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What if baiting was banned

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What if baiting for deer was banned? No corn or rice bran allowed. Would heads just explode? Would chaos ensue? Would people just stop hunting?

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would more hunters actually become better hunters and more in tune to nature? deer would be less nocturnal?

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I think the term you use is correct baiting. There is a big difference in Feeding and Baiting deer. In our area the vegetation can be scarce during parts of the year and I like to supply these animals with the things that they would need during those time. However with that being said I do not set up shop right on top of these areas. I also believe that the reason deer have become more nocturnal over the years has more to do with human activity in the woods! 10 years ago people were not in the woods constantly year round putting up game cameras and scouting as much in the off-season. Now that technology allows us to monitor deer activity thru cameras we are in their territory much more often. Example in my lease we have a guy that shows us all these nice bucks he has on camera coming to his food plot at night but never sees them during daylight hours. However every time he is at the camp he drives his four-wheeler out to his field. Walks out into his field and checks the camera. The deer know that they do not have that pressure on them at night. Just my 2 cents
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   slickhead
I really have not thought of that about people being in the woods more now. I think there is some truth to that. I know plenty of people who have tons of pics of big deer on their camera but they never seem to have a picture of themselves with that deer on the ground!
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I think it would go just about like it goes in Mississippi where baiting has been illegal for years although the laws recently were modified.

But even before the recent modification in Mississippi, the use of corn as bait was prolific. I am pretty sure all the hardware stores in Mississippi that sold bags of corn and such didn't just sell tons of it during hunting season because people were feeding squirrels at the house only during squirrel season.
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I think most hunters wouldn't know where to begin . The way it is these days is you find a nice looking spot , clean it out , plant some rye grass , put up a feeder and build a box stand . Oh yeah , put a camera out to see what you have coming to the corn , then see what times , then go sit in the box at the same time the deer are coming to your feeder . Pretty simple but it's not really hunting and it's not exactly farming . I'm not sure what it is ??

So without bait , the 'hunters' would either learn how to hunt , or quit 'hunting' .

Mike I hunted in miss. for about 4 yrs . The only times we used corn was for the youth week .
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   deerman24
I hunt in Alabama where it is not legal to feed deer(although most people do). I do feed deer on our property but not where I hunt. I have noticed that the bucks that come to the feeder do so at night and rarely do they come in the daylight. Why should they. They will feed at night and sleep in the daytime. I have killed a few nice bucks away from the feeder and a couple were deer I saw feeding at night on the feeders. deer are not stupid and when you go to your feeder and camera you leave your scent and it will stay there for awhile.Put your feeder in an area where they have to cross where you are hunting to get to the feeder and leave the feeder. you would be better off.
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   slickhead
I guess we all grew up learning from different people and everyone has there different ways. I have been in the woods with people before and they see a couple scrapes a nice deer trail and some feed trees and they immediately want to start cutting shooting lanes an put up a feeder! Thats a sure way of running them out the area. My way of thinking is that the deer are already there, get out of there and hunt it without doing anything to make it look unnatural.
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   deerman24
right idea slickhead. if you disturb a deers scraping area he for sure will leave.
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You make a great point slickhead about the scrape comment. I have a buddy of mine that is that hunter. He tells me time and time again about seeing scrapes and instantly wanting to go put corn in the area. My comment is always the same to him. 'He didn't make that scrape for some food he made that scrape to get lucky' HAHAHAHA Needless to say my buddies practices have not paid off for him!

