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Anyone know if the grass beds that extend out into the edge of lake lery have any teal in september? Was thinking about hunting the edge of the lake oneday on the south side of the lake? Also map shows grand lake and sun lagoon state claimed? Also much of the open water by pencil canal? I would imagine the state would fix the map if it was that wrong over the years?
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Be careful. Just because it is state claimed doesnt mean you can hunt it. The entire area around Lake Lery/Delacroix is privately owned and most is already leased out for duck hunting. State Claimed doesnt not mean public land. The only public land to hunt in the St Bernard area is Biloxi WMA.
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I cant imagine hunting the lake lery shoreline to be a problem? Its a public lake
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   redfish19
I have a lease on lake Leary and it does extend into part of the lake and into surrounding marsh; there is no public land there we all PAY to hunt it, and I can promise it will not be fun if you are in someones lease they pay big money for when they get there to hunt. As above mentioned the only public land in that area that is not privately leased is Biloxi wma
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I would not recommend posting up on to edge of the lake because that would be the setting up on the edge of someone's lease. That is all considered Delacroix lease land and is high dollar property. You are asking for trouble if you do that. Technically, you have a lease of your own- the Biloxi WMA. Your tax dollars go to maintaining the property and launches. We are lucky to have such prime land marked for public use in this state- there is no need to hunt someone else's lease.
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   GADWALL
I have a lease from Delacroix Corp. and it borders the South side of lake Lery. If you hunt there you are in violation of tresspassing laws and if you actually shoot anything, you would be in violation of poaching. For the record: there is no 'open' land in the Delacroix marsh complex. I just got me lease renewal on Friday and it has gone up again; so please find somewhere on public land to hunt as we pay hard earned cash for the right to hunt our leased property.
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   redfish19
Gadwall is correct and with the new la wldf app where picture can be taken and sent to them via text when someone is in suh violation makes it quick and easy to catch trespassers/poachers...and the state land map does not show all leased land and hunting land; there are known hunting clubs all down the amite river and it does not show them...in fact that is thr big disclaimer on that site is not all information is updated or garaunteed to be accurate
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Yeah there is a disclaimer i agree but the entire map of state claimed land is not wrong i hate to inform you the entire map is not wrong. I have to say the disclaimer is for a small percentage of the map being wrong in my opinion..if i hunt the edge of lake lery(not the shoreline but a hundred or two hundred yds out and yall call the law then go ahead is all i can say ill bring the map with me) The state legal team constantly updates the map for any changes or discrepencies. I talked to a lot of guys that do the surveys for the state most of that the state claims on the map and idk if it wound up in court who would be right but the state is constantly in court for landowners that try to say they have the deed to same land state claims sometimes they win and sometimes not.
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   redfish19
All of a sudden you are that sure of the maps accuracy, while in the original post you were asking a question regarding it lol? I didn't say all of it was wrong but I'm telling you it doesn't show alot of land that is private. and your going to bring the map to defend your argument, that in the disclaimer says is not a viable source or evidence in a crime case because it leaves so much out? We're just telling you thr facts that the land out there is leased including sections of shore line and extending into the lake...what is the point of taking thr risk and/or actually trespassing when there's plenty of wma land where you can kill plenty teal without breaking thr law; the group i hunted with last year personally killed limits of te every day on wma's....but if you insist on pushin the issue go for it, but don't come on here crying about how you got a ticket or how land owners came and parked there boat next to yours in the middle of your hunt while they waited for wldf
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   redfish19
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I am saying that at least some of that map must be correct..why would the state not change it if it was that wrong? They must have done some legal investigating when coming up with the map surely they didnt pull it out of thin air? It says the state tries to make an honest map and in good faith..they do not purposely put land that is private on this map.
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   redfish19
A government office making a mistake, and not being quick to fix it or even caring to fix it...yea never heard of such a thing :/...idk how that office works so I can't answer why they wouldn't fix it, but there is not rush or responsibility for them to do it because of the disclaimer prefacing access to the maps.

