Chalmette Refining Petition

Louisiana Sportsman Readers:

Today we are announcing the start of a Petition to URGE Chalmette Refining to resume the manufacture and sale of ethanol FREE gasoline from their refinery's truck rack.

Go to my website and look at the UPPER right hand corner side of the 'Home' page and you will see the Petition. Simply click on the Orange 'Sign Petition Now' button to enter your information. NOTE: It is IMPORTANT THAT ALL LINES ON THE FORM ARE COMPLETED or your petition will NOT BE VALID! For the State, just type in LA or MS (CAPS please) on the window line. Your e-mail address will NOT be used in the final printed copy of the petition when we give it to Chalmette Refining. After you complete your information (MUST complete ALL columns in the petition form), click the orange 'Sign Petition Now' button. Then, check your e-mail and VERIFY your petition entry by clicking the link indicated. We hope to get over 10,000 names on the petition. Be sure to tell ALL your friends about the petition.

NOTE: Some readers feel we should ALSO direct our concerns and frustration to Washington, so I have decided when the petition is complete, we'll not only send to Chalmette Refining, but ALSO to Louisiana U.S. Senators (2) and Representatives (6) and also to the head of the EPA.

The website name is www.PeteLandrysRealGas.com

E-mail me at way2gopete@yahoo.com if you have any problems or questions about the petition.

PLEASE tell all your friends to sign the petition.

'Pete'

These folks will get fined heavily daily if they go against the federal gov't mandate correct?

Why are we not going to the head of the problem (congress) and getting the ethanol mandate taken away? The refineries don't make the rules, just follow them.

Corn is for food, not fuel

I did not find the link nor the orange link

LETS KEEP THIS POST AT THE TOP MODERATOR THIS IS A VERY IMPORTANT SUBJECT

I signed it no problem! did you go to www.petelandrysrealgas.com? its on the bottom right!

just got to THANK YOU AGAIN for all your hard work!!! SURE HOPE more people are donating a few dollars to you on your website, so you can continue the fight!!!

Guys: I asked my contact with Louisiana Sportsman if he can keep this post announcing the Chalmette Refining Petition at the top of the post list so it won't be moved down by other posts. That way, readers will be more assured they see the announcement.

ALSO, please be sure to tell all of your friends about the Petition and encourage them to sign it.

Question: Is having the requirement to list your e-mail a negative in encouraging readers to sign the petition? If it is, my webmaster can remove the e-mail requirement in the form.

Thanks for all your thanks guys! Hopefully we can get LOTS of readers to sign the petition.

'Pete'

Why is there only a petition for Chalmette Refinery?
Shouldn't we have one for Valero in St. Bernard parish also?
How about Valero and Norco refinery in St. Charles parish?
You know, the refineries in the parish you live in Pete. What about the oil company you receive a pension from Pete? No petition for that one?
Only one person commenting so far understands where the fight needs to be taken.
Here is another situation. Let's say Chamette Refinery takes a look at this petition and says, OK, we will make conventional gas. But since we now have to pay fines. We will pass those fines onto the customers. ( that'll be you. And every other person on this website that complains about the cost of fishing. Let alone the cost of fishing and can't catch trout.).
So again Pete, and to others out there that think I am bash Pete or giving him a hard time. Why not petition all refineries in this state?
Better yet, PETITION THE REAL PROBLEM!!!! Hint. It's not the refineries.

I went to your site and filled in the form. thanks for your hard work and for posting on Louisiana sportsman.

great idea why don't you do that! set you up a website and we will sign your petitions also!!! thanks for wanting to help out pete i know he appreciates that!!! as far as 100% gas will cost more yes no doubt!!! if you want it pay for it or buy ethanol your decision??? pete has been petitioning the real problem from the beginning, he has been urging all of us to call our congressman and reps from the getgo even providing all the contact info for us to make it simple!! you must not have been paying to much attention??? and this just aint a fishing problem!!! its every gasoline engine that's made besides a car or truck engine!!!

For someone who post things like this.........

abeastandasavage
Opinions & Responses in Outside Louisiana
who actually trusts our own federal government???
just curious??? like taking a poll!!! I absolutely don't!!! please only legal American citizens comment!!!
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abeastandasavage
Posted June 13 at 4:32pm
so far the results are?
well according to my poll so far, 100% don't trust the government!!! im sure there is people out there that love Obama and trust our government? ITS JUST THAT, they don't have the kuhoonas to admit it and don't want to be identified!!!

