resident and non-resident. Non-resident vehicles are just an easier way of spotting potential violators. Can't we all just get along.
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   Samarai
When I am stopped by officials, I make sure I have all of my paperwork together and ready to hand over to them before they even ask. I address them with a yes 'sir' or 'mam' depending on the agent. I let them ask the question and give them direct answers. I don't engage in any small talk unless the agent initiates it. If you have an out of state license, just expect a little more scrutiny. Never have had a problem.
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Guy's about 12 years ago we purchsed land in Mississippi. It wasn't an easy transition, but it can be done. We were checked reagular at first, but honestly i havent seen an agent in the past 6 years. I no longer spend any money in Mississippi by choice. Weather or not it hurts there econmy or not doesnt mater to me. It is about self satisfaction on a rediculus license price. We have met some good people, and some not so good. We tried being friendly to all, but then it came down to i will never run for public office there, so i could care less if they like me or not. I will respect you at first, but you try to steal from me, or screw me, and all bets are off. If you choose to hunt there be prepared when you first start to have a few issue. In the end it was no more than i put up with here where i live with the local trash. Everyone talks about boy cot for hunting, that will do nothing. You want to do something, stop pissing your money away in a casino. Thats where they really make there money as far as outsiders go.
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I hate it when people start threads and dont tell the whole story.......Why didnt you tell the forum about you setting up your friend. Or why didnt you tell the people that your buddy, that you told what stand to hunt, had corn and your buddy got a ticket. SHame that the guy that you set up is a friend of mine and he told a different story.
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The Federal Game Warden will run you when checking you to see if you have any warrants.This is in all states even Louisiana. They don't have to wear hunters orange when checking you in the woods. You should know what you are shooting at and it could just have well been a small game hunter and they don't have to wear it. I never had any trouble from Ricky Long when I hunted in Mississippi when he was worked Bude,Ms area. He was allways was friendly. They may have been having trouble in that area with some one using bait in your area. These guy have a hard job and with out them we would have no game with all the outlawing that would be going on. Your additude with them will go along way with them when being checked and most really good people and some do have additude. I think if you are not doing any thing wrong just hunt and they will stop checking you. They have a job to do just like anyone and it is just part of hunting. Police will check you and they are the police of the woods. The Federal Game Warden is stricter than State Game Wardens. If you feel like it is just harrassment call and report them but wait and see if they keep checking you. I am not saying you were doing any thing wrong and they might not ever check you again but they do check hunter in the woods and it is just part of hunting. I just stopped hunting Mississippi a couple years ago because I leased land near my home. I never had any trouble with local where I hunted and even leased a spot for my camp from a man from Mississippi and every one even the store owner were great folks.
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All ABUSE POWER beyond the constitution.

'They have a hard job' is not a viable excuse in my book to allow the abuse of power or a justifiable excuse for be unprofessional or rude.

I dont pity the fellas. Hard job? Quit.

Dont like MS? Dont hunt there.

Violate game rules? You pay the price. BUT IN ALL ACCOUNTS, ALL PARTIES SHOULD BE HELD ACCOUNTABLE FOR THEIR ACTIONS. Period.

Not a big fan of 'its not my fault' culture of this country.

I am a big fan of personal liberty and self responsibility.
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   teetodd
I also feel like GONHUNTING,I own land and still dont feel welcome! Its great hunting experience on my land but not when hunting the National Forest near my camp. I will never park my truck on the roads cause of the LA plate. Heard of peoples tires being cut. I am thinking of getting a MS drivers lic and plates since there is a home with address on land in my name.any thoughts?
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   deerman24
I hunt in Miss, ALA, and La. and have been for 50 years. Many incounters with agents. I know we need them of this i have no dought. I find that the older agents that stay around are good, do not harrass and are respectful and it doesn't change from state to state. I find that some of the young agents try to over do their job or maybe they don't know what their job really is. They don't respcet the people that pay their salaries which is the hunter. Do not complain to their superiors as some of their superiors have the same intel. Some advise is to always follow the law be respectful and maybe some of these young agents will mature.
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This coming from a 10 year veteran agent, me- I would have told him to go f himself and to quit f in up my hunting. He was fishing. An if it was a certain fed agt whom U wouldn;t have known but I would, I would have given him a pot calling kettle black speech. Anytime they have something on you, they are not going to ask baited questions and urge U to confess. Do Not engage in answering the corn questions. If you did indeed know about corn, well then you deserve to get harassed and busted, BUT if you did not engage in any of that, don't engage any answers. Walk away. Offer to let them see license, firearm, whatever and after just walk away. When they threaten you keep walking. They are fishing and calling your bluff. State troopers are nortorious for trying to stump you in describing traffic accident events. They love to try to tell you what you said exactly 10 minutes ago and to try to make it look like you are contradicting your story. It is a confusion game. That is exactly what those agents were doing to you. Tell them to go F off.
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   Jasper
Was ol Nathan one of em?
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i pulled out mf frount teeth and growing my hair out and have my sister with me at all times! they will thing im 100% mississippi!
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Thanks to everyone who commented. I read every comment, thought about what you wrote, thought about my experiences hunting in Mississippi for the past twenty five years and have decided enough is enough!?!
What I'm looking for in deer hunting is first stress relief from my job, the fast pace of current society and the day-to-day grind. Secondly, I simply want to go to the country either by myself, with family or with FRIENDS to disappear into a quiet, much slower pace with little to no stress. Finally, I love the thrill of seeing deer and taking one now and then.
The area I've been hunting in Mississippi, for a very long time, has drastically changed leaving very few of those things I'm looking as a whole. I'm not leaving Mississippi to hurt their economy or their local population, most of those folks are GOOD, FRIENDLY, PEOPLE just trying to live and raise families.

I've decided to STOP HUNTING MISSISSIPPI, end my lease and not buy another $430 Non-Resident license...

Good Luck and good hunting to you all
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   Hopedale
Deerhunter-0817,

It really sounds like these folks acted unprofessional.

While I can respect your decision, I'll ask you to step up and take action.

Contact your US Congressman. Their office can get involved, and have someone looking at these two Agents.

The bottom line is these guys are in a public trust, and need to be professional at all times.
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Maybe the agents were like the one's on the Kistachie Natl Forest, who violate people's hunitng rights and lie in court. Did you get a ticket/warning/etc? Were you by yourself, did you have a witness? I have a buddy with a briefcase who can help you if you have a ticket.....
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Guys, I've been hunting Mississippi now for 18 years and I never had a problem with the wildlife agents. Sorry to hear some of ya'll are experiencing this type of treatment. I hope things get better for ya'll, good luck with the rest of the season.
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   cmacks
Jasper, I know this Nathan you speak of south of Natchez. Nice enough guy, thick enough glasses. I met him one afternoon talked with him for at least an hour. Told him I'd be back in the morning to hunt. He pulls me over and obviously had no idea he had met me the previous afternoon. I show him my DL and hunting license and go hunting. After the hunt, 2 hours later, he pulls me over again asking for the same stuff. I thought he was kidding. He was not.
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