Yes some of thr map is correct I agree....some of it is not.. You inquired about the area, and we are telling you that the area you are referring to is privately owned/leased and therefore incorrect on the map. All of thr land in that area is owned by land corps,oil companies, or private parties that either hunt or lease out hunting rights. If you want to hunt that area, legally and ethically, you must pay like the rest of us. Its not to be a jerk but we(thr members of my lease) don't spend that much money to have to have someone coming on our land were hunting that we would have to compete w, that's why we pay an ungodly amount of money for private land and that is why I can say I would personally stop a hunt and come ruin a trespassers hunt while I sat by their decoy spread and waited for wildlife...there would be no confrontation or gettin stupid, I would just quietly sit drinkin my coffee flaring off every bird while I waited for thr ticket to be handed out.
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Lake lery is a public lake which therefor the state owns and can be hunted just like lake bouef/cataouatche/salvador/pontchartrain.
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   GADWALL
Where can I find these maps that Duckhunter777 is referring to? Just want to see what he is referencing.
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   redfish19
So you went from questioning this, to all of a sudden beig sure? Or are you just pulling this out of thin air...and maybe thr lake is towards the center is public idk, but you had said close to tr shore and I'm telling you shore and outwards a ways in some cases is leased.
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Im not tryin to start a fight i hunt biloxi wma mainly. I was just wanting to get in a teal hunt or two in september. The map is at the louisiana state land and water bottoms website. http://doa.louisiana.gov/slo/slabsdataaccess.htm or type it in google search..
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   redfish19
Go on google, and type in Louisiana state lands office. It will bring you thr website; on thr home page there will be a navigation bar on thr upper left hand side, click on thr top one I beleive; it will bring you to thr page w thr disclaimer I poster, an from that page you can access thr map
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   redfish19
You can teal hunt in Biloxi?
Not Startin a fight, I jus asked a direct question of why all of a sudden you went from questioning to all of a sudden being so sure? Like I said I would never fight with a trespasser (or anyone on here) I would just quietly sit on tr edge of their decoy spread ruining their hunt like they did mine while I waited for wldf lol. We're just saying we pay alot of money to hunt land privately so please be ethical enough to respect that
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Id never go out there in the a.m. only maybe an evening teal during the week hunt in september on the lakeshore and only once or twice
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   redfish19
It doesn't matter what time you go, or wether its weekend or weekday it's still trespassing. I'm a RN at thr hospital so I hunt alot of weekdays morning and afternoon and if your trespassing ur trespassing sorry just how it is. You can hunt wma and be ethical and successful.
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   redfish19
We just got a lease on thr western part of lery and some more land a little further south? Would you mind emailing me? Jus wondering how yal do out there and maybe what to expect n all that. Thanks!

Randypey@gmail.com
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   Carnes01
DH7777, you've got ten guys telling you the facts, I'm pretty sure they're not guessing but you are....is it really worth a few teal for a major fine that'll be on your record for 7 years?!?!?! Tell you what, I'll meet you at the dock and drop some birds off for you!!! GL this year...

SC
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Why dont one of yall guys lease me a pond then to duck hunt?
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   redfish19
After just saying you have the understanding that the area you are inquiring about to hunt is private, and saying 'well I would only go once or twice in the afternoon'(which is saying you'd only trespass and poach twice) that doesn't exactly speak volumes for your hunting ethics...and after saying such how could I trust you to not come over and hunt mu pond to that you didn't lease if you knew I wasn't there...
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I understand
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   papa-p
i know someone that was hunting public water just aways from the bank of a private lease. The guy from lease try harassing the guy in the lake by standing on shore and scaring birds away. Well sheriff department came. Guess who was in the wrong. The guy on private land. not trying to stir the pot, just saying it happens.
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If duckhunter777 is hunting on the shoreline of the lake he would be trespassing because its private property. BUT...if he were in a boat blind several hundred yards into the lake completely surrounded by water or even in a layout boat in the center of the lake THERE IS NOT A DAMN THING ANYONE COULD DO! A person DOES NOT LEASE LAKE LERY.....PLAIN AND SIMPLE. Just like they do not lease Lakes Borgne,Ponchartrain,Cataouchee (spelling),Salvador,etc. The leased land is the land around the lake NOT.I REPEAT NOT THE LAKE! If you leased a pond off Lake Pontchartain and you see a guy hunting divers in a layout boat a mile or two into the lake....are you going to run him off? I DONT THINK SO.............case closed
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By the way................I hunt the middle of Lake Lery quite often with No problems. It actually helps out the marsh hunters when birds are in the lake. One January morning four of us got 24 ducks by 9am. And not all divers! Mainly grays and a few pintail. Two hundred decoys and 5 mojos did the trick.
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Well thats what im saying man that lakeshore gotta be loaded with teal in september. Was out there fishing saturday man they had grassbeds extending 500 yds in the lake in some spots.You cant tell me ppl could run me out of the lake...nobody wants to hunt a lease just tryin to hunt a public lake thats all.. yall hunt teal in the lakeshore mallardmasher?
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ok so my question now becomes say i hunt 500 yards off the shoreline in lake pontchatrain am i legal? just wondering
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Yea im sure man ppl hunt all the time like that in lake pontchartrain 500 yds is a long way
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Forget hunting teal there for teal season. Wrong habitat. Yes, you would be legal hunting 500 yards into ANY lake. Years ago,until the mid eighties, Louisiana had a special scaup season which was held in late January after the regular season. And guess what? They could be hunted ONLY IN THE COASTAL LAKES.such as......Borgne,Ponchartrain,Eloi,etc.etc
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Ever teal hunt Biloxi marsh for teal mallard masher?
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   low bird
I think you have been given some sound advice. I own and lease land in that area and the outcome of hunting off the shoreline will depend on who you run into. Best case you get an stern warning and run off and from there it's all down hill.

