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June 21 Manchac Results

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redshad12
June 23, 2014 at 9:26am
We had 16 boats come out and fish out of North pass. We paid out 4 places, and 2 places big bass. Here are the results:
Kyle & Dylan Hills - 5 fish for 15.24 lbs
Derrick Patenostro & Darren Welch - 5 fish for 9.74 lbs
Ronald Pierre & Will Mattei - 5 fish for 6.73 lbs
Alan Broadway & Todd Stein - 4 fish for 6.49 lbs
JP & Justin Bond - 5 fish for 6.38 lbs
Scott Andrews & Ricky Benitez - 5 fish for 6.04 lbs
Cody & Johnny Law - 3 fish for 4.36 lbs
Vance Law & Kevin Dorhauer - 2 fish for 1.91 lbs
Tommy Law - 1 fish for 1.65 lbs
Rodney & Jeremy Dutreix - 1 fish for 1.10 lbs

Big Bass:
Kyle & Dylan Hills - 4.99 lbs
Cody & Johnny Law - 2.46 lbs
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   Prohound
June 28, 2014 at 11:16am
Kyle Hills is a mad man on the local Bass Circuits, someone needs to sponser him and send him to the next level. If you want to keep up with this young mans wins check out Northshorefishingreport and you can see how he dominates the Bass Circuits. Congrats to this young man, as he continues to wreak Havoc on us local weekend anglers.
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   OldBass1965
June 28, 2014 at 10:59pm
im sorry to say but i do not agree with you on that one, and i believe a lot of other anglers feel the same way that fish those tournaments. i use to fish tournaments but had to stop due to recent health issues. i still keep up with them a lot and talk to a lot of anglers that fish those same tournaments through the friendship i built with them over the years. its sad to say there have been a lot of controversy behind his recent streak of wins. especially because these tournaments are mainly based on the honor system. everything i have heard about him was very negative a few words like cheating, thief and fish stashing are being thrown around. i stopped in on my way to the south shore and was present for the last tournament weigh in and at least 3 out of his 5 fish were dead when he released them. they were belly up floating around the launch, and didnt look to be in the best of shape when he put them on the scales. the weigh master had to hold other competitors bass down from jumping around because they were so lively and in great shape just so he could weigh them in. i didnt even fish the tournament and this is was i noticed and heard while just passing through to say hi to a few of the anglers i knew.
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   MARRERODUCKMAN
June 29, 2014 at 8:48am
That's a nice limit for the Manchac area. Were they allowed to run to Delacroix for this tournament?
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   BRFrogMan09
June 29, 2014 at 2:56pm
I fish that area frequently and those types of weights for any tournament in that area this time of year is almost unheard of. 7 to 10 lbs should be money in that area right now, but 15+ lbs?.....I can see close to those weights being brought in during the spring when bass are spawning, but not so much during the middle of the summer. Bags during the spring in that area range from 10 to 12 lbs on a good day when bass are heaviest. I think just under 10 lbs took the Strawberry Fest and around the same for the Tiffany Thomas this year. Previous Carters tournaments had around the same weights too in the 10lb range. I fished this tournament and I don't believe any anglers ran to Delecroix.
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   redshad12
June 30, 2014 at 8:08am
I do agree that 15+ pounds is extremely out of the ordinary for that area. I would expect the 9 lbs range to win most every time this time of year over there. It's a pretty small, cheap tournament and like someone said.. it is mostly ran on the honor system. I check the live-wells and the fish have to be alive (gills moving / not stiff) to weigh in. That's really all I can do to assure fairness. The rest is up to us fishermen to just be honest. That's one of the reasons I try to keep the money and payout low. I don't wanna accuse anyone of anything so I'm going to give him the benefit of the doubt until there is factual proof / evidence of cheating or fish stashing or anything else. I really hope he's just good / lucky and not sacrificing his integrity over a few bucks. Anyway, in my eyes right now he's got to be 'innocent until proven guilty'. Oh, and there are no limits to where you fish as long as you can get there in your boat from the Manchac launch. Although, it would've been difficult to go too far as the lakes were pretty rough if I can remember right.
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   MARRERODUCKMAN
June 30, 2014 at 9:00am
You are exactly right BRFrogman. I see you know the characteristics of that area also.I am trying to give them the benefit of the doubt. I have been around the tournament scene for quite a few years also and that is the biggest limit I have ever seen or heard of from that area. If those fish were caught from that area then congrats to them. That's why I asking if you could run to Delacroix for the tournament. And redshad12 you correct, a 15+ pound stringer is extremely out of the ordinary for that area.
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   Prohound
June 30, 2014 at 9:47am
Where did he finish in the Strawberry festival tournament? How about the Tiffinay Thomas Tournament? He fishes a lot of tournaments, so maybe that's why it seems like he wins so much because he fishes 5 times the tournaments we do. I know some clubs have put a rider along with him and he still finished in the money. Are the riders the clubs have put with him cheating also?

