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Well, deer season is about over. If you're in a club with a lease tell us how your club did.

Give the LOCATION BY PARISH and the club's experience for this year as compared to previous years - BETTER THAN NORMAL, ABOUT NORMAL, WORSE THAN NORMAL, or WORST EVER.
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Really Bad
Our club in St. Helena Parish - worst season ever.
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deer
Well word from east carroll parish is hard to find a deer track. South ouachita parish, north winn, jackson, caldwell, taxidermist that usualy gets several hundred has less than 50. Tensas taxidermist usualy has over 300, less than 100. The 2,000 acres bordering us only killed 3 bucks and 6 does. The last 3 years have been steady worse each year.
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Not horrible
My small lease about 100 acres we killed 6 which is great for this place. They average 1or 2 a year but r mainly duck hunters. My bigger place which is about 2000 acres killed 74 as of last Thursday. Usually kill 90-100 a year so a little down. By the way the bigger place is bow only and has a ton of members. Both are in West Feliciana.
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Report
HORRIBLE!!!!!! My lease is in Grosse Tete. We normally kill 15-17 bucks and that many does also. This year????? 3 bucks and 5 does. Some of our members have been there 40-50 years and have said that this was the worst year they've ever seen. Only thing we can think of is too many acorns. Our trees are still loaded with acorns. It wasn't just the red oaks or pin oaks either, it was all oak trees. You had to be careful walking around, there were so many acorns you could roll an ankle. Might actually help our squirrel population that was oblitirated during Gustav.
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A big zero
We never fird a shot on 300 acres in Livingston Parish. we normally get a couple nice bucks and take a doe or 2 nothing this year.
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Deer Report
I forgot where I read this, maybe QDMA magazine but Louisiana's fawn recruitment has been on a steady decline over the past few years, as is the vast majority of states.
I hate to ask this but I wonder if there is any link between more pople letting deer grow and people seeing fewer deer? Seems that when the majority of clubs were 'brown it's down' there were deer behind every tree. Now that most clubs are managing for deer, the numbers are decreasing. I'm sure its just coincidence though. The pressure on the deer herd has really gone up the last 20 years.
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Hmmmm.....
The problem as I see it..... I agree that there has been a steady decline in deer harvest per attempts in the last few years (which is a goal that LDWF was trying to get to with the current law that is in place) and that is either sex can be harvested from day one to the last day of the season with some areas of the state starting mid September and going all the way to mid February in some. I see a very big problem with this strategy... and some may agree or disagree. But I certainly have seen a drastic decrease in the deer population where I hunt in St Helena (where I normally take on average 2-3 bucks and a doe every year). My reasoning behind this is because I am a firm believer that a doe should not be taken after about the 2nd week in December.... mainly because in most parts of the state she has already been bred or is very close to being bred. So that leaves about 6-8 weeks a year where does are being harvested that have already been bred. When does are killed late like that it is not just one deer taken out of the herd it's 2 possibly 3 or 4. I live on a main highway in St Helena and every Saturday and Sunday morning I see on average 6-10 deer going down the road loaded on fourwheelers 90% being does and I mean all the way to the end like yesterday for St. Helena. In about a ten square mile area I have gotten pictures of prob 15-20 bucks and I bet I don't have but about 5 or 6 does total in the 4-5 different spots that I hunt. Where it used to be about 1 to 1. Now you take 5 bucks in 1 area that are trying to breed one or two does in a couple hundred acre block what do you think will happen??? The bucks are gonna go find them a doe elswhere... at night! Because these deer have been hunted from the time the suck milk until they die. I see this being a problem with no current solution until we start letting some of these does live and re-generate the population.... Just my 2 cents
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Deer
Never thought of it that way. I couldn't agree with you more. We have the same problem in Grosse Tete. We have more bucks on our cameras then does. I was all for the going away of the doe days but would support their comeback.
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deer
About 4or5 times a week i travel to my camp by two routes. One is thru hunting club land, beouf wma, big lake wma, and buckhorn wma. The other is thru russell sage, big lake, and buckhorn wmas. This is usually at night, so u get a pretty good look at whats out there. Also i stop at every store along these routes thru the season to see how its going. I almost never see deer on the road and i've yet to find someone that has too many deer. Having said this, this is not a ldwf problem, they do a great job under tough circumstances. They should be able to set long, liberal saesons, its up to us who pull the trigger to say how many deer we want to see.
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Beauregard Parish
Areas that I hunt have seen a population explosion in the last 3-5 years. I can take wife and kids and still see half dozen deer per hunt. I sat only one time all season and did not see a deer. All the places and areas around where I hunt have been leased and managed for 5-10 year minimum.
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St. Landry, East Feliciana
Good thread topic...
In St. Landry About Average..... We typically kill the amount we killed this year but it was less than last year. The difference is we have much more skilled hunters in the club this year so the deer killed were a much more difficult hunt. I personally saw lots of deer early this last month has been painful. They aren't using the feed much still...Plenty of acorns. I am still finding fresh dropped acorns