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Posted June 16 at 4:02pm
samarai?
never said the government didn't do any good, but they sure could do a heck of a lot better, especially the last 5 r 6 years!!!
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joe adams ha ha ha ha ha!!!!
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General in Outside Louisiana
great news!!
great news guys, hillary clinton is out of the hospital(where she has been hiding) and shes ok!!! she has blood clots in the brain so said, but we already knew she had brain problems!!! amazing what these people will go thru to stay out of trouble, spending hundreds of thousands of dollars in tax payers money, in so called medical bills!! never will hear her testify!!! shes free and innocent as a bird!!! aint this sad what these people can get away with!! i cant even get a speeding ticket fixed and they can get away with murder!!! i guess there are people that are above the law, i think they call them what, oh ya, politicians!!!!
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And many more of the like from you. Us readers would think you would have been leading the pack over this mess that was created by a government you do not trust. But I guess you will just sit back. Let others do the leg work. And sign your name.
Now beast. I ask you. Where do you think this ethanol issue was started. The refineries that do not produce ethanol yet are forced to buy and blend it. Or the government you love so much. I'll make it easy on you. Just type an 'A' for refineries or 'B' for government.

I have been doing more than just paying attention.

But, I want to be clear on what you are saying. So you signed a petition for one refinery to continue to sell conventional gas. But if you can't afford it, you won't buy it. Now here lies another issue. The refinery gets fined for not blending gas with ethanol. So they charge more. You and others don't buy it. So the refinery' profit fall. To make up for losses. They cut jobs. Louisiana citizens jobs.
Now Pete has advocated calling government to express our concerns on ethanol. But YOU believe a petition to one refinery will solve the issue????

AB THEY ALL IN CAHOOTS WITH EACH OTHER!!! big oil and government, that's where the money is at!!! but it don't hurt to try even though it mite be a loosing battle!!! can only try!!!

So. All of the big oil companies are in 'cahoots' with the government right? So all of the big oil companies give money to politicians to mandate that the oil companies blend ethanol or be fined. Wow. Makes all the sense in the world to me. Why don't you ask Pete how many oil companies in Louisiana PRODUCE ethanol. I'd tell you to google it. But then again, you can't just sign a petition and find the information.

im sure glad u finally understand!!! do I trust my government, I guess not!!

IMPORTANT: I reviewed the first day's petition entries Thursday night (7/10). While the counter on the bottom of petition window showed 52 entries, the actual count was 84; HOWEVER, over 20 could NOT BE USED as the full address was NOT LISTED. And, another 40 were NOT confirmed. I e-mailed the people who made entries BUT failed to enter their full address and asked that they PLEASE re-enter their petition with the full address so it can be valid.

ALSO, after you complete ALL LINES on the petition form, and then click the orange 'Sign Petition Now' button, it is IMPORTANT that you check your e-mail as the petition automatically generates an e-mail to your inbox which requires that you click on the link provided in the e-mail to CONFIRM your entry. Please read the detailed instructions on the top of the website's 'Home' page for correct completion of the petition.

The website address is www.PeteLandrysRealGas.com.

Thanks for your interest and support.

'Pete'

READERS: Please check my website to read a letter which I mailed to our Louisiana U.S. Senators and Representatives today (7/10/2014)in the aftermath of Chalmette Refining's decision to discontinue the manufacture and sale of ethanol FREE gasoline from their refinery. Note that I copied the Chalmette Refining Manager on the letter. The letter is on 'Pete's Articles' page of the website.

Note that I first asked our U.S. Delegation to PLEASE REPEAL the EPA Renewal Fuel Standard (RFS), BUT, if that effort fails, then please introduce an Amendment to the RFS in both the House and Senate to allow/require ALL U.S.REFINERIES to manufacture and sell 5% of their total gasoline sales as conventional, ethanol free gasoline, with NO EPA PENALTIES!

I encourage all readers to e-mail our Louisiana and Mississippi Senators and your district Representative to introduce the RFS Amendment I proposed. All the e-mail addresses are listed on my website's 'Home' page. The more the constituents they hear from, the better chance we have of them listening to us.

My website is: www.PeteLandrysRealGas.com

'Pete'

Your letter to our U.S. delegation makes a lot more sense and is an effort directed to the cause of the problem. This letter should be the petition you want every one to sign.
I still have some questions.
Why did you not copy the refinery managers of Valero( Chalmette and Norco) and Norco? Are you afraid of these two companies?

Pete, I like what you do on here, but you have an agenda (and I don't think it involves ethanol solely). Why are you just petitioning one of many refineries? They are just following orders that were mandated by Congress (the real problem).

What is your agenda here? And do you receive a pension from one of the other refineries you failed to mention?

I may be wrong but Pete may be petitioning only Chalmette Rfy because they are the only refinery that offered E0 gasoline. Also you continually say Pete shows partiallity to the company he retired from mentioning Motiva and Valero in St Charles Parish who never produced E0 gas. If this were true his loyalty would be to one or the othet not both.

You suggested Pete should have petitioned Valero and Norco Refinery but didn't because he lives in that parish. Doesn't he live in St John Parish???