I still stick to the comment about the activity in the woods. It truly is nice to get a big buck on camera but is ten times nicer to put him in the freezer.
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   biga
I used to hunt a 160 acre tract in Wilson. About 100 acres was 9yo pine plantation and the rest was hardwood bottom. 1000 acres around me, the hunters constantly drove 4 wheelers in bringing corn and rice bran. I would hunt the edges of my hardwoods until the time was right for me to slip in. Saw and killed more deer than the guys around me, who fed the deer. I did however feed prior to season to see what was there, but once the season started, I never put another bag out.
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IMO if baiting was outlawed I believe people would see more deer because they would have to browse on briars and acorns rather than sit under a feeder for 10 minutes and be full then go bed down all day. dont get me wrong i do have a feeder on my food plot but its mainly for my wife to come and see turkeys, coons, and other wildlife. i do agree with the activity comment and baiting scrape line comments i see it every year and it amazes me time after time.
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   TLandry25
If baiting was illegal lots of people would have to learn how to hunt deer
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   Capt Bob
I hunt only public land, use no bait is allowed. Never seemed to keep me from getting meat!I still hunt mostly, and sometimes use a ground blind.Im 75 and hunt by myself and sometimes with friends. I get at least 2 deer every yr, even more most of the time ! Can't see how baiting really helps unless your on private land and can keep the food in front of them !Just my 2 cents
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Wow we have a lot of true hunting experts, don't get me wrong the price has driven me out of the corn game and I may buy one bag of rice bran a year. What does bother me is all you guys professing to be hunters and saying guys that do corn are not. Most people get to hunt a few weekend days a year, and this is after investing possibly $1000s of dollars in it. Some have kids and grand kids that they want to see and possibly kill a deer. Quit being so judgemental and hunt like you want to and keep your bashing down. We do not need to drive anymore people from the sport than are already leaving it. Only way to keep people interested is some measure of success. PS: I have hunted over 40 years and killed more deer than most, bucks have always been more nocturnal except during the rut. Stop blaming it on corn.
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I truly feel the amount of human activity makes them nocturnal. Just the amount of time that we are in their area not just shooting them just our presence makes them that way. I do find it funny how dumb these creatures get when the rut comes around. I walked up on a young buck 2 years back checking a scrape he jumped off. I walked past the scrape about 75 yds and turned and looked behind me and sure enough that same little buck was back checking the scrape out and ran off. Great experience I had!!
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   ROB213
You know I was tempted not to comment on this subject. I have been very outspoken on this subject in the past and very much opposed to bait. You can read a really good study done in South Carolina by Charles Ruth on this subject. None of the guy's I know, hunting in La. or Miss. have any big bucks on the wall they shot over bait. They have a lot of nice photo's of bucks eating bait, but no bucks. Will it work some places, some times, I'm sure even a blind squirrel can find a nut every now and then. I think its our way of life these days, everything quick with as little work as possible. The things my father taught me as a young hunter are not known or passed on by a lot of hunters. Don't get me wrong, I'm not knocking anyone for the way they hunt, they just don't understand anything different. Good Luck and Good Hunting
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   7magJake
I feed the deer on my hunting property. I think there is a line between baiting and feeding and most times that line is drawn inaccurately, especially by those who are against the practice. I do agree that it is foolish to think that you will kill a legit buck over a pile of corn, unless said buck is just starving. But, I do think it is foolish to criticize those who take the initiative to invest time and money into their herd.

I do agree that it is silly to find a rub or scrape line and automatically think ' Hey, I'm gonna go back to the camp and get me a sack of corn'

What everyone does is different.
I think it is unfair to stereotype hunters that utilize feed into a broad category as some type of dummy going out and finding a few rubs and throwing some corn out. Granted some do this, but I believe many hunters feed in a sensible fashion.

I think there are multiple problems that cause people to not see as many deer as they like.
1. Shooting too many deer from one area. You can continuously shoot deer from the same spot and expect them to keep coming there. If you have a spot you really think you can kill a good buck out of, you need to stick with that plan. Have a stand some what dedicated to shooting does if thats your thing. We do not shoot many does on our property, the guys on the bordering property do that for us.
2. OP, you mentioned maybe deer would be less nocturnal. I am personally outspoken on this issue. I think the deer are more nocturnal because there is more and more pressure on the deer. Maybe it is from people going in and feeding, but as someone involved with farming we see deer all year on places we are at every day. I think the deer are more nocturnal from being shot at everyday during the season. I think with better buck size rules and going back to doe days, I think we would see more deer.

Just my thoughts, everyone is entitled to their beliefs and these are mine.
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