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THE LDWF TODAY ANOUNCED THAT ON MARCH 10TH THEY WILL BE HUNTING HOGS ON THE MARSH AREA ON THE SOUTHERN PART OF THE WMAWITH HELICOPTERS.
THEY DONT WANT ANYONE TO BE ALARMED IF THEY HEAR SHOTS COMING FROM THE HELICOPTERS....VERY CONSIDERED OF THEM...NOT ENOUGH HOGS WERE KILLED LAST SEASON AND THEIR NUMBERS ARE INCREASING. WHY DON'T JUST INCREASE HUNTING DAYS ON HOGS IN ALL OF THE WMA , FOR ALL TO ENJOY? HECK I WON'T MIND PAYING FOR AN ADDITIONAL PERMIT, SO I CAN HUNT A COUPLE EXTRA MONTHS OR LONGER. WIN - WIN SITIUATION FOR LDWF AND SPORTSMEN.
WHAT YA'LL THINK?
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CAN LDWF VIOLATE STATE LAWS?
This is yet another blatant display of the deep prevailing corruption that seems to be so much a part of the LDWF. The LDWF apparently are able to break the laws of the state of Louisiana, laws you and I must obey, laws that are enforced at the point of a gun with the threat of jail time. The arrogance of the LDWF’s elitist attitude demonstrates that they believe they are untouchable and are above the laws that you and I are forced to obey (Louisiana Hunting Regulations 2013-14, page 15, “Taking game quadrupeds or birds from aircraft, participating in the taking of deer with the aid of aircraft or from automobiles or other moving land vehicles is prohibited.”).

Then there’s the misinformation, disingenuous dialect, and outright lies that continually come from the LDWF. As recently as the “Public Meeting” this past Saturday in Slidell, LA, LDWF biologist Christian Winslow was heard by several people in attendance to say that the LDWF doesn’t have the money to hire any additional man power to bush hog the trails more than once a year, and acknowledged that this lack of funds was the reason the LDWF has abandoned so many trails in this WMA. That’s right, the LDWF says they don’t have the funds to cut the grass even though it’s been reported that the National Wild Turkey Federation purchased and donated the bush hog and bull dozer at the PRWMA solely for the purpose of maintaining the trails, which is habitat for the turkey (and much of the other wildlife in the WMA).

The LDWF wants us to believe that they don’t have enough money to cut the grass, which provides habitat for the wildlife, but they have more than enough money to pay for helicopter rides for a privileged few to illegally destroy hogs that provide meat for our familes. If there was ever a case for wanton waste this would be it.

In conclusion, the LDWF refuses to allow hunters to carry center fire rifles, or buckshot all through the hunting seasons to harvest hogs for food, or even extend the hog hunting season, which are the established methods of effectively managing wild animal populations, which would not cost the State of Louisiana a penny. Instead, the LDWF, who claims they don’t have enough money to cut the grass, will waste our tax dollars joy riding in helicopters to destroy meat that could have fed our families.

LDWF Announcement http://www.wlf.louisiana.gov/news/37474
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wanton waste
you all need to look up the term wanton waste, it doesn't apply here

You guys just want to hunt the pigs is all, there will still be pigs around don't worry they are just trying to get ahead of the problem before it gets out of control (more out of control)
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did you get that from LDWF...LOL
Wanton Waste is when the LDWF destroys meat that could have been on someone's table feeding their family. As for the 'out of control' issue, I suggest the LDWF is out of control. Then there is the little issue of cost to the tax payer that you overlooked. Extending the hunting seasons, or allowing other methods of taking these hogs would more effectively, and more efficently, reduce the population of these hogs with no additional cost to the tax payer. Yet, the out of control LDWF will spend many thousands of tax payer's dollars to ineffectly fly over take meat off the tables of tax payers. But perhaps you can explain to all of us that don't understand how it is you justify this waste of money...I will be waiting for your repsonse with popcorn, because it should be ammusing.
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negative
feral pigs are not 'game animals', feral pigs are outlaw quadrupeds. Wanton waste does not apply to them. Wanton waste refers to the retrieval of game. You have to make an effort to retrieve downed game.

