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what would be a good rifle for a teenager that wants a bullet bigger than the 30 30

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iv been searching the web for a new gun and a bigger caliber and i wanted a bigger caliber please comment
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how old are yuu? i got my 30-06 when i was 12 and love it!!! im 16 now. drops them EVERY time!
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   tom1959
check out 7mm08. hot little caliber. i see a lot of people have changed over from the 243 to 7mm08. if you get one get all your ammo you will need because they sell out early.this appears to be the youth model of today/
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   Ricky Pon
At 16 years old you should be capable of shooting a bigger rifle than .243 and a 30-06. These guns are good for younger hunters but the ballistics on these guns are pretty bad as far as capabilities go. Deefinitely not a gun i would want to be using when trying to hit something over 220 yards. Now keep in mind, this is my opinion. i know a lot of ole tymers that still use a 30-06. My favorite guns i own are 300 short mag and 7 Mag. Pretty well rounded guns in my opinion. Great ballistics and they have the knock power to take up north.

With all of that being said, consider where you hunt when buying a rifle. If you dont need the distance, then the guns i suggested may be overkill for you. I hunt in mississippi and we have some plots that offer very far shots. Goodluck with everything

Edit: Thought the poster of this thread was 16.
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...... I know when I was a teenager I always wanted something bigger , no matter what it was , guns , boats , motors , tires and rims , etc. , and found alot of times when I got what I wanted , it really wasn't what I wanted ..... with that being said go really big and get it out your system quick with only one jump amd not a bunch of small ones -----------check out a thread a posted about the 95 caliper gun , I think you have to have a weapon of mass destruction license to own one of them , and at $40 per bullet a winning lottery ticket
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.308 Hardly any recoil, and goes a long way. If I had any money right now, I would buy the CVA .35 wheelen in stainless for $370. Add a $100 scope and you set. The .35 got more kick than the .308 though. For a smaller kid .308. My son shoots a .44 mag H&R. He also has an old SKS that shoots good for a smaller person gun too.
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Two good calibers. 260 and the 7-08. Both are excellent for deer. Just be careful when buying the gun. Get a good bolt action. I know you are probably looking for a lighter gun, being for your child, but, lighter is not always better when it come to accuracy. Learned this the hard way. Chances are HeShe will not be shooting freehand anyways. Get some shooting sticks that fit the situation. If my old memory serves me well I think the 260 is available in 120grains. Happy hunting and good luck.
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thanks
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my 30-06 is dead on at 250 yards 150 grain remington korelokt!js
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   fiahspeck
A 7mm-08 is a great 'inbetween' rifle' flat shooting very little recoil!!
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Fist of all, my favorite round is the 7mm mag, so I'm not saying 308 simply because its my favorite round. It really depends on the rifle though. Of course a bolt action will have more felt recoil than an auto. I had a benelli R1 in 300 win mag that had less felt recoil than my 270. Anyway, I would say the 308 win. is a great round for most all ages and both genders. The 308 generates lower recoil than a 30-06 and 270 but is still comparable in velocity and energy over 100 yards (especially to the 30-06). My good friends 13 year old daughter shoots a Rem.700 in 308 with no problem. The 7mm-08 is a good round but as you get a little older I think you will want a bigger caliber rifle than the 08.
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Lormanboss,sounds like you should love the 7mm-08. After all it is a 7mm bullet in a 308 case. I don't understand the part about getting older and you might want a bigger caliber. Do the deer get bigger when we get older? I have just about every caliber 'hunting caliber' for North America hunting situations that is, and I'm old and my favorite caliber is the 7mm-08. Low recoil and plenty power,assuming were talking about deer hunting.
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   Iceman
The 7mm-08 is a great round. My oldest son shot it in a youth rifle. Great bullet. He'd still be shooting that caliber but he outgrew the rifle and I handed down my 270 to him. My youngest son is about to start shooting that same youth model 7mm-08. My brother in law has been shooting a 7mm-08 for 15 years, and his son now shoots it as well. The 7mm-08 in a 140 grain core lokt has performed great for all of them, on bucks as heavy as 245 pounds. A 270 Win is 2/10th of an inch flatter than the 7mm-08 at 300 yards, with a 200 yard zero, but with less recoil. Not enough to worry about.
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I just meant that as he gets a little older like 18 to younger 20's and starts hunting with buddies the same age that shoot 300's, 7 mags and 06's, the 7mm-08 is not exactly the 'coolest' big boy round. No disrespect to 7mm-08 users but, I tend to see a lot of older gentlemen and ladies using them. That's all I meant. I remember going back and forth with hunting buddies back in the day, about who had the 'mans' gun and teasing the guy with the 243, even though that 243 had killed way more deer than our big guns...Its like bringing the 38 special snub nose when everyone else is sporting dirty harry style 44's. Once ya grow out of all that then whatever is comfortable to you is all that truely matters.
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   bigjim
A 270 sure has to be at the top of the pick list. I've had them all and my go to gun is always the 270, low recoil, flat shooting and extremely accurate. I've killed nearly 200 animals deer and hogs including a few coyotes with 270 and only ever lost 2 animals and they were both my fault, bad shots, not lethal shots. Many were big bucks and big hogs and they bang flop every time.
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...old John Wayne would turn-over in his grave if he read this ???...Gitty-Up Go Daddy !!!

P/S serious,I went thru the same circle and after spending $1500 or $1600 ended up w/a Marlin straight stock open sights...w/a dab of white paint on the bead !!! cheers
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   SBLedHed
Judging form your profile you don't really need a new caliber. Unless you want do some long range hunting or for larger game, I would say you have a good selection at the moment. I didn't start buying larger caliber or superior ballistic firearms until I started hunting in more open places out of state and for larger game. Don't get me wrong I love the idea of getting a new gun, but I have to ask myself 'Why and do I need this?' to keep myself from spending too much of my hard earned money.