I say let's give the man credit, there are natural born baseball and football players born all the time. This might be a gift from God, and he truly understands the fish and can put the puzzle together faster than us.

Let's not be so quick to say someone cheats because we are not winning. He is one tough SOB on the water, and all I know is you better catch them to beat him.
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   redfish19
June 30, 2014 at 10:09am
Just curious, how would you get from north pass to Delacroix?? lol unless ur talking all the way through lake borne, through mr go, into hope dale/Reggio and then cutting up?? That's a lonnnng ride unless I'm missing something??
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   Bass master 1989
June 30, 2014 at 10:29am
OldBass1965, I too was at that weigh in but you aren't providing accurate info. I saw 3 people weigh in dead fish and talked to another angler who didn't weigh that said his died. I know for a fact kyle had 2 dead fish confirming with the tournament director, which also had a dead fish. It's a shame you say you heard he stashes fish and cheats yet there is no proof. If your an old timer I'm sure there has been talk of others cheating before, give the boy some credit instead of posting something off what you heard, especially when there is no proof. As prohound said, he has had people stuck in his boat and he still places. So unless these random people are cheating too, have respect for this kid and try to do positive for a kids name who works hard and whom I've seen on water practicing to become as good as he is.
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   pengerran
June 30, 2014 at 10:33am
Yes he did finish 3rd I think with a rider. I could be mistaken but that was the 1st one he did not win in 6 months and the only one he did not have a limit in also. That was with a Hail Mary fish at ramp in last 10 mins. Like everyone else I'm just stating this as I remember. I think he won next couple after that tho. It must be ssumed he is legit unless proven otherwise. This 23 year old phenom also is a big bass specialist. The bigger the tournament the bigger the bass it seems. I'm sure he's planning on stepping it up in the future to fishing Media and Bass an Bucks as his next stepping stone. With the ablity he has shown to catch limits when the rest only have 2 or 3 fish and his skill at getting that key big bite under pressure he could fund the entire season dues on his 1st tournament. By his 2nd he'd be making money. Why win $100 when you can win $1,200? He has prob caught more bass over 4 lbs in tournaments then the rest of us combined the last 2 years. All I can say to his success is 'Wow!!! Unbelievable'.
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   Bass master 1989
June 30, 2014 at 10:41am
Redshad12, BRFrogMan09, are you aware of the thurs evening tourneys which are 3 hours? Recently they have had over 12lbs win twice a 10 and 9 pound stringer brought in with big fish last week 4.59 lbs. it's very well common to bring in those types of amounts of weights brought to scales, especially after the post spawn is done. Delecoix? Why the heck would someone run to there and waste all that gas. If y'all aren't aware, tangi river hold big bass with an 8lb fish being caught in past. I agree 15lbs is a lot but as I said before, instead of questioning someone give them credit, bass fishing is about respect, honesty, and fun, and lately it seems like there is so much drama with it. People will always want to be jealous and talk while spreading rumors hurting the name of others. It's a shame, but good tourney red shad 12, I wasn't able to attend this past one but will be there in future.
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   redshad12
June 30, 2014 at 10:42am
Bassmaster I agree with you. I say give him credit and the benefit of the doubt until factually proven otherwise. But I think you're referring to a different tournament where you saw 3 people weigh dead fish. I put on the tournaments out of Manchac and there were no dead fish weighed in. Most everyones fish was very active besides kyles and maybe 1 more.. But the gills were still moving so they were able to be weighed.
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   Bass master 1989
June 30, 2014 at 11:11am
Redshad12 the tourney I was referring to was the tourney bassfishing1965 was talking about. At that tourney two of kyles fish was dead as well as one of the winners fish ad third places fish which was the director. Another fisherman whom had a bad day said his only fish had died. Not sure why but everyone seemed to not have active fish. My point is bass1965 seems to misrepresent the info making Kyle look bad and is basing info off what he heard. At weigh in Kyle showed multiple people he had a smaller than usual live well and was having issues keeping fish alive. Another point if you had 15 pounds in a live well, wouldn\'t you presume there wasn\'t much room and having that many fish crammed could possibly lead to them having less oxygen. I\'ve personally had issues having multiple fish in a live well, still it\'s wrong to call or try to point someone out. All I can say is people don\'t know that he fishes more tourneys than anyone around, I don\'t see how the boy would cheat having a family and working in the plants. I'm not trying to be rude, I\'m just pointing out that people should respect others until proven guilty. I constantly read how Charles Dozat and mark mohr constantly win on the pearl river in bigger money tourneys, but I feel they are good and should be respected as well
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   pengerran
June 30, 2014 at 11:57am
Maybe I'm confused but I think oldbass is talking about the tournament at the top of the thread. redshad was the director for that one. I can understand the confusion tho. Kyle has won so many who can keep track? Just a thought, does anyone feel this is going to or is now keeping anyone from fishing the tournaments on the Northshore?
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   Calvin Hills
June 30, 2014 at 12:18pm
Well it's nice to see all of you recognize the name . Thank you to those who are not throwing out false accusations as I assure you they are FALSE! As for those of you who are ,well it's obvious that I've already got you beaten as far as the mental aspect of tournament fishing goes.....
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   Prohound
June 30, 2014 at 12:20pm
Pengerran, I wasn't winning before, so it's not going to stop me from fishing them. I'm good at losing! I'll continue to donate my money, but I'm sure there are some who are not fishing because of Kyle. I think most of those were in the same boat as me, they were not winning either! They have an excuse to not fish now!
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   Bass master 1989
June 30, 2014 at 12:30pm
He didn't had any dead fish at the tourney at top of thread but do you see what I mean, his false accusations have confused people
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   pengerran
June 30, 2014 at 1:24pm
redshad said gills were still barely moving so in theory they were alive for penalty purpose. If you poke 'em and gills move they alive. After they in water they may float belly up and I think that is why he said dead. Kyle you are right, you are in everyones head and your name is becoming known far and wide. When you start fishing bigger trails I'm sure you will have the same success. Getting into it at such an early age and having this success is just a stepping stone. Go regional then go bigger once you have gotten the same success. No reason to be satisfied with winning $100 pots when you clearly have the skills to figure them out anywhere. Win one or even place in top 3 and you can fund the next 2 or 3. As the saying goes 'go big or go home' I'm sure I'll be seeing you on the Media and Bass N Bucks trails soon.