First Day Petition Results - LOTS OF ERRORS

IMPORTANT: I reviewed the first day's petition entries Thursday night (7/10). While the counter on the bottom of petition window showed 52 entries, the actual count was 84; HOWEVER, over 20 could NOT BE USED as the full address was NOT LISTED. And, another 40 were NOT confirmed. I e-mailed the people who made entries BUT failed to enter their full address and asked that they PLEASE re-enter their petition with the full address so it can be valid.

so out of 84 entries, 20 could not be used and another 40 were not confirmed, so 72% of the people who responded can not even fully understand directions. Wow. Yeah, I am not signing that

so you are saying a vast majority of us that signed petes petition are stupid right!!!! not everyone can be blessed with your intelligence??? but at least we are trying to help unlike you!!

'Pathfinder' and 'BayouWildOutdoors' (and others):

Let me attempt to respond to your criticism regarding the Chalmette Refining Petition:

1) When ethanol gasoline first showed up in Louisiana, ONLY 5 refineries continued to manufacture and offer ethanol FREE gasoline: Chalmette Refining (Chalmette), Murphy Refinery (Meraux), Marathon Refinery (Garyville), Placid Refinery (Port Allen) and Phillips 66/Conoco refinery (West Lake near Lake Charles). NONE of the other branded refineries, Shell, Exxon/Mobil, Chevron, BP, Valero, etc offered ethanol FREE gas but sold ONLY ethanol FREE gas from the beginning! Then Valero bought the Murphy refinery and and Valero sells ONLY E10. Then, Marathon Refinery in 2012 discontinued ethanol FREE gas (and YES, we also gave them a lot of bad PR, and as a result, they offered to continue to supply EO, but ONLY in a 90 octane grade - about $0.30 MORE expensive than 87 octane). Now, Chalmette Refining's decision leaves ONLY two (2) refineries still selling ethanol FREE in 87 octane regular E0! AND, that is why I am working so hard to see if we can get Chalmette Refining to reconsider their position and resume the sale of E0!

2) Despite Pathfinder's claims, I have NO AGENDA in this activity, EXCEPT to try to convince Chalmette Refining to resume the sale of E0 so the consumers in southeast Louisiana still have access to E0 in a large number of stations. AND, I live in LaPlace, which is in St. John Parish, NOT St. Charles Parish.

3) The primary reason I did not send the letter I mailed to our Louisiana U.S. Senators and Representatives (read it on my website's 'Pete's Articles' page) and copied Chalmette Refining is because the other refineries NEVER did sell E0 from the beginning, except Marathon Oil. Then, there is the cost. To copy 9 copies of the letter which included 5 attached articles (all in color), and postage to mail these 10 copies costed me $100.00! That's NOT CHUMP change guys! To copy and mail ALL refinery CEO's would have costed me over $200.00! If you offer to pay the cost, I'll GLADLY send it to all of them!

Sometimes I feel 'UN APPRECIATED' for what I do to help awareness to consumers and readers! I DO NOT CHARGE a fee to read my website, but incur several COSTS to run this website. I have a GoDaddy 'Domain Name' charge and a GoDaddy 'Web Hosting' charge. These alone cost me about $100/year. Then I had to pay $3,000+ to have my webmaster create this website. I rely on 'DONATIONS' ONLY to raise a few dollars to try to cover my expenses! I MAKE NO PROFIT from this venture!! The first year I did a 'Donation Solicitation' in 2013, I received about $400. This year, I received ONLY $50 in donations! If I don't get more support, I am faced with the possibility of either SELLING the website (if I can find a buyer) OR, SHUTTING IT DOWN! I CANNOT continue to operate it 'out of my own pocket'!

SO PLEASE, offer me financial support, courteous advice and support, but continued 'near ugly complaints' ARE NOT APPRECIATED!

I do hope I have answered my critics satisfactorily?

'Pete'

you know pathfinder24 just joined this forum on may 8th and bayouwildoutdoors just joined on june 19? I think they both work for Chalmette refining and got together to give you a hard time!! pete you sure must be shaking some branches somewhere and they don't like it!!! like troy landry would say on swamp people, pete you a tree shaker!!!!! keep up the good work, don't worry about clowns like them!!!

come on guys if you can afford it, go to petes website www.petelandrysrealgas.com and donate a few bucks to help pete continue this fight for ethanol free gas!! without pete we aint got a chance!!! lets show him we appreciate all he has done so far!! he cant keep fighting the fight without our help!!! THANKS!!! OH, BTW, pathfinder24 and bayouwildoutdoors, even though yall don't sign the petition, yall can still donate to help out pete!!! how about it???