Generally speaking, most people in Louisiana don't shoot farther than 200yds, mostly at whitetail deer, which are not particularly tough animals, and your .30-30 can handle that. But If you are dead set on a new rifle I would say try out your friends, relatives, etc. guns to find what you are comfortable with. Everyone has their own preference and opinion, which may or may not be the best for you personally.

Admiral: I think the Duke is rolling in his grave! I had a Winchester 94 .30-30 and shot my first as well as many deer thereafter with it. Unfortunately it was stolen and I have been trying to replace it ever since. My favorite Hunting rifle ever. I would even choose to hunt with it over my .270win that I got for X-mas later when I was 13.
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30-30 was the gun that won the west ! That gun killed everything from outlaws to buffalo ... Why wouldn't it be good enough for whitetail deer ?
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   Mrbaker
Agree with bigjim. Consider the 270. My son started with a 243 at age 7 and has shot a 270 since he was 9. He is 15 and has taken deer every year. His longest shot was 169 yards & last year he took an 11 pt buck that scored 144. As he grew we increased the grain of the bullet. BTW, I shoot a 30-06. Good luck.
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I highly recommend a .270 bolt action (preferrably one with a three way safety) for a youngster. He or she can use managed-recoil ammo initially if necessary and then graduate to regular ammo. This caliber has lower recoil than the 30-06, 7 mm Mag. etc. but is an excellent flat shooting caliber for multiple uses. It is my favorite caliber BTW.
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   split-toe
Alot of hunters haven't heard about this cartridge but its essientially a .338 caliber bullet on a smaller brass that has low recoil. Its not a 500yd gun but very effective out to 300yds. Research it when you get a chance, I think it would be a great round for a teen vs a .243 or something similar because of the size of the caliber (.338) it will be much more deadly.
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338 is a great bear or moose gun and it is the first post to answer his question with a viable alternative. All those 30-06's, 7 mm etc are smaller or the same caliber as the 30-30.

Why would you/he want a caliber bigger than 30? Not saying you shouldn't go bigger like a 444 or 45-70 just curious as to why in this case the search for a larger caliber.
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   split-toe
Mike I would not recommend the .338 federal for a moose or bear due to the size of the charge it has, the capacity of the brass is somewhat similar to a .308 but just a little smaller. I can get real technical but I'll save you the long story and just tell you the .338 federal was developed for mainly deer sized game and smaller hunters that need the low recoil to build confidence. Don't get it confused with a .338 magnum although its the same caliber the .338 magnum, lapua, and ultra mag are totally in a different class of high power. One thing to take in consideration is the heavier the bullet the more recoil so if the teen can accept a smaller caliber I would recommend the 25-06 in a light grain bullet.
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   split-toe
The .338 Federal is a rifle cartridge based on the .308 Winchester case necked up to .33 caliber. It was created by Federal Cartridge and Sako in 2006 and intended as a big game cartridge with reasonable recoil for lightweight rifles.[1]

Contents [hide]
1 Comparison
2 Rifles
3 See also
4 References
5 Notes
6 External links

[edit] ComparisonIn terms of performance, the .338 Federal compares favorably with cartridges that have similar capacities and purposes. It has less recoil yet similar muzzle velocity and energy compared to the 7mm Remington Magnum in bullets of the same weight while having greater energy than the .30-06 Springfield. The .300 Winchester Magnum is also a worthwhile comparison despite the .300's considerably higher recoil. Also included in the table below is the older .358 Winchester, another cartridge based on the .308.

.338 Federal Performance Comparison Cartridge Bullet Weight Muzzle velocity Muzzle energy Load[a] Recoil in 8 lb (3.6 kg) rifle
gr g ft/s m/s ft·lbf J gr g ft·lbf J
.338 Federal 210 14 2,630 800 3,226 4,374 47 3.0 21.71 29.43
.338 Federal 180 12 2,830 860 3,202 4,341 47 3.0 19.27 26.13
7mm Rem Mag 175 11.3 2,860 870 3,178 4,309 63 4.1 22.44 30.42
.300 Win Mag 180 12 2,960 900 3,502 4,748 73 4.7 27.12 36.77
.30-06 180 12 2,750 840 3,022 4,097 56 3.6 20.48 27.77
.308 Win 180 12 2,600 790 2,703 3,665 45 2.9 16.02 21.72
.358 Win 200 13 2,490 760 2,753 3,733 49 3.2 19.08 25.87
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unless you reload, it really doesn't make any sense to get anything other than a 270, 30-06, 308, or 7MM Mag. You can kill anything you want to in America with them, they don't kick too bad,ammo is cheap (compared to the big Mags. and specialty calibers) and they are all fairly flat out to 300yds. Truth is most people have no business shooting past 300yds, and sighted in at 250, these rounds are all capable of being within 4 inches of the line of sight all the way to 300yds with factory ammo.
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   split-toe
I was just answering the question asked which was what is bigger than a 30 cal that would be good for a teen. I totally agree with you on the 270's and other common calibers, plenty enough gun for a deer and pretty flat shooting but, there aren't many people that set their gun up to shoot within the kill zone (8in on deer) at 300 yards most hunters I know sight in for 1in high at 100. Most of the common rifles like a 270 drop 8 to 10in at 300yds when sighted in a inch high at 100yds and over 30 inches at 500yds. My preference is dead on at 100 just in case I want a head shot or have to shoot in a tight spot but I rarely get a shot past 200 at a deer where I hunt. For the record I was shooting a 270 when I was 8 and I did pretty good with it.
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