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   Bass master 1989
June 30, 2014 at 2:19pm
I see what your saying, it makes sense now, I still could see how having that many pounds in a smaller live well could be like that, esp since competition didn't have many fish resulting in more space in regards to the weight. But still morale is to not spread rumors with no proof, it creates the drama. Thanks for points that out to me, I mistaken what he was saying for another tourney. Btw I hate losing too but one day hard work and effort will pay off
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   MARRERODUCKMAN
June 30, 2014 at 2:25pm
Manchac to Delacroix is not a hard run if its not too windy. Key word is wind. On a day like today it would be easy. You don't think those guys that catch 15 to 20 pound bags for the Pearl River tournaments are catching all of them in the Pearl do you? Sure once in a while they do, but it's not very typical. Why run from Manchac to Delacroix you ask? That's like saying why run from Westwego to Venice. 8 times out of 10 the people running to Venice are going to kick your butt. I've seen people run from Morgan City to Westwego for tournaments when Lake Cataouatche was in it's prime. You would be surprised what some people would do to win.
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   pintaildrake09
June 30, 2014 at 3:25pm
So lemme get this straight. He works a full time job in the plants and has a family. He fishes a ton of tourneys and also has time to go to different areas to stock up since these areas don't hold any big fish? Wow that's a busy week lol. You people throwing out false accusations are pathetic. Kyles been fishing his whole life, yes people he's really that good. Learn to take a loss a little better and maybe learn from it. But throwing out cheating,stocking, yadayada and trying to ruin his name is bullshit. Guess it sucks to suck.
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   pengerran
June 30, 2014 at 3:26pm
Yes having a reasonable size sack of fish in live wells during summer may be tough, everyone has fish die from time to time including me. If the fish was stressed for some reason or not healthy they would be more prone to die (swallowed hook, long fight or other things). I think Kyle has a 20 ft boat so keeping 15 lbs of healthy fish alive in that size boat shouldn't be tough. There are lots of articles and videos about fish care out there as well as additives for use in calming and treating injured fish, just got to take the time to learn about it. One big thing that hardly anyone does is clean them out once in awhile, fish release a lot of toxins and waste during a day in a livewell. I've lost a lot of money by a couple ozs, half a lb will kill you. Then again thinking back most of Kyle's wins have been by pounds, not ozs so none of that matters.
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   redshad12
June 30, 2014 at 3:51pm
Pintail, I believe there were only 1 or maybe 2 on here that are suspecting him of cheating, and no one has straight up accused him of it. Of the few that suspect the cheating there was mainly just mention of hear-say and what they hear from 'other anglers'. I believe most commenting on here are of the same opinion as me: We have no grounds to suspect or accuse anyone of anything. His live-wells were checked, all his fish were in line with the rules at weigh in just like everyone elses. I have heard about suspicions that other anglers have about him, but all that is meaningless. As I said earlier... Gotta give him credit, he was on em that day. They do have areas within a reasonable boat ride that hold really nice fish. Tangi, T-funky, Tickfaw all hold some good fish. I think we should let this go and let him enjoy his success without the drama surrounding it. Unless there is tangible proof / evidence, it shouldn't even be brought up. Not for these cheap, just for fun tournaments anyway. The tourneys I put on at Manchac have been pretty successful and it's growing pretty fast. I hope this doen't dissuade anyone from coming out and having some fun, and I hope Kyle continues to try to fish these tournaments.
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   MARRERODUCKMAN
June 30, 2014 at 4:00pm
Pintaildrake09 what are you talking about? Nobody said he went to another area to stock up on fish.He won no matter where he fished. I was curious if you were able to run there.
Seeing a 15 lb bag is extremely rare for that area. I'm not saying it couldn't be done. That nice kicker they had definitely makes it possible.
And yes you can fish Delacroix for this tournament. So if he did or didn't go to Delacroix doesn't matter. I have a full time job and a family too. I guess I can't fish a tournament in Manchac and run somewhere else because I have a job and a family. That makes no sense whatsoever. The guys that fish the Pearl river circuit run to Delacroix all the time. Nothing wrong with going to a different area if the tournament boundaries allow it.
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   BRFrogMan09
June 30, 2014 at 4:35pm
Sure I agree with you all on giving credit where credit is due. All I was saying is 15+lbs is very rare in that area this time of year. 'almost unheard of.' I do not mean this in a negative way at all but, At the same time when you have that much controversy piling up around this one angler, and as many people that feel the same way about one this one guy. Then something just isnt adding up. I'm not saying weather he is cheating or not, but if he is then he has to know that he is not just cheating in a small competition but he is also breaking the law, through Theft by Deception, because money is involved. This can take on criminal charges if he in fact cheating. If not congrats to him on his incredible winning streak, its an amazing feat. Shake it off and keep fishing.
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   redfish19
June 30, 2014 at 4:36pm
I kno people make runs, but if that wind changes n gets bad in the lake you gonna be SOL in a bass boat commin back lol
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   Bass master 1989
June 30, 2014 at 5:06pm
What doesn't add up is why someone who went to college, again is a honest family man, and works full time would cheat.. Like I said it's a shame that once somebody spreads a rumor how far it will go.. It don't make sense for someone who works a lot to go catch fish, go drive and use all that gas to put fish out to only win 100$$... And again, I know I couldn't fish everyday and catch that many pounds because honestly I don't know everything and make mistakes, I'm sure everyone does including Kyle. Like I said he fishes multiple tournies a week so again where and how would he be cheating. The prob is like prohound said, people have all these fancy boats and don't fish at all until a tourney and then lose and falsely accuse another person of cheating. There is so much people don't know. I mean how many people was fishing a certain tourney. I know some of the winter month tournies only had 10 boats so I could see him going on a run of wins and he had multiple partners so they must be cheaters too?? It's a shame the drama people spreading lies, cuz look what they created, you yourself don't know the truth and go by hear say, it's a shame people don't believe someone is that good. Innocent until proven guilty, you'd think if someone truely believed he was cheating they would follow him, and again I've yet to hear someone say something to his face only behind his back. So who do we believe, two faced people, or a honest kid who loves fishing more than most of us....
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   Prohound
June 30, 2014 at 5:12pm