East Feliciana big goose egg, few deer and they stayed nocturnal and followed zero routine week to week for two weeks they just plain ol' disappeared. Never hit the feeders barely hit the plots. Word in the area is THE WORSE SEASON EVER
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Down
Hunt St Mary Parish and this was a really down year. Our deer numbers have been staidly declining since we went to the deer tag system. This system lets you shot does everyday where before you could only shot does on selected days. Not sure when it will sink in but without does there are no baby deer. Hope something is done soon!
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to Southern Swamp
I 110% agree with you. I see it the same exact way. If I'm a 21 year old single male and looking for a lady friend, I'm not going to the bar room with 1 or 2 females and theres already 3-4 guys there. I'm going to the one with lot more females to increase my chances to pick up on a lady friend. I believe Deer Hunting is not 'Rocket Science.' No offense to any biologist who read, but like SOUTHERN SWAMP said it Perfect.
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Horrible
saw 2 does--I do not shoot mama deer or babies and i saw one good buck that was running fast as he could from 2 labrador retrievers .
Deer herd is way down in Tangipahoa and St Helena.
1 .Too many coyotes and bobcats killing fawns. Look up the University of Georgia predator study on deer--where predators were killed on a 2000 acre area 77% of the does raised fawns where no predator control was in place on another 2000 acre tract 17% raised fawns--thats a BIG DIFFERENCE
2. Too many does killed-period--from early season leaving nursing fawns with no mama milk and too many pregnant does killed later.
LDWF is about creating 'hunter opportunities'-bow season/ primative weapon season/ either sex all year with a 6 deer limit( too many )--all so they sell licenses. I do not believe they are managing for the good of the herd --but for more license sales to create those opportunities and to make money.
they are strapped for money because all their funding is self generated from licenses and none comes from sales taxes on hunting and fishing gear and ammo and such NONE COMES FROM THE GENERAL FUND-no money from there. LDWF NEEDS MONEY AND I THINK LAWS SHOULD BE CHANGED TO PROPERLY FUND THE AGENCY.Where our purchases were taxed a little to fund them and some from the general fund also -we all pay state income taxes etc . MY 2 cents from a 60 year old with a biology degree and a little life experience that his given it much thought. If anyone has a better educated better thought out statement Im listening and always eager to learn new ideas and new data .
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Deer
In the Swamps we had a slow year I would say the warm winter and plenty feed all season they just stayed put.
In Miss I saw deer almost every morning I hunted they had plenty acorns I just moved alot until I figured out a few bucks. Alot of problems is all the clear cuts and pine thickets they have made in the last 10 years deer have no reason to come out until dark. I went in the thicket this past friday afternoon and saw 2 bucks moving in there right at dark I shot the 6 point. Still plenty Doe, they have just been shot at so much the last few years they don't move until after dark now to. I probally saw between 45 to 50 deer this year hunting public land no green fields just hard hunting. THICKETS and more thickets. You want a deer go look for them they are there. I did shoot 2 coyotes the last 2 weekends.
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Turkeyhunter got it
I also hunt in St. Helena, and suprisingly I had a great year, saw more deer this year than the last 3 combined. But the population is way down and that is three reasons 1) the crossbows/primitive weapons, 2) coyotes, 3) too many doe days
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Easy to burn a witch
I can't argue against the points being made as I am seeing similar results where I hunt if I trust only the cameras. Here is what I do know, older does wise up much like the bucks, they know how to stay put until dark. I think it's easy to say DMAP is not working on a bad year. They've been doing studies and learning from the deer numbers and stats we are required to report. After going through such trouble to restock deer in the state back to where we can hunt them, I assure you if does with milk and mortality rate looked bad statistically they wouldn't proceed. I will say I'm seeing more fawns/yearlings than I've ever seen this year. Also I had plenty hogs on camera until the acorns and percimmons started falling, haven't seen them since. Thats as big a phenomenon as the deer disappearing to me. With a mild winter things are beginning to green out early, having such a diverse diet why does a deer need to remove itself from the thickets? I think it's easy to blame a bad year on many things, record flood, bumper acorn crop, lets talk next year...or show me your stats proving otherwise.