I have friends that OWN land on the shoreline and some of those grass beds you saw off the shoreline were not grass beds 8 years ago. They still own the rights to what's under the 1' of water and they do hunt it.

Now the middle of the lake that's another story.

Your best bet is Biloxi.
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   jjoojj
Not saying I agree or disagree, but if the lake is public, then why wouldn't someone be able to hunt in it? Is it open for fisherman?
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   low bird
The maps that show the land owners property lines extend into waters of lakes and lagoons. The people that own it and pay taxes on it as well as people that lease kind of believe they can do what they want with it.

Grass beds OFF the shoreline are more than likely private actually. I'm not sure about the middle but I've never seen anyone cry about someone hunting the middle.

Dk7777 as far as a lease angler manament has put up leases on here before but you more than likely didn't want to put out that much money.
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Here is my understanding of how it works and how we deal w/ poacher on my lease on the Pearl.

No water way can be owned, only land and bottoms. So legaly you could hunt open water as long as your boat does not touch bottom or shore. B/c no one owns the water...BUT....here is the kicker.

If you or your dog set foot on the bottom or solid land to retrieve a bird you have poached/tresspassed...And according to FEDERAL law if you down a bird you MUST make an attempt to retrieve it.

So if you retrieve it you tresspasssed and if you dont attempt to retrieve it you committed a felony. So we take a picture, camp out near them and record thier boat numbers and wait for them to shoot a bird. Soon as they do its all over.

