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How to? Catch small croaker in Venice area

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Rotator cuff surgery precludes throwing a castnet right now..

Any advice where to look for them and what bait?
Will be staying at Cypress Cove in a couple weeks.
Would any be hanging out at the fish cleaning station?
Will they bite at night?
Plan to use a rig with small,#6 gold hooks tipped with small pieces of shrimp.

Any advice on the kind of bottom they like would be appreciated!
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I have had a lot of luck catching bait sized croaker in Grand Isle using a sabiki rig at night under the lights. The best part is when they are thick you can catch 3-4 at a time. I really don't have any other advice as to where to go or what else to use, but if I were you I would go to Wal-Mart and pick up a couple of sabiki rigs just incase nothing else is working for you. They are only a dollar or two per pack.
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sit on the dock at the marina and use a small perch hook with a very small piece of shrimp and a couple of split shots and go right above the bottom. But hold on because you will catch all kinds of other stuff in the mix some may be keepers.
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   fowlfish
Buy them from the Venice Marina.
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I agree, catch them with 'the golden hook',....open your wallet
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   jls
Secret Formula.......... Every1 doesn't have alot $$$$$, to buy live bait croakers sorry but i just had to throw that out there
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JIS,

It's not a lot of $$$$. It's a small part of the entire package that can make (probably will make) such a significant difference in the trip it's considered an investment in success. Factor in planning your time off, travel, lodging, meals, fuel, drinks for each day and then not budget $32 per day for 100 croakers?....not me
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   fowlfish
Yeah really, its bait.
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   jls
Ummm its alot $$$$ for me ok it cost me round trip just gas w/boat@least $100 easy + ice food etc you know the Math they don't give nada away theses days
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   motorboat
Hobbies are expensive. JLS, maybe you are in the wrong hobby?
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   Samarai
Nothing wrong with spending the day catching bait instead of specks or reds. Next will be why buy plastic lures, we'll just pour all we need. LOL.
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   michauxii
Just called Venice Marina- they don't have croakers right now. Lady said she gets them from time to time ... and live shrimp is 35 cents a piece!

We're driving down from East Texas on Halloween for a four day trip (500 miles). I'm just trying to do my pre-trip homework to see all of the bait options.

There's just something about having a couple big rigs baited with crabs or croaker that gets my blood flowing.

Again, thanks for the info.
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   maisweh
Thats alot of driving to burn $100 just for a fishing trip.. or expensive ice...
gas in the boat: $15-$25
ice: $2
live shrimp sometimes: $20-$40 depending

spending anywhere from $20-$70 a few weekends a month isnt bad. splurge and buy a few small croakers once in a while.
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It is insane to pay 35 cents for live shrimp or any other bait. I catch ALL my live bait and it doesn't cost me a thing.
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   Samarai
For those of us who dont know good areas to catch live shrimp ( cause that's all I fish with), its insane to spend hours looking for bait when u can spend hours fishing for fish.
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if you are too cheap to buy some croakers which can dramatically change your days catch, then you should take up a different hobby. catching to right size croakers are almost impossible and they will die because they have had hooks in the mouth already...whats another 25.00 for some good bait?
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Use a cast net with 3/8' mesh and you will be able to catch all the fresh bait you want. Just idle your boat near a dock that has a light shining on the water and take a few cast. We do this every friday night and catch enough bait to last the entire weekend for 6-8 people. Just place them in your live well or bait bucket and leave the circulating pump run all weekend.
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   Big Moroo
I tried the cast net at the light thing and threw away my cast net (cheap one) due to 500 baby catfish in it. So, spent $15.00 for 50 croaker...
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