If it was your definition of wanton waste where meat was wasted, we would be getting tickets for wasting the meat on armadillos and coyotes that you shoot which are also labeled as 'outlaw quadrupeds'
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Slickhead
You are repeating a definition written by those that are wasting the meat…kind of self-serving wouldn’t you think… As for the rest of us, we recognize waste when we see it, waste of meat and money by an out of control LDWF. Oh, I’m still waiting for your justification of their wasteful methods of control of the hog population.
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missing the point
wanton waste refers to GAME ANIMALS, thes are not GAME ANIMALS, they are OUTLAW QUADRUPEDS. Wanton waste does not apply here

Feral pigs are evil, we need to agree on this, they are not beneficial in any way besides meat but the bad FAR outweighs the good. I can show you thousands of pictures of damage these things can do. They destroy turkey nests, they can and will eat fawns, they compete with all of our NATIVE GAME. We don't need them here. Their damage is estimated at over a BILLION dollars, billion is with a B. They are no good, we need them gone.

not a trophy hunter either, I saw you respond to my other thread which was more of a sarastic post poking fun at those type
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SlickHead
IT IS YOU THAT DOESN'T GET IT. We, hunter's of public lands, have to walk many miles into the back woods and swamps with climbing stands on our backs, scout for signs weeks or months in advance of hunting season, don't bait the game, find a spot that hopefully won't have people walking through it, and hope that something comes our way, then do that all over again for each hunt.

We eat these hogs, not just because we like the meat, but because it's the way we feed our families.

You also HAVE NOT EXPLAINED THE WASTED MONEY aspect of using helicopters to shoot hogs when the proven methods I mentioned would have been more productive and not cost the tax payer a dime.

So, please explain why the LDWF would spend that kind of money when there are free and more effective methods available if their real goal was just to reduce hog populations?
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calm down man
you got me wrong, I hunt 95% public and bowhunt most the time, not that it matters one bit in this conversation

Pigs cost WAY more damage than they are worth, thats as easy as I can put it. They costthe state/feds money, they do not make the state/feds money. Have you never seen damage done by feral pigs? They completely destroy everything.

There are very very very few landowners who actually welcome feral pigs. LDWF/FWS, etc are landowners just like other landowners and want them gone because they devalue property. Its that simple
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SlickHead
One more thing, since you are so knowledgeable about hogs and deer, and you say “They destroy turkey nests, they can and will eat fawns, they compete with all of our NATIVE GAME”, it would be nice if you would provide factual verifiable evidence of your claims, and just because you heard someone say that isn’t proof of anything other than you can repeat something you heard.

Most of those that walk many miles hunting in the Honey Island for years know a few things you didn’t mention. Such as in the Honey Island Swamp coyotes kill more fawns, eat more turkey eggs (along with the raccoons), and destroy more nest than do the hogs. So why don’t we see the LDWF doing anything to reduce the coyote population, which they have acknowledged is a greater threat to the deer and turkey than hogs are?

As for competing, deer are browsers and eat leaves, grass, twigs and yes, occasionally newly fallen acorns. Hogs are NOT browsers, and eat almost anything instead of leaves, and mostly eat rotten acorns that are plentiful. We know this because of what we see in the stomachs of these animals when harvested. That’s proof enough for us that hunt the Honey Island Swamp that the two are not competing for the same food sources.

You say that hogs are not native… do you know how long ago hogs and cattle were brought to this country? Did you know that love bugs, tallow trees, many dogs, cats, and even YOU are also not native to this country?
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in response to above poster
'now they want to kill hogs from a helicopter which is against their own laws it is a moving vehicle.'

not against the law its not a GAME animal, we have discussed this

'wanton waste is if it can be eaten they should pick it up and give to someone that will eat it.that can be viewed a lot of ways but meat is meat.'

wrong, it applies to GAME ANIMALS, these are not game animals. If it did apply to outlaw quadrupeds (like feral pigs are classified) then you would have to go and retrieve every armadillo and coyote you shoot and cook it up

':if I kill something and don't want it I donate it to someone that will enjoy it.'

i bet you kill snakes, do you retrieve them and donate them to someone, thats wanton waste in your definition right?