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One more thing
One more thing I noticed the same thing happen on two properties one in East Feliciana the other in St Landry, this summer when I was trapping hogs on the two properties they all were getting trapped during the same time frame. When the hogs disappeared on one property they did from the other as well. Just another oddity this year to think about... Very different terrains Very far apart, very similar results.
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Deer Numbers
Deer numbers are going to vary hunting lease to hunting lease. As I saw stated earlier in one of the articles management has alot to do with who is behind the trigger. If you are shooting Louisiana law with limits given I can tell you in a matter of three years on a 200 acre tract you will deplete the deer population by as much as 72% this is a study that was performed by Mississippi State University. The Louisiana law is very forgiving and there is no deer managment implemented into daily bag limits, antler restrictions, and doe harvest days. As with myself I pay the out of state license where there is an antler restriction as the state law and we harvest non bearing does only and I can see as many as 12-15 deer per hunt. We plant year round food plots and have as many as 10 cameras that run year round. Louisiana will never catch up with some of the surrounding states as far as producing trophy whitetails on properties that are not independently managed by landowners. Louisiana is about selling hunting license and the if its brown its down philosphy and if this is not true then they would have adopted an antler restriction as Mississippi did 15 years ago to protect yearling and 1 1/2 year old bucks. Also that is one of the major problems with doe harvest just because the law says you can shoot a doe everyday from Oct 1 to Jan 31 it would be best if you did not practice that rule. Think about it how many laws are passed in the senate house and congress that really do not benefit anyone but the lawmaker themselves. Padding the pockets.
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something to think about
the club we hunt is in sw miss and overall we had an average year as far as #'s go. i ended the season w/ a really nice 12 pt, 2 large does and missed 2 more bucks, a 9 pt and an 11 pt. my daughter also killed a nice doe. my nephew shot a nice 6 pt, his brother missed a smaller 6 pt. severl spikes, 4 pts and does were passed on throughout the season by myself and family members. we've been in this club now going on about 5 yrs and what surprised me was how many bucks we killed this year were at or around 200 lbs. not only that, but how many deer were killed by mid dec. normally by the 3rd week in dec till about the 2nd week in jan is when it seems our rut is in high gear and most bucks are seen and/or killed. this year was differant in the fact a lot of deer were being seen and shot in the 1st half of the season. these last 2 weeks it really tappered off and not much has been seen at all. and i've got to say, if i would have seen a doe this last weekend i would have shot it. we eat a lot of venison in my household and rarely does it make it thru to the end of the summer in my freezer. we are not a 'brown its down' club, we are miss state law + 6 pts or better. we have about 70 members in the club and about 1/2 of them usually won't shoot does.
after reading all the other posts, here's something to think about. as far as i can remember hunting mississippi, a hunter could shoot a doe any day of the season. I've hunted, all over sw miss for about the last 16 yrs and don't ever remember there being a shortage of does. i'm no biologist, but to those who are opposed to shooting does late in the season b/c they might have been bred already, think about this. if that same doe was shot earlier in the season, which you would be ok with, she would have never gotten bred in the 1st place. so what's the differance? just my 2 cents.
hopefully next year will be better year for all those who had bad ones this year.