Bassmaster, if the director checked Kyles livewells in that tournament then he should have checked everyone's! Was the the River Champ Tournament?
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   pengerran
June 30, 2014 at 5:15pm
Brfrogman is right. Nobody has caught him cheating. What he has done in this area has never been done before, not just the winning streak but the big fish he can catch seemly on demand when he needs to. Streaks end in time or as pintail said he really 'yes people he really is THAT good'. I know everyone hopes it is on the up and up and wants him to be that good. Very few people I fished against or with mind getting an a$$ kicking by a good stick. If he is cheating then in time they all get caught. When people are that good they get tired of the small stuff, why fish for $100 when you can fish for $1,000 or $10,000. The Basin isn't that much of a longer drive than the Pearl is so that isn't a factor. We are lucky enough to live in a tournament rich region with good money to win by a good fisherman. When he steps up to bigger stuff and has success and passes a couple polygraphs or either he dosen't do good because he really isn't that good. Either way it will work itself out in time. I just hope that this doesn't bring out cheaters who think it is the way to win. Tournaments are about who is the best that day and honesty is the key to it. I could never cheat to win anything and look myself in the mirror or look anyone in the eye knowing that cheating is the only way I could win. We all can only hope everyone else that fishes against us feels the same.
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   Prohound
June 30, 2014 at 5:22pm
I have a question for everyone posting and those reading and not posting. If you had to vote 'YES' or 'NO' for Kyle to be a member of your club, what would you vote?
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   MARRERODUCKMAN
June 30, 2014 at 5:26pm
Yeah you are right redfish19. You would definitely have to pick your days. Personally I wouldn't do it from Manchac to Delacroix either. Lake P. can definitely get nasty in a hurry. Doesn't take much over a 10 mph wind to do it either on a lake that size. However I do know some people that would do it with the right amount of money involved.
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   BRFrogMan09
June 30, 2014 at 5:31pm
no..... there is too much controversy going on and that would have a very negative impact on a club. i only fished against him once and from what everyone has said id have to decline being in a club with him.
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   OldBass1965
June 30, 2014 at 5:39pm
No. The vote is no for me also. You have to think about the whole club and the negative attention that is involved with one certain member. Having that much negative attention will take away from other members having fun. After all fun and enjoying the outdoors is what its all about.
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   Bass master 1989
June 30, 2014 at 5:42pm
I agree with what you are saying, it has been unheard of, but at same time I don't believe anyone gives the boy credit... he has been king of tchefuncte in my opinnion, and after just checking the results off all tournies on northshorefishingreport I've noticed he had been dominant of tchfuntche but has been beaten on other rivers... Hmm wouldn't he cheat on every river instead of just one... He is that good on tchfuntche because of hard work. I live near the river and during the winter in 25 degree weather I always seen his trailer out there. I believe again there are too many two faced people who realize they don't put in the effort to get better and assume they might as well accuse others. It gets old, he is 23 and just had a kid, he may like fishing our waters ESP since he grew up on them. I'm sure he will eventually go fish bigger tournies but maybe he rather be with his family and earn money for his family since he has a good job making good money. I saw he finished 4th, out of the money. Also saw where he finished 4th on lock one a few weeks ago. Seems he finished high but I didn't see where he won every tourney, actually I think he has finished 2nd twice and third in past few tchfuntche tournies so there is proof that he is consistent and at same time is beatable, and can I ask a question, don't everyone think it's wrong that people talk behind his back but can't say anything to his face, I truely wonder why that is? Nobody has a answer
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   pengerran
June 30, 2014 at 5:46pm
My screen name says who I am. Frogman is right. I think numbers have dropped on the river tournies. Right or wrong if Kyle was in a club people would stay away. There is already talk of next year clubs going to dues and members being voted in. Some would still join and fish it sure but it wouldn't be a strong club or draw good. Too much baggage. Some will agree some won't. 'NO'
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   Bass master 1989
June 30, 2014 at 5:48pm
There is only controversy because of people stirring drama. As stated he has proven to finish high in a tourney with someone in his boat, plus where is the proof. But if people say no it's because they don't have respect for anything, it truely is wrong that nobody stands up, I hope one of y'all would say that to his face. No behind is back oldbass1965.. I figured the old generation would understand that
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   pengerran
June 30, 2014 at 6:08pm
Bass Master I'm not talking fishing the Bend or Rayborn in $1000 entry deals. The Basin is only a few more miles for us then the Pearl. As far as money Kyle has kicked my butt enough to prove he is better than me and I have made money over there in teams and have done respectable in the singles. I only started fishing that area this year. Only started on the Northshore 2 years ago. If I can do respectable then Kyle being a better fisherman than me will make money for his family and only be gone another hour and a half. It ain't gambling when you good. I know he's on the river must ever Fri and Sat or somewhere fishing. I respect hard work because I too put in every chance I can get to fish and learn. Mist weeks that is only one day a week two if I'm lucky so rain, shine snow or anything else I'm going.
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   Calvin Hills
June 30, 2014 at 6:25pm
2014 Strawberry Fest tourney , my partner(Elvis Black) and I finished took second and big fish with 4 fish that went 9.3 lbs I believe 3 oz behind 1st but as shallow as you are you probably don't recall the conditions of the rivers that day....
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   Bass master 1989
June 30, 2014 at 6:30pm
Question if you was in kyles position, how would you feel? Honestly if you was only one being checked before a tourney wouldn't you say those tournies aren't being done fairly.. I think everyone thinks people cheat, like I said esp Charles dozart, I mean I've seen where he always I mean always places on the pearl and lock one, should we accuse him of cheating? I think the run they have had in unbelievable if you ask me, and those tournies have big bucks involved so would you vote yes to him. Personally I would be more aware of that, it's wierd people only accuse certain people. Look Kyle might venture over to the bassin, but if you loved a area wouldn't you fish every tourney there. If you knew a river to the T wouldn't you think you'd have the confidence you could win them all, he's proved to be dominant on his home water and solid elsewhere. Like I stated above he has been beaten lately, but what's a shame is people like y'all above whom don't know him or have caught him in the act would say no. It's a shame people won't stand up for him. I saw another angler years ago who was that good and he quit because people gave him a bad name even thought he passed tests. Y'all have the right to your own opinnon but even if Kyle didn't fish anymore, most of the people would look for the next person to say cheats, you know I'm right about that.