I refuse to sign your petition, and no one despises ethanol gas more than me. I never, ever buy gas with ethanol. Yea its a pain but I am not a sheep to be led to slaughter. If people would quit buying it then they would quit making it, you only have yourselves to blame. I pay more for real gas and I only have one place I can get it, but if everyone did like me you would need no petition. So in closing, the world needs more wok es and less sheep: but then again maybe sheep like getting _________ed.

lets see you will only buy eo never ethanol but you wont sign the petiton so the refinery will keep making it, don't make no sense at all! you only buy eo because they have it now but not for long!! you think eo will just fall out the sky??? if everyone would quit buying ethanol that\'s the dumest thing I ever heard you wouldn\'t see a car on the road!!! nothing wrong with ethanol for cars and trucks but for everything else it sucks!! so when there is no more eo what will you do ride a bicycle to work and on vacation? no you will buy ethanol because that's all they got!!! I think I will buy stock in kayaks!!

Mr Branch, do you realize what you said? You claim you NEVER use ethanol gas and ONLY ethanol FREE gas. So, if we can't convince Chalmette Refining to resume the manufacture and sale of E0, and if Placid refinery in Port Allen shuts down, can you inform us where do you expect go buy E0? Are you going to drive to Lake Charles to buy some from a station there that is supplied by the Phillips 66/Conoco Refinery in West Lake? There are currently ONLY TWO(2)refineries in Louisiana still manufacturing 87 octane regular ethanol free gas. Two refineries that I know of do offer a limited amount, on special order of 90 octane grade E0, but gas distributors use this ONLY AS A LAST RESORT because it costs 30 cents/gallon more than 87 octane E0.

It is your perogative NOT to sign the petition, but DON'T COMPLAIN if our efforts fail and there is NO E0 to be found! Then you will be FORCED to buy 'Corn Gas'. You argument for not signing the petition makes ABSOLUTELY NO sense.

'Pete'

Your effort will fail. The refinery could not care less about the petition, they only know dollars and cents. My point was people that purchase ethanol gas are actually signing the petition and they are the very cause of ethanol gas being produced. The refinery is going to make what sells, just like every other business in the history of mankind. If people would stop buying it they would quit making it. Do you think they really care about 3 guys in challmette putting e0 gas in their boat once a month so they will refine a little for the boats, come on. You are wasting your time with petition. I sleep good at night knowing I have never contributed to the making of ethanol gas just simply by not purchasing it. Its economics 101, demand dictates supply.

You will garner my support but only with a full on ethanol boycott, petitions are useless. Oh and the gas I use comes from some refinery in Mississippi. Even though I pay more I get much better gas mileage and I do not support ethanol production, I get it at the bulk plant of the local distributed. I make a stand no matter what the sacrafice if I believe in something.

VOTE VOTE. Mary is leading in the polls and if she get in again MORE OF THE SAME. Without
her vote no Obama care case closed. VOTE VOTE UNLESS YOU ARE HAPPY WITH THE PAST 5YEARS.

Js you have struck on another topic alltogether. Where I live the sheep has been beaten into submission for so long that they don't vote anymore, they just lay back and take what's coming to them. The voter turnout is around 20 percent, so good luck with that. Sheep get eaten, its a fact of life.

you sure are a confused person, just thought I would tell you incase you don't realize that!! nothing you say makes anykind of sense, whatsoever!!!

Mr. Branch: You made this comment in an earlier post 'I refuse to sign your petition, and no one despises ethanol gas more than me. I never, ever buy gas with ethanol......If people would quit buying it then they would quit making it, you only have yourselves to blame....' Do you not understand the sheer stupidity of this comment?

How will people STOP USING IT (ethanol gas), when OVER 95+% of the gas on the market today is ETHANOL gas? We have very little choice to using it when so LITTLE E0 is available! I, and most educated consumers realize the reason for this ethanol gas MESS, is our own Government, who voted for this CRAP, first in 2005, then 'doubling down' on it with the 2007 Renewal Fuel Standard (RFS). Did you read my recent letter to our Louisiana U.S. delegation on my website's 'Pete's Articles' page on my website:

www.PeteLandrysRealGas.com

If you DESPISE ethanol gas so much, how often to your write, phone or e-mail our Louisiana and/or Mississippi U.S.Legislators to urge them to repeal or significantly amend this ethanol Renewal Standard? I'll bet you are just another of the 'complainers' who talks but NEVER does anything about it! At least we are TRYING to do something about it.

I prefer not to post negative comments, but you really need to wake up Mr. Branch....surely you must see from the replies to your posts, most readers take your comments as SILLY.