LC
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Excellent season!
Man do I feel lucky reading these comments. We had 5 adults and 7 school aged kids hunting on about 600 acres outside of Canton, Miss and we killed 12 does and 13 bucks. One buck was a spike(kid's first buck) but all other bucks were 7pts or better and at least 15 inches wide. We try to shoot deer with good mass and body size. I saw deer on 27 out of 30 hunts and lost count of the number of does,spikes,4pts,6pts, and pencil racked 8pts I saw. WE are lucky to have bordering clubs with similiar standards and a lot of agriculture and mature hardwood around us. We are blessed to have this lease and lucky that we don't have any hogs to contend with. I definately believe that bobcats and coyotes are a giant problem and just can't understand why more people don't shoot them on sight. We've shot 5 bocats and 3 coyotes this year so trying to do our part. We stopped shooting does after Thanksgiving until the middle of January to allow does and bucks to feel safe to come out into fields. This worked great and only 2 of our bucks were killed in the woods, the rest were killed in fields.
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State Rules?
I'm not so sure the State rules are the problem.

How many clubs follow State rules? I know ours does not. And our neighbors do not. We pass on bucks under five points and limit each member to only one five or six pointer, and most of our members won't shoot a 5 or 6 unless it's clearly an older deer that's not likely to get better. Other bucks must be at least seven points. We also limit our doe kill to two per member and not all members take two.

We've had this lease since 1998 and have taken pretty much the same number of animals each year with no diminishment of the population over that 14 year period. So why do we suddenly seem to have significantly fewer deer this year?
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why?
The terrible flood during fawning season in '09, the terrible drought we've had for the last 2 yrs. and are still in that limits summer browse, doe day every single day the last 5 yrs. have created the perfect storm for our herd. Also the balanceing of the herd toward a 1to1 horatio will cause less secondary rut activity, and this has been very apparent the last 3 yrs. I saw this coming this year and shot our deer early. Lucky we did because the breakout some predicted to occur in late jan. in tensas and thiselwaite never happened. This is a predictable result of a balanced ratio. Just more proof that a drawn out rut is caused by high doe to buck ratios, not by flooding. Like it was said its not rocket science, if u hunt all deer equally, they will all be wild equally. Also the totaly uneven distribution of deer, overrun in some areas and scarce in others proves herd dispersal is a myth.
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St Mary Parish
Between brother in law and myself, we took 6 on our bow hunting only lease and a couple trips down in the wax. 4 bucks and 2 does, with one of the bucks being a really nice 8 pt. I also missed a big 8 and a really nice 9 with my bow. We saw an average amount of deer at the bow lease - which is probably seeing deer 2 out of 3 trips. The grass in the wax was really really high, probably helped by the high river level, and I'm sure there were a lot of deer that passed by within a hundred yards that we simply couldn't see. And I have to agree with a couple of others, what is the difference between shooting a doe at the beginning of the year and shooting one after she has been bred? Either way, she isn't having a fawn the next year.
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This years report
Hey Huck we're in Mississippi just outside Brookhaven. It was a very slow season for the box stand food plot hunters, but working the cutovers and acorns were very productive for me. We have 3 members and took around 10 deer and 3 hogs. Half bucks and half does and a couple real good bucks and had another real good buck missed. This is about 2 shy of normal. On another note I think part of the story on your lease is it looks like and sounds like pines have drown out all browse. I've been hunting similar ground as you for 25 years and once pine trees pass that 9 or 10 year mark they become stagnant for feeding deer and not all that attractive to deer for bedding because food is not close by. Couple loss of browse and great bedding area compounded by abundant acorns and the food plot hunters really struggled and acorns were so abundant it was hard to zone in on the perfect spot. I found travel trails between acorns and bedding were the ticket time and time again along with the preferred oak trees raining acorns right adjacent to cutovers. If ya'll can get those pines thinned it would be much better for deer but you will have a tough first year for deer but great for turkeys then it will flip flop, good for deer and bad for turkeys as the woods get very thick. The ideal situation would be to thin in increments so the browse last more years. Once thinned the good browse only last about 4 or 5 years.
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Alabama hunter but same issue
I currently (and for several years) have been hunting near Butler Alabama. We have a 16 man club that hunts nearly 3000 acres of land. On normal years we average 40-60 deer, and that's picking through what we decide to shoot (well most of us). But this year we have had the same issue as you all. Our kill total this year was a mere 27. On top of that, we only killed 4 bucks and 10 does prior to January 15th (at which point the pre-rut started and full rut started somewhere around the 24th). We killed the bulk of our deer after that day and only 3 of them were does.

I could sit and give you a lot of statistics but i honestly think the bad season had more to do with the warm weather and very strange weather conditions (drought then rain, high windsm etc) than anything else. I was at the camp for the last week and i noticed that after last thursday's rain, it took all the way until monday for the bucks to begin checking scrapes and rubs again, which seems like an overly long time period to me? Either way it was not a bumper year but i look forward to next season having a better retainage crop of young deer.