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   OldBass1965
June 30, 2014 at 6:37pm
There was reason behind the club putting someone in the boat with him. Members thought he was cheating, plain and simple. It didnt prove anything that he still squeeked by in that tournament when he only brought in 3 line burners. All other tournaments before and after he was bringing in 10 lb bags with a 5 lb kicker every time. Someone rides with you and its the only tournament you fail to catch a limit in. Like that one guy said in the post earlier he made a hail mary at the end to catch his 3rd keeper at the launch when he brought in a 5 bass limit with kicker every other time. That would still raise some eye brows. Is that just coincidence, doubtful because a lot of anglers feel the same way. All I am saying is that clubs would be crazy to let someone like him join with all of the controversy hovering around him. Someone asked for us readers to vote and they have it. My vote is still no.........sorry
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   Bass master 1989
June 30, 2014 at 6:45pm
Truth is strong word.... Why do people spread stuff they don't know is true, does anyone else think that is right? I don't and personally it makes other look bad... This whole post has been started by hear say and accusations that aren't true and there has been instances where proven he hasn't cheated like someone was in the boat.. He placed, didn't win but what were the conditions, all this is bases off opinnion and I would think anyone was in his shoes they would want respect as well. We fish because we love it, and I feel people should learn to not be two faced. If you believe he cheats say it to his face at weigh in, not over the Internet, that is not the place to spread lies, don't we teach our children that?
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   OldBass1965
June 30, 2014 at 6:51pm
And even your own fishing partner went around saying how you only caught 2 fish during those 2 tournaments and it seemed fishy when you are known for catching 5 studs every time. Your absolutely right, Fishy Fishy
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   Bass master 1989
June 30, 2014 at 6:54pm
Do you have the results off hand off previous tourneys, or are you going off hear say again as you have proven before to do and say. If I recall many didn't have fish that day and like I sad do you know conditions, wouldn't you be nervous being it was classic, and the fact that he caught a fish right before weigh in shows he is good under pressure. If you think he cheats why don't you inform him to his face? Again he fishes so many tournies so he does win a lot, again I looked at results online and he had partners for some of those tournies, so are they cheating too?? I see your a good reader so answer other questions too, and have proof of what he did because all I hear is say so..
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   Calvin Hills
June 30, 2014 at 6:55pm
Hey what's your name plz, I'd like to add you to Facebook or maybe partner up sometime lol, I see your screen name is 'pengerran' but that tells me nothing.my guess is that you're one of the ones with a fancy boat dual power poles and all that other good stuff, but still can't seem to catch fish, just my guess. Please correct me if I'm wrong...by the way , it's not about the money, it's about the adrenaline rush of beating the competition so why pay an entry fee of an excess of $200 when I can get the same fix from beating you out of 20 bucks??!!
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   pintaildrake09
June 30, 2014 at 6:57pm
What i was getting at is that they are saying 15lbs is out of ordinary and the few accusing that its odd hes winning so much. If they are saying he cant catch that kind of a bag for a tourney then he couldnt stock that up either for tourneys. Which means hed have to travel to get those fish. Highly doubt a man with a full time job, family, and fishing tourneys has that kind of time.
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   Bass master 1989
June 30, 2014 at 7:02pm
What's your real name? When fishing in tourneys don't we all know being in back or front of boat makes a difference, weather was horrible and water was high, your true story just proves he can catch fish in a tourney lol, not a smart old timer if you ask me
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   Calvin Hills
June 30, 2014 at 7:02pm
Or what about you'oldbass1965' , wouldn't you like to partner up and land in the money sometime? All I'd need is a name to sent you an invite...........
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   pengerran
June 30, 2014 at 7:21pm
Patrick Engerran. Sorry Kyle, I was mistaken you knew my name, which you probably did from the duel power pole referance. I think I'm the only one with them. Fancy boat? Thanks. I worked long and hard far it. Remember I just got it. Yours was bigger till Feb Lol!! Can't seem to catch fish? I have my days, good and bad. I do generally seem to be around the top. Sometimes at it sometimes not. That's bass fishing. Sure, we could partner up in my fancy boat anytime u want. I'm quite proud of it. Work 55 to 60 and on call 24/7 to get it after many years of dreaming. You name the team tourny and we will do it. Although from your comments about can't seem to ever catch fish I gather you will be at a disadvantage with me as your partner?
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   Calvin Hills
June 30, 2014 at 7:29pm
Never would have guessed you would be one of the accusers , I remember when I first started fishin the club you were in. Yea you were a beast on the river, one of the ones that 'I worried about' so to say......
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   pengerran
June 30, 2014 at 7:29pm
Trust me Kyle. Winning five figures in a 100 boat field is a bigger rush. Going 2 hours and winning $2,000 in a 75 boat field when half call it their home lake is a bigger rush. Blasting off in a 140+ boat field for 10k when u think u have an honest chance at it is a bigger rush. Once you feel that feeling fruit jars want even be a enough to raise your pulse. It's like taking your wife bream fishing.
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   pengerran
June 30, 2014 at 7:43pm
Read back thru. Never said u did. Just lot of baggage. I also said everyone I fish with wants you to be that good. You did call me a has been tho. In a club I'm afraid people would stay away. I have respect for anyone that works hard to be great. Fishing is the one thing that gets me thru bad days next to my wife. I want you to be THAT good. As I also said you kicked my many a time. We need to put all this crap to rest and get back to good draws on the river and everywhere else. You know I am near the top most days wherever I fish. Here, Ms or Natchez. Nobody should have to prove they aren't cheating. I have been accussed of it before, mostly it's when I go to other peoples home water and win. If you want to partner up and fish local teams then we will for a while. Not forever. If you think I'm doing this because I want to win your wrong. I can do that by myself. You catch them I'll sing your praise. You don't then you don't. I repeat. Most of what is said by everyone is 'I hope he is that good'. People want you to and it sucks you need to prove it. And no I'm not taking my boat up the Tangi very far past Lee's.
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   Prohound
June 30, 2014 at 8:02pm
Patrick and Kyle, I think the world of both of you. Please do not partner up and fish, we really wouldn't have a chance then.