'hogs are a nuisance animal they do a lot of damage'

you should have just ended it right there. They do A LOT OF DAMAGE. It hurts us economically to let them stay here. It takes desperate measures to control these things and its time to take the measures
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Honey Island
no need to call names first off, but I will answer your questions

'One more thing, since you are so knowledgeable about hogs and deer, and you say “They destroy turkey nests, they can and will eat fawns, they compete with all of our NATIVE GAME”, it would be nice if you would provide factual verifiable evidence of your claims, and just because you heard someone say that isn’t proof of anything other than you can repeat something you heard.'

a pig will eat just about anything live or dead, you are just going to have to look that up yourself, if you have ever owned pigs you will know they are not very picky

'Most of those that walk many miles hunting in the Honey Island for years know a few things you didn’t mention. Such as in the Honey Island Swamp coyotes kill more fawns, eat more turkey eggs (along with the raccoons), and destroy more nest than do the hogs. So why don’t we see the LDWF doing anything to reduce the coyote population, which they have acknowledged is a greater threat to the deer and turkey than hogs are?'

and do you have 'factual verifiable evidence' of this or is this something you heard? but seriously have you ever tried to catch a coyote? They don't call em wiley for nothing. Please link me to anywhere where LDWF has acknowledged that coyotes are a greater threat to deer and turkey than hogs. IF you do that I will stop posting and will delete my account I am that confident you can't

'As for competing, deer are browsers and eat leaves, grass, twigs and yes, occasionally newly fallen acorns, and on your lease probably corn. Hogs are NOT browsers, and eat almost anything instead of leaves, and mostly eat rotten acorns that are plentiful. We know this because of what we see in the stomachs of these animals when harvested. That’s proof enough for us that hunt the Honey Island Swamp that the two are not competing for the same food sources.'

You are honestly saying hogs do not compete with deer? We can not go any further in this discussion if that is the case.

'You say that hogs are not native… do you know how long ago hogs and cattle were brought to this country? Did you know that love bugs, tallow trees, many dogs, cats, and even YOU are also not native to this country? Using your “not native” logic (opps… it’s not yours, you are just repeating what someone told you to think) the Native Americans would be as equally justified as the LDWF in hunting hogs if they were to get in helicopters and eradicate you and your people.'

thats a bit of a stretch there don't you think (the whole we are not native so LDWF should eradicate us? come on man)

I know all about non-native species, but there is a difference between non-native and invasives. Not all non-natives are invasive. Most plants you see at home depot are non-native, but not all are good competitors like chines tallowtree. Good competitors outcompete the native, just like pigs are doing. Pigs have been here a long time (since Hernando de Soto brought them in the 1500s). They don't move around much, so when they find a place with all the resources they need, they stick with that area. What happened though is that people started catching them and releasing them all over the place and when the pigs get there they multiply like crazy. Its people that did this, and it should be a huge fine to someone if they are caught transporting live feral pigs.
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isucrazy
i didn't mean that in a condescending way, sorry if it came off that way. If you have relatives that have property damage then you realize they are not welcomed.

You have to realize also that there is a huge safety concern if LDWF was to allow a 'no holds barred, let everybody do whatever they want on public lands to get rid of hogs'.
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Landowners
You missed the point honeyisland, the point is not who owns the land (you are correct, we do) but that landowners do not want feral pigs (or other invasives) on their property. We may own it, but they (LDWF/FWS) manage the lands and no land manager ever said 'man I wish we had some feral pigs on our lands to make it more valuable'. They are not good for this state, you have to realize that.

If you can't realize that pigs are bad then I can't help you
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eating hog
I'm eating an 'evil' hog now, and it is tasty...LOL
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isu
'no one is taking up for the hogs.they are a pain in the pocket book for many'

honeyisland is taking up for the hogs! haha
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Slick you miss the point of this thread
You are still trying to redirect the conversation away for the corrupt LDWF, who would rather use expensive and ineffective helicopters as opposed to extending the season on hogs, and changing the methods of taking them, both on public lands, which don’t cost them a dime.

We all know hogs cause problems, that was never what we were discussing, even though that’s what you are attempting to change this to be about. We are trying to make lemonade out of the lemons handed to us, or make a positive out of a negative situation.

Instead of wasting tax payer’s money on helicopter rides why not see the opportunity to get hunters engaged with the LDWF to resolve this challenge? All we’re saying is letting us help makes sense and doesn’t cost a dime, using helicopters doesn’t work and is expensive.
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oh brother
'You are still trying to redirect the conversation away for the corrupt LDWF'

corrupt? you used that word earlier when you were talking about LDWF and wanton waste and we established that wanton waste does not apply here (you had to redirect a few times and still do not acknowledge that you were wrong about it). Go to a meeting and express your concerns. They have them quarterly and welcome public comment. Be proactive and don't just post messages in all caps on a message board thinking something is going to change.