'Pete'

Again, I never ever purchase ethanol gas, it can be done. If you buy ethanol gas look in the mirror at the man responsible for its production. The govt pays these stations so much per gallon subsidy to sell it so they sell it and people like you buy it, so quit complaining. I personally chose to never support ethanol production by not purchasing the finished product. You can write letters and get a list of hippocrites on a petition until the cows come home but as long as people buy it they will sell it. Reach down find some semblence of a spine and if you want to make a change use your website for a boycott or you are wasting your and everyone else's time. Real gas is still readily available.

I can only tell the stations where I travel that sell ethanol free. There is a c store in summit miss off I 55, bernies c store in folsom, and the bulk plant in Covington where I get my ethanol free. You can buy ethanol free, its still around these are three places in the small area I travel in. In other oil producing states like Oklahoma it is at every station. Only in this oil producing state its a problem because we have a moron for a governor, our entire economy is based on oil and gas and he allows ethanol gas and people like you buy it, amazing. Everyone can post where they can buy ethanol free and start the boycott, I won't post again, I feel like i am wasting my time, I would probably be better off trying to explain basic economics to a chicken, good luck in your future endeavors.

I have never run anything other than ethanol free gas in my 2014 Skeeter/Yamaha SHO. I sometimes drive 10-20 miles to get it. There is a strong market for non ethanol fuel in this part of the world.

Mr. Branch: You really need to 'do your homework' before you speak Sir. There has not been ANY subsidy to refineries to blend ethanol gasoline since January 1, 2012 when Congress DID NOT renew the $0.45/gallon tax/credit/subsidy which you and I, the taxpayers, provided them through our great government to blend ethanol gasoline. Service stations DO NOT get even a penny more for selling ethanol gas. If you don't believe me, try doing a 'google search'!

By the way, how long have you been working for Chalmette Refining?

'Pete'

think u rite just another employee? sure could be big dogs in disguise, like the others!!! they coming after you pete!! I know you got a lot of pressure on you, I know you wont give up, you getting to them big time!! they are breaking down and don't know what to do anymore!! I think something else big time is going on and they don't like you sticking your nose in their business!!! tell us what to do to help you out??

Pete here you are again accusing people for working at Chalmette refinery, yet have failed on every occasion to state who you worked for. So you don't live in St. Charles parish. Then it must be you work for either or.
If you would have gotten on this website and asked for donations to be able to copy all refinery managers( at least the ones in this state) you would have gotten the fund! Abeastandasavage(certianly a beast and savage when it come to spelling and punctuation ) would have helped you out!
You should be thanking Chalmette Refinery for holding out as long as they did. Correct? I mean if they were not blending ethanol then they did not receive any tax breaks?
I'f I would have spent my own money on a website to inform people of the bad effects of ethanol, then my petition would be to government. Not the refineries. I would be making sure my efforts were directed to the cause of the problem.

tell us what town you live in and who you work for???

Pathfinder, from your comments, it appears you did not read the letter I sent to our Louisiana U.S. Senators and Representatives? My letter continues to voice the issues and concerns I have e-mailed our Senators and my Representative about in nearly a hundred e-mails over the past 2-3 years! 'REPEAL THE RENEWAL FUEL STANDARD'. In this letter (which you can read on my website's 'Pete's Articles' page, I also asked them if they don't think they can get the votes to TOTALLY REPEAL THE RFS, then introduce an Amendment in both the House and Senate to allow ALL refineries to manufacture and sell 5% of their TOTAL GASOLINE SALES as non ethanol gasoline, WITH NO PENALTIES! That might stand a better chance of passing.

Meanwhile, if you have better ideas and suggestions of how we can get Chalmette to resume the sale of non ethanol gas, LET'S HEAR IT.

www.PeteLandrysRealGas.com

By the way, did you sign the Petition? I assume you did NOT.

'Pete'

Hey guys if you use e0 in your outboard or any other internal combustion engine you shlould sign the petition instead of questioning the man for doing a good thing. Chalmette refinery was the only one producing e0. The farther away the refinery is the more it cost to transport, therefore higher price at the pump. Refineries made billions when the government subsidized them to produce e10. Now the subsidy has expired the do have to pay more to produce e0 but that is not a deal breaker. Ethanol is blended into pure gas after it has been produced.As sportsman we need to stick together on key issues instead of getting off track and bashing each other,

Can anyone tell me what area (or perhaps specific gas stations) that the Chalmette refinery services? I signed the petition already but am curious as to what refinery supplies the few stations in Houma where I live. Does anyone know?

I live in Slidell and am self employed. See how easy that is. I depend very much on fuel.
Pete I have read your website. I have seen your letters to the government. I also see that a Chalmette Refinery is the only refinery you want people to call and complain about not continuing the sell of conventional gasoline. Why not stir up again with Marathon?