That Elvis guy can't even win with Kyle, I know for a fact that cat is good at losing. If he wins 1 time I'm going to accuse him of cheating. What kind of name is 'Elvis'? The KING of losing!

Elvis, I love you too!
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   Calvin Hills
June 30, 2014 at 8:02pm
Well if you ask me, fishing is more of a mental game than physical , I've fished my home waters ( tickfaw, tangi, tchfunche) my whole life , but didn't start tournament fishing until I had the confidence to win , it has taken me years to learn what I know about them. So for me to pay more for an entry fee to fish somewhere I'm completely unfamiliar with means I would have to put forth more money, travel time ect., as a married man with three children ,For me to have the confidence it takes to compete and win....but if you're offering to sponsor then I'm all for it!!
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   catfish2123
June 30, 2014 at 8:02pm
I'm ready for the next one man let's get it on I'm in
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   Calvin Hills
June 30, 2014 at 8:10pm
Didn't mean has been, just meant my confidence grew the more I fished. Did not mean to degrade you on any level.....
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   pengerran
June 30, 2014 at 8:32pm
Not a chance on the sponsorship. I can hardly afford me to do fish them. Not fishing Ms has cut down my bank roll. Here's the deal. Nobody has ever seen anyone win as consistently as you are catch big fish pretty much whenever you want to in a body of water that isn't known for big fish. Nobody knows if you cheat, there is no proof, only whispers. It's a lot of un needed drama. I can't tell you how to handle it. You can be cocky or you can be humble with wins. At this point I don't think if it matters. You can let it roll as is or try to prove you aren't. Ball is in your court. People could put their money where their doubts are and pay for a polygraph. Random so if you pass there is no doubts you took something to alter your pulse. No idea how to go about it or what it cost. Just an idea. If the money can't be raised then everybody shuts up. If you pass then their should be a line of people to apologize.
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   Calvin Hills
June 30, 2014 at 9:37pm
I doubt even that would change the thoughts of some of these shallow minded ppl...
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   D-Matt07
June 30, 2014 at 10:32pm
Read this whole drama fest.Simple fix for all the butt hurt people and suspicious people.Get the boys number,agree to randomly challenge him,call him on a random Saturday in the future,fish Sunday AM.After he beats y'all,shut the hell up.Pretty simple solution
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   Calvin Hills
July 01, 2014 at 5:09am
I agree I'll take a challenge any day........
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   Prohound
July 01, 2014 at 7:35am
Calvin, show up at 4th street launch tomorrow July 2, at 430. We will fish for a undisclosed amount of money, if you win, I'll come back here and let everyone know you won. If I win, you come tell everyone you got beat by a loser.