Also, we had a banner year for coyote problems, as i personally shot 2 and saw over 30 in the last 2 days of the season.

my $.02
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Terrible
2 years ago we took on some new members and that was the end of our deer killing. These guys drive and walk the lease constantly, checking cameras, dumping corn and I don't know what. Before they came I would 'buck out' every year before the second split; now when you pay your dues just realize you have officially wasted your money. The deer you want to kill are underground and nocturnal, you see spikes and yearlings during day. Sad how a couple of people that don't know how to deer hunt can ruin it for everybody.
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coyotes
the following is a portion of what one guy wrote up on the study in Georgia concerning coyotes.
Times have changed.

Deer management is no longer only about keeping them in check and an afterthought. The explosive growth of groups like the Quality Deer Management Association is proof.

In fact, it’s not a stretch to say that in places, deer are more valuable financially, emotionally and recreationally than the domestic stock they share ground with.

Wagner unknowingly laid the groundwork for modern coyote/deer studies by challenging early studies (1970, 1976) that he said concluded, “Predation and coyotes came to be considered by many wildlife biologists a relatively minor influence on big-game populations.”

According to Wagner, later studies more accurately described the relationship between coyotes, deer and antelope.

“Coyote predation is a major source of fawn mortality, especially in summer when the fawns are quite young,” he said. “The percentage of fawns killed has variously been reported to average 25 percent in a Wyoming study area to 37 percent in an Oregon study.”

He additionally noted that several other studies revealed the number of fawns per 100 does increased after intensive coyote control.

None of this was as important in 1988 as it is today, but to cite the information was prophetic.

Modern studies not only confirm Wagner’s conclusions, they also paint an even bleaker picture for the well being of deer forced to cohabitate with our growing coyote population.

QDMA’s 2010 Whitetail Report revealed several of those studies.

Cory VanGilder, University of Georgia, conducted a study along with Drs. Grant Woods and Karl Miller. They studied the effects of intense predator removal on whitetail deer recruitment in northeast Alabama.

They removed 22 coyotes and 10 bobcats from February through July 2007 on a 2000-acre study site. This reduced the predator abundance indices to nearly zero immediately prior to the fawning season. The result was drastically increased fawn survival from 193 to 256 percent.

University of Georgia student, Bret Howze conducted an even more ambitious study along with Drs. Robert Warren and Karl Miller of predation and whitetail deer recruitment in southwest Georgia.

Their study identified two study areas. One 11,000-acre block had 23 coyotes and 3 bobcats removed between January and August 2008. A second 700-acre block was used for a control area and no predators were removed.

They revealed that 2 fawns were recruited for every 3 does in the predator removal zone, while it took over 28 does to recruit the same number of fawns in the zone where predators weren’t removed.