Here's my opinion on this:
If congress is the cause. Then I would want to go after the root of the problem. Going after one refinery does what? Ok say you get them to continue with conventional gas. Price is going to be high because why? They still have to purchase RINs. And when only a few companies produce what a lot of people want, demand is high which dictates price. If every refinery could produce conventional without penalty, then there is more competition, which leads to????? Better prices for consumers.
So, your letter to government should have been your original petition. Then copy that petition to ALL of the oil companies. With a huge public outcry( which will not be from any midwest states) the oil companies may take notice and help by putting their lobbyist on board.
I just don't see any good going after one refinery. Refineries are businesses. They are here to make money. They will do what they need to do to keep profit margins high. When the going gets tough one of the first things they cut is what? Jobs. We the people of this state need these jobs( Unless you think free cellphones are a necessity). I'm sure some businesses in in the midwest will not make all the money they have been. But government mandates shouldn't make people rich. They should help out the country as a whole. The only thing it did was help a midwestern politician get elected. And maybe outboard and small engine mechanics.

Charlie, I have asked Chalmette Refining's Public Relations Manager Patrick Trahan many times how much non ethanol gas they were producing and to what Parishes they were selling to. He has continually refused to answer ANYTHING, claiming that is their company's private business. I don't know if he is just being obstinate or is being 'muzzled' by their Company attorneys. You can't get ANYTHING from them. I've NEVER, EVER dealt with a more SECRETIVE Company, EVER!

According to several distributors I have spoken with, they were hauling E0 from Chalmette to Plaquemines, St. Bernard, Orleans, Jefferson, St Tammany, Tangipahoa, St Charles, St John, St James, Lafourche, Terrebonne and Ascension for sure. Losing E0 from Chalmette will/has already caused MANY stations to switch to 'corn gas'! Placid Oil refinery in Port Allen is not even half the capacity of Chalmette Refining. PLUS, their non ethanol 87 octane regular is $0.30/gallon more expensive than what distributors were paying from Chalmette. I spoke to the Placid Public Relations person and he explained to me that they blend only about 10% of their gas as non ethanol gas. They don't make 87 octane E0, they blend their 84 octane E0(which when they add 10% ethanol to makes 87 octane ethanol) and their 90 octane E0 to make 87 octane E0. Because they 'downgrade' their 90 grade, their gas costs $0.25/gallon more. The distributors tell me that there is an added 4-5 cents/gallon more to haul from Port Allen rather than from Chalmette.

Placid does NOT have the capacity to supply even half of what Chalmette was supplying. SO, if we can't convince Chalmette Refining/Exxon/Mobil to re-consider their position and resume the manufacture and sale of E0 from their refinery, it will be MUCH, MUCH HARDER TO FIND E0 in the Parishes I indicated above.

The petition we're doing currently was suggested by a reader. If anyone has any ideas or suggestions on how we might influence Chalmette Refining to re-consider their current position, let's hear it. My next project will be to communicate with the CEO of Exxon/Mobil directly, along with more e-mails and phone calls to our Louisiana U.S. Senators and Representatives. I URGE all readers to 'bombard' not only Chalmette Refining's phone lines and write to the Plant Manager, but to also bombard Washington! All the phone numbers and e-mail addresses on how to contact our Louisiana and Mississippi U.S. Senators and Representatives is on my website.

'Pete'

Readers. CHALMETTE REFINERY is not the only refinery in this state!!!!!!!!!!! HELLO.

I tell you what Pete. You have that petition directed to congress to repeal the mandate for purchasing RINs. Have a generic letter written asking all. I said ALL of the states refineries help with getting the ethanol mandate changed in congress. I will sign your petition. Do you realize how many refinery worker you could get to sign a petition if that petition wasn't their employer. I will be more than happy to assist you in any way possible. But I did not get to where I am these days because I spent my time complaining to a milk carton manufacturer, that the milk taste bad. When I know the milk was sour before it went into the carton. Come on man. Take off the blinders!!!!!!!!!!

Pathfinder: This will be my last response to you until you 'educate yourself' on the ethanol gasoline issues. Refiners DON'T like ethanol gas any more than you or I do. Through their trade association, ALL U.S. Refiners brought a lawsuit against the EPA two years ago regarding cellulosic ethanol. The EPA LOST and the Federal Judge who heard the case forced the EPA to develop realistic volumes in the Renewal Fuel Standards for this type of ethanol. Refiners STRONGLY OPPOSE higher ethanol blends also (like E15 and E85) because of the HIGH LIABILITY risk that it will damage vehicles that are NOT 'FLEX' vehicles (these are the ONLY vehicles that can safely run on these higher blends). That is why you don't see ANY E15 nor E85 Stations in Louisiana or Mississippi!

I testified before two (2) Louisiana Legislative groups in 2010 and 2011 about E15. Refiner lobbyists told me not to worry because the refineries said they would NOT sell it in Louisiana!