When you finish eating that pig you cooked tonight, make sure to eat it all, don't want you getting arrested for wanton waste lol!
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Huh
I bet the helicopters will be very effective.
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Unbelievable
I’ll simply leave it at “wow.'
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Funny
Sounds like someone is still a little soar on the backside that his activism backfired and cost him some hunting grounds. Fact is helicopters are very effective, in the right terrain, on a cost per kill basis.
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joke
hey HISB if your comments were for ldwf agents then why put them on here, email the wlf with your troubles, i am sure you have already done that and didn't get the response you were hoping for, other wise why would you come on here and cry about it and get upset cause the moderators here are trying to keep control of THEIR website not ldwf's, if you post something against the rules then you can't be upset with them if they remove it or edit it, your ranting here will get nothing accomplished
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Bad Math and Bad Attitude
LOL...have a greater appreciation for all those that passed math classes in school, and hopeing someone that thinks expensive helicopter rides are more cost effective than hunters doing the same thing for free doesn't work where I bank.

Don't know what activism is being referred to above, but all (hunters) know that the people that belong to the private shooting club called the Honey Island Shooting Range, together with their buddies at LDWF, were responsible for the retaliation of taking away hunting lands because hunters dared to nicely and peacefully ask the range to be respectful of hunters by reducing their hours of operation by a couple of hours to allow hunters to enjoy morning and evening deer hunting.

If that retaliation on the part of LDWF is what someone thinks is something to brag about then I would suggest that that person is simply demonstrating disrespect for hunters, and clearly shows a lack of any desire to peacefully cooperation with hunters that share the WMA with the range, which is the same behavior the people with the range have showed for many years throughout their continual fight with hunters.
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redirection
What does the Honey Island Shooting Range have to do with this? Redirection, redirection, redirection
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WVUE Fox 8 Story on Hogs
WVUE Fox 8 News is doing a story on the hog killing by LDWF tonight at 9:00 PM on WVUE Fox 8
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Tax Dollars
This doesn't sound like OUR tax dollars are being put to good use (as usual by government). Seems like a lot of wasted meat, is it not ?????????
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Can anyone explain how this decision was reached?
I spend a LOT of time hunting on the Pearl.

The lower third(where there is little to no trees) is where they probably will be shooting them from the air, since it kinda hard to shoot them in the woods when there are leaves on the trees.

Well, the lower third of it has almost zero deer because of the habitat!!!! Not because of pigs. It is swampy mush with no oaks anywhere and no shrubs in a lot of places. A lot of cane and marsh grass.

I would bet that atleast half of the hunters out there would love to shoot a pig OR a deer. So why kill off the pigs when they are the only large game animal that can thrive on the lower third of the PRWMA anyway.

On top of that, if you want to lower the numbers, why not let the hunters/tax payers do it and eat the meat???

HEY WLF, please take a poll ?!?!?
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better idea?
How about this???? Instead of using money for a chopper. Designate a weekend in March to be pig killing time for us locals... Game wardens can be at all the access points and check us from head to toe for deer parts. We all go in with whatever gun we want and shoot pigs. Bet we would kill more and it wouldn't cost anything to tax payers....
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Unbelievably Stupid!!
This is about the dumbest crap I have seen in a very long time. First of all, I have hunted the WMA since I was 12 years old. I am 42 now. I see a fraction of the hogs I used to see hunting the rivers. Especially since they turned dog hunters loose on them. This \'Hog Problem\' is just a bunch of sensationalized bull crap that people see on TV or hear repeated by some dummy who has never stepped foot in the swamp.

Secondly, like a previous post stated, I have heard first hand that they don\'t have the funds to maintain the trails or plant food plots. Really?? Yet there is money for a bunch of grown men with the mental maturity of a 12 year old to go play around with guns in helicopters?? UNBELIEVABLE!! So instead of charging $75 or $100 for a permit to hunt hogs during the off season, it will now cost hundreds, if not thousands of dollars, for every hog they dispatch and leave laying dead in the marsh.