I'll see you tomorrow good buddy, if anyone else wants to come witness, be at the 4th street launch in Covington. You all can bring your money, we will settle this with fancy rod and reels, and fancy bass boats, and a guy who never wins. See y'all tomorrow SUCKA's!
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   Calvin Hills
July 01, 2014 at 7:48am
I would if I could but I work till 5 and don't make it home till 6...
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   BayouWildOutdoors
July 01, 2014 at 8:32am
Calvin Hills, why are you even wasting your time with these clowns. You have nothing to prove to them. The burden of proof is on THEM. They are just haters and jealous of your success. No need to do a one day tourney. Anything can happen in one day, you need to look at long-term results and its pretty clear you have them all beat long-term. Keep up the good work and shake the haters, they do nothing but bring you down!
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   rocknet
July 01, 2014 at 9:09am
Whats the problem over that way.... guys catching too many big green fish?
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   D-Matt07
July 01, 2014 at 9:12am
Yeah pretty sad when grown ass men turn into high school cheer team drama queens over a $20 tournament,then say that the guy who wins it the most isn't wanted.To me if I'm fishing I want to beat the best not try and accuse them of stuff and kick them out a club so I can try to win.
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   rocknet
July 01, 2014 at 9:48am
Yep, been there, done that......
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   Calvin Hills
July 01, 2014 at 11:34am
I don't feel as if I have something to prove,as a few of you have stated it's already been proven...thank you to those who have my back
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   BayouWildOutdoors
July 01, 2014 at 11:38am
and as far as people not wanting you to be in their club thats hilarious. You should start your own bass club called 'winners fishing club' or 'new school fishing club' and not include any washed up old men
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   RedRiverBassin2014
July 01, 2014 at 12:08pm
I have read through this entire ordeal and have dealt with similar matters in the past, so I figured I would throw my two sense in.....not that it matters.