The point I am making Sir, is that ALL US refiners have their lobbyists and trade associations that are FIGHTING the EPA over ethanol gas and many of their CEO's testified before a House and Senate hearings on the RFS in 2013. So, STOP trying to tell me about refineries other than Chalmette Refining. If you were to read my earlier post here, nearly ALL the majors (except 4)immediately began blending ALL their gas as E10 immediately, and blended NO E0 when they realized they could 'hit the jackpot' with the $0.45/gallon tax credit subsidy between 2007 until it expired January 1, 2012 for blending this garbage. During this 4 year period, U.S. refineries shared $22+ Billion per year from these subsidies. So, when they have to pay a few million for RINs, I really have NO sympathy for them after soaking consumers for 4 years on theses subsidies!

I post articles about all this regularly on my website. I strongly suggest you become informed about all the ethanol issues before you post silly stuff that makes no sense. This is my LAST reply to you. If you don't care to participate in the Petition, that is your choice. Stop ragging me and others that are TRYING to get Chalmette Refining management to re-consider their position on E0 sale.

I am honestly getting just a little tired of your insults and attempts to discredit what I am trying to do to help consumers Sir. You surely must realize you are in a STRONG minority. I DON'T get paid for operating my website. I don't get paid a penny for this effort! I am an ambassador for conventional, non ethanol gasoline. You, apparently don't care, so will you please STOP posting your uninformed and insulting posts? I will NOT reply to any of future posts from you. I have other more important things to do with my time. Goodbye Sir!

'Pete'

I have not tried to discredit you. I have only tried to steer your efforts in a more useful way.
In every comment you have posted here and on your website you have wanted people to call CHALMETTE REFINERY. You and only you have proved through your comments that your agenda is to get only ONE refinery to continue the sale of conventional gasoline. And that refinery was one of the LAST in the state to stop selling conventional gasoline. Which means they DID NOT receive any tax breaks for blending ethanol. Why are you not advocating the continuance of conventional gasoline from the oil refineries in the state that DID accept these tax breaks?
You want me to stop 'BASHING' you? State who you receive a pension from. Get a petition to get your previous employer to continue selling conventional gasoline.
You think I have silly comments. On your website. You seem to be a ' AMBASSADOR' for anti gun control. You post articles to fire Mary Landrieu. How many time did you petition ammo or gun manufactures? No. You directed your efforts to government. The ones who are trying to take your choice away. Silly as it may seem to you. Going after one refinery is NOT the answer.
Louisiana, which has the 10th-most proved oil reserves in the country, has 19 refineries with the capacity to process 3,273,020 barrels per day — second only to Texas in capacity. The largest of these refineries, Exxon Mobil Corp's Baton Rouge, processes about 503,000 barrels per day and is the fourth largest oil refinery in the United States. According to Exxonmobil, The refinery is the second-largest employer in the state.
Why complain to these people. Wouldn't you want this big of a corporation on your side?
Go back and show where I have insulted you. Where have I tries to discredit you. The only thing I asked is, ' Why only Chalmette Refinery?' And which oil company you worked for. Neither of which you have given an answer to. So, who is being secretive???????????????????????????
Keep betting on the slow horse!

Pathfinder , you are making a lot more sense to me than the self proclaimed guru of ethanol and his master plan

But the ultimate answer lies with Congress.... Good article about what is going on!!

http://articles.chicagotribune.com/2014-07-12/opinion/ct-ethanol-raises-gas-prices-edit-0712-20140712_1_percent-ethanol-more-ethanol-e-85

go to CONGRESS! Chalmette Refinery is doing what they are MANDATED to do!

I will sign a petition if it is directed towards Congress.

But the real name of the game is the elected people in office in Congress and Senate. Congress and Senate are a wonderful think for freedom in this country the majority rules so vote pleas.

Our House and Senate has been affected by some time by bribes. Bribes from who--- why the big Corporations and Associations who keep their lobby groups at the Capitol year round. We need lobbying legislation badly, but will never get it due to what Will Rodgers used to call- The grease on the tracks. Our Senators and Reps do not want to inhibit this at all, they get huge perks, vacations, hunting and fishing extravaganzas, condo stays in Florida... as well as a job with them if booted out of Congress. Our vote gets them there, but once they are there, they are part of the good ole boys club..... and I am talking Democrats as well as Republicans. The Corn Growers Assoc. along with the 9 grain producing states Congressional members and agri. corporations want Ethanol.... it's a cash cow to all them above.... and we pay the price.

To the readers who suggest we should direct our anger and frustration at Congress instead of refineries, I ask: How many times have you called, written to or e-mailed our Louisiana Senators and your District Congressman demanding REPEAL of the Renewal Fuel Standard (RFS) and let refineries produce what the market demands? I'll bet very FEW had done this.........I do it almost WEEKLY. Did you read the letter I just wrote to ALL of our Louisiana U.S. Washington delegation last week? It's on my website's 'Pete's Articles' page.