Additional studies support the conclusions of both Wagner and recent QDMA studies, but what, if anything, should deer mangers and hunters do with the information?
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turkeyhunter
I totally agree, what can we do? Short of having a way to kill them in large numbers. I also must say 1 thing, of the 30+ coyotes i saw the last 2 days, 2 packs of them (each pack consisting of 10-15 yotes) i witnessed chasing full grown deer. In the first instances they were chasing a fairly large buck (over 200lbs and very decent rack), and the second instance they were chasing 2 fully mature does (i shot one of the yotes in this pack). In years prior i have never really heard of coyotes chasing full grown deer. I they sometimes will but not often, definitely not often enough to see it twice in 2 days.......
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Caldwell/Winn very poor
WE have a older established lease in Caldwell bordering Winn Parish. Our club was hit with heavy timber harvesting over the summer and fall. This all but ruined our deer season.We saw lots deer on camera and a member with ajoining private land seemed to have a normal or above normal population. Timber harvesting along with many factors are affecting our kill ratio state wide, couple this with above average warm dry weather and it was just a perfect storm for below normal deer kills, for us any way. In my opinion we do not need to jump in to any far reaching changes state wide yet. Deer along with other animals and fish run in cycles, some years your up some your down.
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Rutting?
Just checked a camera in east feliciana looks like some chasing is starting. Got a video of a doe crossing a fence line this morning 2/2/12, 5sec behind her a 6pt... a minute behind them a 5pt. We never seemed to see a 2nd rut this year, now I'm wondering, one hot doe or the sign of something bigger?
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management fraud
deer management is nothing more than an attempt to sell more licenses. killing off does is a big problem as can be seen in the last couple years. I hunt in miss ala and la. I,ve noticed that the numbers of deer is on a steady decline. lets stop killing all the does and allow the numbers to rise.
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Sabine Parish
We run a 6500 acre lease with 45 members in Sabine Parish. Most had good pics, but kill ratio 'way down' this year. What I did notice on 9 cameras, appeared to be same deer, same bucks, same does with yearlings. I'm not talking huge numbers of deer on each cam. But did notice average weight of bucks taken were much larger than past years. Also pics of bucks and does were about equal in number, which means I suspect ratio about same. We also allow only 2 bucks, 4 total deer per member. 2 of our 9 stands had herd of hogs that stayed almost all year. Of course, did have pics of yotes & bobcats, not many. Son, son-n-law, myself also bow hunt Illinois public lands, always kill our deer, but do not see numbers as we first did 12 years ago. I suspect yotes killing fawns there, always plenty of yotes where we hunt, which means, you better find deer before dark or yotes got it.
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ilovedeer
I agree. I have also seen a steady decline in my deer herd over the past 6 years and I credit it to mass amounts of does being harvested. If a person has to shoot a doe thats fine but to slaughter them by the hundreds in the name of management when your herd is fat and healthy is stupid. I dont know why the ldwf insist on this maybe their is a bigger driving force like insurance companies or revnue for the department itself. I do know this if we aren't seeing deer now keep shooting does and it will just get worst. Wake up hunters you know your land and leases better than any bioligist.
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Agree
I LOVE DEER--I agree no herd can keep up with a 3 doe limit and coyotes and bobcats.
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Concordia
Last year and this year - terrible... Probably a tie between the two as the worst years ever since we started hunting our area n the60s. Concordia parish

I think it's pretty simple.... Doe day from start to finish, bow hunting technology is advancing at a great rate so the harvest is up, crossbows are legal for everyone now, primitive weapon is now scoped rifles (i can hit a pie plate at 200 yards with mine, REALLY primitive).

Simple - more legal days to takegamewith more advanced technology = a few boom years with big results and long term terrible results.