This is just government waste at its finest. A bunch of good ol' boys having fun on our tax money. So remember. While you are at work trying to make a living and feed your family, these guys will having fun on your nickle.

From this day forward, every bullet I purchase will come via UPS and Fedex from somewhere else. Let the ammo tax go to funding game management somewhere else.

As for people who defend this, who knows. It is a public forum. People can say and claim anything they want. Maybe they don't even hunt, or they are a state employee just taking up for their own. And then there are people who just enjoy killing stuff. Doesn't matter what for, or if it is for food or not. They just get off on the killing aspect. The state puts a 'invasive species' label on feral hogs and all of a sudden that is justification in some peoples mind to do whatever they want. And take your 'saving the swamp' horse crap somewhere else. Want to save the swamp? Spend the weekend picking up trash!! You could fill a dumpster up in an hour with all the barrels, cans, plastic bottles, mattresses, TV's, ect. ect. The same people who are championing killing hogs to help the swamp probably throw their beer cans right out of the boat as they drain them. The most invasive species I have seen on the WMA is trashy humans.
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learned a lot from this thread
what i've learned from this thread

1.hogs are not invasive

2.they do not destroy marsh, only farmland

3. helicopters are ineffective for killing pigs

what else am I missing here that needs to be added?

with this mentality I think I should add that

4. 1+2=4
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Come on man
Seriously slickhead. Have you really hunted the PRWMA much? Have you hunted the marsh south of 90? The forest north of 90? South of 90 is a marsh. Hogs absolutely root around in the marshy, muddy soil for worms, roots, snakes...whatever. How much damage is that causing to a marsh? When the water rises and then falls, you can't even see where the hogs had been with the exception of their commonly walked trails. Alligator populations are off the chart south of 90, as is evident if you frog during the summer months, so hogs destroying alligator nest certainly doesn't seem to be a problem. If you can find the time to not just make anecdotal comments, let us know what kind of permanent 'damage' is being caused. And not just opinions. Surely if they are about to spend thousands killing hogs from the air, there is some legitimate study published somewhere on exactly what this damage is and why it is worth spending thousands to try and stop it.

And hunting them from the air in areas without forest is absolutely effective. And now instead of hunters like myself being able to enjoy hunting them and bringing home meat, we will come home empty handed.

And again. The attention being given to this 'problem' is silly. The paper mill in Bogalusa poisons the river and kills thousands of fish and other wildlife, and two weeks after it happens it is forgotten. But a hog roots a hole in the mud and it's time to sent guys with guns into the air to irradiate the horrible threat to the environment. And again, lets not discuss how unbelievably trashy the marsh is. There are still refrigerators from Katrina out there. But hey, picking that stuff up is not near as fun as shooting hogs from the air!! And of course, lets make sure and write tickets to anybody caught hunting hogs using something bigger than a 22 or BBB shot during closed deer season, because that is also really helping.
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Stancel
If you can't see that hogs are bad I can't help you. They cost us money (lots of money). They compete with all our native wildlife. They destroy crops, the destroy nests of any kind, etc. They need to be kept in check.

I have hunted all over the state and have visited many places with hogs, and I have yet to run into a landowner that WELCOMES hogs, they all lose somehow someway in the long run.
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yea
I didn't ask if you have hunted all over the state. I asked if you have hunted the PRWMA. I have. For about 30 years. Last I checked, no crops of corn and soybeans were being grown in the marshy bogs south of hwy 90, so that is irrelevant for purposes of this topic. And you keep saying LWF owns the land. Actually, we do. Our tax dollars paid for it. Our tax dollars go to up-keeping it. But pro big-government advocates often make the mistake of calling PUBLIC land the governments. Not sure when that became a normal practice.

Now, I will ask again. Are you aware of ANY official study showing the impact of hogs in this particular environment (low lying marshes). Not farms. Not private property. Not somewhere in Alabama or Texas. And are you actually defending the allocation of money for this particular purpose over the laundry list of other more pressing and important things that the money could be used for to beautify and improve THIS WMA. Not some other one. This one with its unkept trails, empty food plots for deer, and piles of trash lining its banks. All problems they say they have no budget to do anything about.

