ive been told of old river for good gar for bowfising and crappie. never for cats. I will try. Id have to look up piere part. how far. as for the lake I will def look into it. soon as boat gets back from shop its on!!! Back home I used no more than 30 jugs,with live spot,mudshad,ly caught bluecats,cownose rays,rockfish(stripers) blue fish,and snakeheads. how does live line brehm work for yalls cats?