DH777 you should really be more respectful to fellow hunters IMO. You repeatedly spew some retarded crap on these forums sometimes. And when people try to be helpful and give you honest answers to your questions you argue with them. They lease land to hunt so they can avoid ppl like you respect it and find your opportunities elswhere, there are plenty.
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   redfish19
As the thread above me says no one will throw a fit if ur huting the middle of the lake...originally in your post u had said the shoreline or right by it in which some areas extend out...it's like the story keeps changing...if you want to hunt in the middle knock yourself out at that point your not bein disrespectful or breaking the law...if your huntin right off the shoreline ur doing both...but setting up 500 yards in the lake right by someone's blind if they have one...that's pretty weak...if you want the good huntig in thr area pony it up like everyone else
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   Marshdeer
After reading all these comments, one thing has become apperent. People that pay'Big Money' to hunt, also have Big Mouths!!! They also think that because they lease 'land' they can control public waters. Here is the deal as best as I can explain it. Yes their lease papers may show them owning property out into the lake. However if there is no visible land then they own nothing. That is how the State land office aquires public waters, from erosion. So basically if I was Duckhunter777 I would hunt the edges of the lake also. It is not different than salvador, catouchie,Lake feilds or any other public lake. However if they are friends with the local law, and we all know how Louisiana politices work, then it may be more trouble than it worth. But hell all this fuss raised about this hunting has me thinking about building a blind on the south shore line!!!! LOL
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IT does not matter if you are 50 yards or 500 yards from the lake lery shoreline you are still LEGAL! THE LAND AINT THERE NO MORE! Therefore its declared public waters. Fellows you DO NOT lease any part of lake lery......just think about it. Yes, the pockets and coves are part of your leases BUT NOT THE LAKE ITSELF.............END OF STORY! Let hunt them boys..........its the best kept secret in Delacroix.......the lake is full of birds in January.
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can you please tell these erosion laws to all the people i pay oil royalties to on land that no longer exists?
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   Pintail58
The boundrys of the SLO mapping website are pretty accurate. I hunt private and public lands, and am familiar with having tresspassers, as well as those who think it all belongs to them. If you have an area that you are intrested in hunting, but are not sure of contact the SLO with the exact location of the area in question ( I like to make a PDF file map with the track # in it to send to them) They will tell you yes you can hunt it or no or even sometimes maybe, but unless they say YES it is public accessable 100% then I wouldn't risk the confrontations. Now, after they say Yes they can e-mail you documentation on the property saying where/why/how the state obtained the property. For instance. There was a certain piece of property that bordered a hunting club that I was intrested in hunting. No state lands signs or anything other than that hunting clube posted signs. I contacted the SLO about it and they sent me documentation on it saying that it was donated by DOW back in 84' and that it was complete public access. Carried the map and documentation with me and when I was confronted, and the game wardens were called in the WLF said that I was in 100% compliance and that they needed to not mess with anyone on this track. So Just a map showing theat the state claimes it as nav waters is not enough. You need other forms of identification of the area in question that shows that you have public access to the area. A lot of the land has washed away due to costal erosion, and there are a lot of the properties under water now. Bottom line is that we as sportsman/woman need to know, understand, and respect the guidlines laid out for us to enjoy the sports that we care so deeply about. Otherwise, we will put ourselves out of a hobby.
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   GADWALL
All this talk is a bunch of BS. If you are in proximity of private land, you should respect that the lease holder paid for the right to hunt his property and simply find somewhere on public land to hunt. If you see a crease in the law and feel justified by hunting the middle of Lake Lery; then proceed. But shacking up over a grassbed within sight of lease holders blinds/property is just disrespectful. I wish my problem with poaching only concerned people like DH777 who just want to camp out on the 'edge' of private property. I have guys using my blinds and shacking up in the dead center of my property sometimes! Tired of running the guys off! Just because you have the means to go anywhere (mud motor rig), doesn't mean you have the right to do so. Please respect private property.
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Don't let the wealthy overprivilaged bullies scare you away from hunting state owned water bottoms. If the lease holders want to be get technical ask them why I have the ability to fish any pond I want in their lease at any time without repercussion. The simple fact is that it has not yet been decided exactly who owns water bottoms. The individuales who lease are leasing land not water. And by the way eroded land becomes part of state owned water bottoms until it is recalimed by the property owner through filling and with a permit form the Corps and the State Lands Office. The whole lease program is just a way for land owners and oil companies to make money on wetlands for which there is no other way to produce income other than minaral rights. Please go to court and find out who owns water botttoms I think you will all be suprised at the outcome of that situation. If a water body is navigable it is state owned. I am not saying to be disrespectful as the lease owners like to be. I think hunting in lake leary off the shoreline shouldn't be a problem for all parties. invloved.
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Well all im saying is i emailed the guys at the state in charge of the map and they said the shaded purple area the pulic has access to and cant hunt public water 'bottoms' claimed by the state. However guys try to lease the same water to private people for a duck lease so who really is right the state or the lease holder? Also why wouldnt the guy '''''leasing his high dollar land/water'''' look at the state map and compare his property to it and tell the state to take his lease off of the states map if it 'TRULY' is HIS property right?? I couldnt make someone pay that much money for something that unclear? One guy tried to lease an entire bay to someone and really man you think that wasnt navigable in 1812?? If it was navigable in 1812 thats how the state legally claims the water bottoms. How can you claim that as private when clearly the state OBVIOUSLY claims something that large??
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   alspanky
if you only want to go a couple of times why not do a couple of guided hunts? You can get teal hunts for about 125-150
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   redfish19
Dude are u freakin kiddin me wealthy and overprivaleged hunters? How bout picks up extra shifts bustin ### so can have a nice place to hunt....were jus saying be respectful...don't hunt on shoreline if u see a blind someone is hunting 200 yards away...that concept would apply to this situation and on a wma.
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