Also, can you not see what a waste it is to spend thousands of dollars to kill hogs when you could instead MAKE money by selling permits to the general public to hunt the land. And lets not get off track with poaching deer. If somebody wants to poach deer they don't need a hog season to do it. They will do it regardless. Except for a few isolated incidents, deer poaching is a problem on private land and in hunting clubs. Not on the Pearl River WMA.

And how do you explain the use of all this money to kill hogs, while also writing tickets for somebody having the wrong type of gun or bullet with them during squirrel and rabbit season. Don't bother answering that, because we know the reason. It is a way to write tickets and take more of our money. We are law enforcement's mobile ATM machines so they can generate money to do stuff like fly around and shoot hogs.

If you can't see how ignorant and wasteful this use of tax money is, well I can't really help you either.
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oh boy oh boy oh boy
'I didn't ask if you have hunted all over the state. I asked if you have hunted the PRWMA. I have. For about 30 years. Last I checked, no crops of corn and soybeans were being grown in the marshy bogs south of hwy 90, so that is irrelevant for purposes of this topic.'

because hogs only damage corn and soybeans right? Only corn and soybean farmers dislike pigs. All other landowners like pigs, especially the ones in the marsh since they do no damage to marshes, correct?

'And you keep saying LWF owns the land. Actually, we do. Our tax dollars paid for it. Our tax dollars go to up-keeping it. But pro big-government advocates often make the mistake of calling PUBLIC land the governments. Not sure when that became a normal practice.'

Already discussed this, you own the land, however it is managed by other agencies. The ultimate goal of management on these properties is hindered when pigs are on the landscape. No landowner (or land manager) wants pigs on their land

'Now, I will ask again. Are you aware of ANY official study showing the impact of hogs in this particular environment (low lying marshes).'

Plenty of sources out there, look it up (don't be afraid of that google thing). You can see feral pig damage to marshes all over Louisiana from SW to SE (I have seen it with my own two eyes).

'Not farms. Not private property. Not somewhere in Alabama or Texas.'

Because pig damage on private property is completely different from pig damage on public property correct? And pig damage on the coast of Texas, MS, Florida, is different from pig damage in Louisiana correct?

'And are you actually defending the allocation of money for this particular purpose over the laundry list of other more pressing and important things that the money could be used for to beautify and improve THIS WMA. Not some other one. This one with its unkept trails, empty food plots for deer, and piles of trash lining its banks. All problems they say they have no budget to do anything about.'

I am just defending getting rid of pigs in any way shape or form, and helicopters (despite HoneyIslandBatman's posts) are very effective in controlling pig populations.

'Also, can you not see what a waste it is to spend thousands of dollars to kill hogs when you could instead MAKE money by selling permits to the general public to hunt the land'

Every landowner LOSES money when pigs are present. Even if you did charge a permit for lets say 100 people paid 100 bucks for a permit, you have made what $10,000 which still doesn't make up for the cost of the damage that pigs cause (I don't think you understand the monetary damage these things do).

What if this was not state folks doing this and say it was another agency say federal? What if hmmmmm
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did anyone read the news release?
Here is the actual news release and tells you exactly why this is going on and why they are doing it at this time of year:

'The purpose of the aerial population control with firearms is to reduce the feral hog numbers on both WMAs and subsequently reduce the habitat destruction. Damage to wildlife management areas and private property in recent years has increased as the feral hog population in Louisiana has increased.

Hog harvest by hunters on WMAs during hunting seasons has not been successful in keeping hog populations under control. The March timeframe was chosen since fall/winter hunting seasons will have concluded and turkey season will not have begun yet on Sherburne or Pearl River WMA. Additionally, the marsh grass and trees will not have spring foliage, enabling helicopter crews to spot hogs.'
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Just a few comments from previous posts
Quote from above..
\'\'\'From this day forward, every bullet I purchase will come via UPS and Fedex from somewhere else. Let the ammo tax go to funding game management somewhere else\'\'\'

Buying bullets on-line via UPS or Fed ex etc will not affect the revenue that the state receives. It\\\'s a federal excise tax (Pittman-Robertson) and the the state gets the same amount regardless where the ammunition was purchased. The only one that might be hurt by doing that is local or parish government.

Until the state prohibits transport of live feral hogs I doubt things will improve much.

The best thing for the land/environment would be a total eradication of feral hogs, however there are too many people who really don\\\'t want to see the hogs go away because they enjoy the sport of hunting them.