I'd like to see no doe days in Concordia parish for the next 3 years, real muzzle loader season, and limiting doe bow kill season to a 6 or 8 week period. No doe kills past thanksgiving day.
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ilovedeer
I hunt in the Morganza spillway. There is a big hunting club around me. The big club is owned by local people who under the advice of the LDWF have all but shot out the deer. This year our season ended early and we were restricted on doe harvest. Dont get me wrong I like this but the reasoning behind it is what I cant draw a beed on. The LDWF says the deer population was hurt do to the opening of the Morganza spillway. If they are worried about the deer population why do they continue to urge this club to shoot one hundred does a year. On top of this the LDWF extended the big clubs season 3 weeks. Thats right they can rifle hunt and shoot does until the end of febuary. I asked one of the club members why was this done. He said it was because the club was DMAP and they paid extra. So I guess the LDWF is selling deer now. Please hunters out there wake up dont buy into this slaughtering of does. Shoot a few, but mass killing of does will not give you more and bigger bucks. If you want trophy bucks then shoot trophy bucks, if you want nice bucks then shoot nice bucks. I know deer move alot at night but camera's dont lie and deer do leave tracks. I am not seeing much of either anymore.
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Club Report
Livingston dog hunting club. Worse season in a while. Usually about 30-45 bucks, no does. Can't blame acorns and weather for lack of deer herd when hunting bucks only with dogs only on weekends. If there are deer on property the dogs will get them moving Just don't have as many deer last few seasons. Too many does being killed on club borders. This 3 does bag limit just allows does to be killed every day. One neighbor and his two 'children' killed 6 does and three fawns, all legal deer, no bucks. People line up on our border and bang away every day. Deer population on decline because of all the does being killed around us and WL&F in there wisdon want to allow 4 does? Time for hunters to say enough of thie mis-management.
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Deer report
I hunt in Louisiana a decent bit but my regular club is in southeast Mississippi due to more opportunities. Our deer herd is really starting to feel the pain of endless deer slaughtering. When I first started hunting it was common to see 2 to 8 deer per hunt yet the deer were healthy and if they made it to 3 or 4 years old they were worthy of making it on the wall. You had only one designated doe weekend with rifle and two weeks of real blackpowder with hammer guns and smoking powder and boy was it fun and you saw alot of deer. I don't have to kill a deer just let me see deer and have some entertainment, thats why I spend my money, to see deer. Now with a nearly 3 month doe season of regular or single shot rifle they call primitive weapon, The doe herd in most places is hurting bad. Unfortunately if you allow people to legally they will kill every last deer and its really showing the last two years. If this keeps up we will struggle to find a deer track in another year or two especially when you couple the massive coyote population that is definitely taking a toll on our deer herd in addition to the endless doe slaughter. I think Louisiana is slightly worse off on most properties than Mississippi as Mississippi had a larger herd and is about 2 years behind Mississippi on average lands. Now this does not hold true on premium high dollar land with limited hunter and very controlled harvest quotas but on typical hunting club and timber company lands this is what is going on. If we want a chance at saving our herd we need to adjust the doe season as soon as possible and speak up now as a group before we decline another 10 percent. Anyone want to make a stand now is the time and this is the vehicle to gather enough support to get the ball rolling.
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Doe Slaughter
DMAP is nothing but a doe slaughter program. A club that borders us is DMAP and every year they are told to kill 30 does. This year they only killed 8 I think. Last year they didn't kill 30 either but next year, they will be told to kill 30 again. I think they go overboard with trying to achieve a 1:1 ratio. We have killed so many does that I think we now have way more bucks than we do does. For every doe we see, we will see 2 or 3 bucks. Only problem is we are overrun with spikes and small 3 - 4 points. Every year we think we are gonna see a lot of bucks because we see so many small bucks the previous year and every year we are disappointed...
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ilovedeer
Now we have another fawn eating machine. This is the black bear that I dont recall ever being asked if we wanted them. Do some research. A black bear can eat up alot of fawns. Dr. Deer on the outdoor channel wrote a big article on this in whitetail magazine. My entire family and ancesters or from Pointe coupee parish, we came before the civil war and my great grand mother wrote countless stories about my pass family hunts. Never has a bear ever been mentioned. They were brought here from up north somewhere put on our property without permission and now we are stuck with them. With yotes, bob cats, hogs destroying deer habitat and now black bear we really dont need doe season. You dont want to hunt where the bear numbers or high. They keep the deer well spooked and not to mention the black bear is a dangerous animal no matter how much the LDWF down plays it. Whats next lions and tigers.
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Can't Help It
ilovedeer --- Oh My!!!!! Sorry, couldn't help myself. Be careful bad-mouthing bears. I brought that issue up last year and thought I was gonna be hanged...
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ilovedeer
Dont get me wrong I would never break any game laws because I love to hunt too much to lose my privleges. This is still a free country and a person should be able to express his opinion to the LDWF without them wanting to hang you. I just sometimes fell like the LDWF would like to see the deer just go away. They are not doing whats best for the deer herd. We pay the bills it lokks like they would pay attention to the hunters a little more.
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enuf
ilovedeer, dont ya'll ever get tired of blaming everything but the right thing? Since when have u seen lwf agents killing any deer, much less over the limit? There was a bear season in ur area up until the mid '80's, so saying someone brought them in without ur permission is preposterous. What u want, eleminate all predators so deer will become tame enough to kill? If ur limit is too high, lower it, dont try to limit my time in the woods just for some pie in the sky hope for 'trophy bucks'.
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ilovedeer
I can't see how Pointe Coupee's bear numbers is limiting your time in the woods and I also can't ever remember a bear season. However I due remember seeing bear being turned loose in the spillway and the whole area being declared bear habitat. I don't know you, please by all means spend as much time in your woods as you like.
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Bears
There has never been a time where there were no bears in Louisiana.In 1959 it reached a low of 80 to 120 bears state wide. In 1963? 160 bears were
brought from Minn. 130 were released in Point Coupee and the rest in Tensas. The last bear season
was in 1988, not sure what parishes it involved but pretty sure Pointe Coupee was one of them.

On topic : worst season ever. I hunt in Avoyelles
No discernible rut, deer numbers way down overall.
TOO MANY DOES BEING KILLED SINCE EVERYDAY A DOE DAY and to many young bucks being killed.

IMO we need to go back to the doe days and have a point restriction like most other states have .
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