OPTION A (This is for the tournament directors and club owners)
Club owners and or directors should take action immediately in order to solve this problem before things get out of hand. You guys should get together discuss options, take a vote on the matter and handle it as a group.

OPTION B (This is also for the tournament directors and club owners)
If there is any doubt on cheating or the like. You should appoint the person a marshal or ride along, for the season. (Not just one tournament as I have read in the post above.) one tournament ride along doesn't prove anything. If he can really fish he will continue a winning streak through out the season even though he has a ride along.

OPTION C (This is for the guy being accused)
Screw it and make your own club and continue fishing/winning competitions. From what I read above you fish a ton of tournaments and you probably know how to run your own club. These guys obviously have issues with competing with you and they are making it seem like you are not welcome. Just say screw it and make up your own club and rules. People that want to compete against you will join and the people that have these issues will keep their distance.

It is sad to say but we have had the same ordeals in the past with certain anglers on the RED. One ordeal like this can take away from the fun of competing with friends, and family. I really hope this situation gets resolved because I have been through this same deal in the past and I know what kind of damage it can do to a club.
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   redshad12
July 01, 2014 at 12:26pm
I know that Kyle fishes in a lot of the other club tournaments in and around the Northshore, but just to clarify.. these Manchac tournaments are not club tournaments. I've given them a name 'Northpass Knot-heads' to help it stand out in the NBS (Northshore bass series). I just put these tournaments on for fun. Try to do around 5 or 6 a year all out of North pass. I don't know about all the other club tourneys that are a part of the NBS but as for this one, just know We'd like to see Kyle and anyone else who's interested continue to fish them. The livewell checks and rules apply to everyone and I see no reason for anyone to need a 'ride along'. Like I said before, all the accusations I've heard are just whispers about 'hear say' that they've heard from other people. It really is a non issue guys. Sure 15+ lbs is a monster bag for the area, however, there are no boundaries for this tourney and there is plenty of reachable water that hold really good bass (as we've seen at the weigh in). A 'rare' limit is no grounds for accusations of cheating, to me it's a good thing... it just shows that the areas around can produce very nice limits. I look forward to continuing to put these tournaments on and hope to see everyone there!
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   Prohound
July 01, 2014 at 1:58pm
Louisiana's Elites Greg ' The Hack Attack ' Hackney, Cliff 'The Cajun Baby' Crochet, Kyle ' The River Monster' Hills.
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   RedRiverBassin2014
July 01, 2014 at 2:37pm
Yeah redshad12 My post wasnt directed towards you in any way. I really enjoy reading fishing reports and I have kept up with your tournaments on here. From what I can tell from reading in your reports you put on a really good friendly and fun tournament for all. My apologies if my post came out that way but it was not directed at your club but to any clubs that have this type of contorversy. I just wanted to give my opinion from an outsider stand point. My apologies man
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   redshad12
July 01, 2014 at 3:05pm
No need to apologize, was just making sure everyone knew that all these comments on here weren't just about the tourney I put on but also other club tourneys around the area lol. And that mine are open to anyone. It can get confusing reading all the comments which are basically referring to numerous club and series tourneys around the northshore as a whole as opposed to this specific one.
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   evelknevil
July 07, 2014 at 7:34pm
im sorry to say but i do not agree with you on that one, and i believe a lot of other anglers feel the same way that fish those tournaments. i use to fish tournaments but had to stop due to recent health issues. i still keep up with them a lot and talk to a lot of anglers that fish those same tournaments through the friendship i built with them over the years. its sad to say there have been a lot of controversy behind his recent streak of wins. especially because these tournaments are mainly based on the honor system. everything i have heard about him was very negative a few words like cheating, thief and fish stashing are being thrown around. i stopped in on my way to the south shore and was present for the last tournament weigh in and at least 3 out of his 5 fish were dead when he released them. they were belly up floating around the launch, and didnt look to be in the best of shape when he put them on the scales. the weigh master had to hold other competitors bass down from jumping around because they were so lively and in great shape just so he could weigh them in. i didnt even fish the tournament and this is was i noticed and heard while just passing through to say hi to a few of the anglers i knew.

All this controversy over something said by someone that has no stake in the game!

I VOTE TO REMOVE HIM FROM THIS FORUM COMPLETELY!!!
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   evelknevil
July 07, 2014 at 9:27pm
just an old fart that loves the outdoors, i love competitive bass fishing but due to recent health issues i havent been able to do much fishing.

So, what is competitive about starting crap about the competition? Is that how we compete? What is competitive about jumping on the bandwagon & voting him out of a group that you don't even belong, BRFrogMan09? There went your credibility down the toilet! Who wants to fish with you?

What kind of MAN throws someone out of a group, and his friend, that has no proof of the B.S. started by people thats not in your group??? THAT SUCKS!!! WHO WANTS TO BE IN YOUR GROUP? CHRIS BASEY!
BASS ASSASSINS Where you get kicked out if you win too much!!!
I hope your not teaching your kid to act & compete like that!
Anybody that is participation in this guys tournaments has no respect for themselves, in my opinion, & I may know some of you.
SAD! SAD! SAD! SAD!
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