It\\\'s unfortunate that people want to keep them around just so they have something to shoot.
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LDWF Gone Wild
The LDWF’s helicopter joy ride, at taxpayer expense, to kill “300” hogs today ended up netting 21, that’s right, all of 21 hogs being killed. That’s as many hogs as a good team of dogs with a good handler can catch in one day, at no cost to the taxpayers. This number matches what the locals have been saying all along, that the hog population is down this year from previous years. It’s unfortunate that it cost us taxpayers so much money to be proven correct in the end. Hogs are not the problem in our WMA, the out of control LDWF is the real problem. Join us on our Facebook page, “Save Our WMA”
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Biologist Looking for a Job
So the LDWF had numerous enforcement agents, staff biologists, airboats in the water, and more out for this now proven least productive method of reducing the hog population, along with the expense of the helicopter, and all they “managed” to do was kill 21 hogs… it would be laughable if it weren’t taxpayers money being wasted. This was a perfect example of LDWF getting their “facts” wrong again, but what can you expect from them when they based the need for this entire operation on the say so of a LDWF biologist, who just “thought” there were too many hogs. If I were the LDWF biologist that was over the PRWMA, and I just cost my agency all this money and embarrassment I’d be brushing up my resume…LOL You’ve heard of “girls gone wild” this is “government gone wild”.
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21 Hogs
So 21 hogs are (were) destroying the coast along Pearl River. Guess the coast has been saved. Money well spent,,,,,,,,,, Slick, any comments?
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Don't argue with slick head
He is from Monroe but has all the answers to save all of S.E. Louisiana's problems from hogs and nutria to freshwater diversions and pine beetles. He has a new book coming out called 'You don't know ish about your own region'. It contains wonderful second hand information given to him through press releases and his own experiences 300 miles away. Bottom line is that all other private land has declared war on hogs at all cost even using night permits to maximize harvest potential. But the WMA will not allow extended season because they are worried a someone will take other wildlife out of season. And instead chew up senseless man hours and fuel flying around in a helicopter. 21 pigs? That is senseless. With three gestation periods a year and up to 8 per littler that will be replaced by one or two sows in a year. Broaden the caliber rifles extend the season. Let the dog guys run them all summer. The hogs have been a problem since I was a kid so this is no news story. If an outlaw wants to take a deer out of season then deal with that as it comes along. Most of the hog hunters also want a crack at a decent deer in the fall so it would more than likely be self policed and most outlaws would have to hide from the wardens and peers.
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Hog count
Did they say how many were killed at each wma or just the total count? They were supposed to hunt sherbourn and prwma also on the same day. It probably was 1 boar, 2 sows and 18 ten pound pigs.
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Push_ Pole_Prov is Spot On
Your response to “Slickhead” is spot on, and your observations are more than well grounded. So I won’t try to improve on what you wrote, expect to validate the portion where you referred to “self police”. The fact is that most hunting violators that are caught by LDWF Enforcement in the PRWMA (don’t know about Monroe as I don’t live there) are caught because of the efforts of other hunters that have reported said violations to the game wardens.

Personally I, like so many of my fellow hunters, have the cell phone numbers of several of the GW’s with LDWF, and they have mine/ours. We call each other from time to time, and have an outstanding relationship that works well to keep poaching down, and outlaws from screwing up our WMA. We’ve also been called upon to aid in rescue efforts when needed, like finding lost hunters.

In conclusion, you are spot on, as law abiding respectful hunters are of great assistance to the LDWF Enforcement in policing our WMA.

PS Keep up the good postings, love reading them
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y'all got it figured out
Actually, I live south of I-10 but you all have it figured out. I wonder if any of you have ever left your zipcode and seen the forest and not just the trees. A pig in north La, south La, Texas, Mississippi, Florida, etc. is all the same, they all do damage to the environment and need to be taken out. Pearl River hogs are not anything different.
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Update on the helo an hogs
Has anyone heard what the final report on the kill on the different refuges that was supposed to go on last week with the helo hunters? Checked the web-site for wlf and there is no mention of it. Maybe they are embarrased with the results of this great problem they developed.
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MUST WATCH YOUTUBE VIDEO ABOUT THIS SUBJECT
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C35Z_Z1bTG8
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