And, 'KennyD', I am FULLY AWARE of that article and plan to run it on my website this week.

How about a 'COMPROMISE' readers? When we get at least 3,000 signatures on the petition (preferably 5,000), what if I ALSO mail a copy of the petition to our Louisiana U.S. Senators (2) and each Representives (6) AND, the head of the EPA. That is easily done! If we do that, then WILL YOU JOIN THE FIGHT RATHER THAN FIGHTING US??

As I indicated in an early reply (above), REFINERIES HATE ETHANOL and through their trade associations and lobbyists are fighting it almost daily!

'Pete'

I signed the petition mainly in hoping that Chalmette Refinery will produce a small amount of pure gas to sell to 10-12 stations around our areas. Maybe this can be a community service of sorts by them. It will cost them money for sure, because of the way it's set up by the Feds. But I agree Pete, we should label this petition also as a call against Ethanol and forward it to our Reps. I do not believe anyone holds anything towards Chalmette Refinery.... it's mainly folks are desperate to get pure gas instead of crap.

great comment on the house and senate!!!! you are one honest man and you are absolutely 100% CORRECT!!! I've asked on this site who trust their government and I see you don't and neither do I big time!!!! all they want to do is fill up them big ole pockets!! I never saw any of them retire poor or even middle class yet, have you?? that's why they spend so much money to get elected, best paying job they got!!!! guaranteed to make millions!!!!

Pete, I do not get to call weekly. But, I do get several calls and emails in on a monthly basis. I am not retired.
Here is a conversation between you and I in early May when you 1st posted about Chalmette Refinery...........

Pathfinder24
Posted May 09 at 9:16am
Yes we are
Yes Pete we are. I have lost one outboard and one jetski motor due to ethanol. I used sta-bil when I knew the motors would sit for a while. I do run 10% in my truck because of the gas station closest to my house has it. But every other engine I have, I use non-ethanol.

I fish for pleasure. It is my relaxation and passion. I work hard so I can afford to fish when I want and as much as I want. As I said before, I am willing to help fight this issue. But, between my work and my relaxation, I want to direct my efforts to the core of the problem.
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Posted May 09 at 9:48am
I Agree Pathfinder
YES, Pathfinder, we are on the same page. I too agree the crux of the problem is the EPA and the Renewal Fuel Standard. I've e-mailed Senators David Vitter and Mary Landrieu and my congressman dozens of time URGING them to REPEAL the Renewal Fuel Standard! They are feeling the 'heat' from their constituents more and more.

BY the way, I'll be on Don Dubuc's WWL Radio Talk show in a few minutes......at 10:00 am. He substitutes for Garland Robinette on the 'Think Tank show' on Fridays.

'Pete'

With that said, I will not sign a petition if it is directed to any refinery. It must be directed to congress. Now if you want to send a copy of said petition to a refinery so they can see what the consumers of this state want conventional gasoline at the majority of fuel stations in this state. Then, that copy must go to ALL the REFINERIES in this state.

Once again Pete, I'm not fighting you on this. I strongly believe one refinery is not the answer. Congress is.
Pete you know that ethanol mandate has affected the price of corn. Which has affected the price of beef,pork, milk, and many more commodities. Not to mention the price in seafood in our own back yard bcause of what it cost to get the seafood.
I know families in the Midwest will be affected if the mandate is changed. But why should they thrive while we suffer. We citizens should have a CHOICE in what fuel we want.
Once again, I really do appreciate the information you have given us over the years on the effects of ethanol. I'm sorry if you felt insulted by me saying you were fighting the wrong battle. But the most precious commodity to me, is my free time. If my free time is spent some where other than with my family. It will not be spent spinning my wheels. Sorry if that offends you and other readers on this website. We are individuals. We have differences. And in the beginning......... It's what made this country great. Not so much now.

That's a great comment. But do understand. Chalmette is not the only refinery in that community. There is Valero. Which, as a company, not only received tax breaks for BLENDING ethanol. They receive tax breaks for PRODUCING ethanol. They also should be doing a ' community service'.
The 5 largest ethanol producers
Source: Mar 12, 2012

The United States produced an estimated 13.8 billion gal. of ethanol in 2011. Five companies produced more than 40% of that total.

ADM - This Decatur, Ill.-based grain and oilseed processor produces 1.75 billion gal./yr. It operates seven ethanol production plants. Visit www.adm.com.

Poet - Headquartered in Sioux Falls, S.D., Poet produces 1.6 billion gal./yr. at 27 production plants. Visit www.poet.com.

Valero Energy Corporation - This company produces 1.2 billion gal./yr. at 10 production plants. It is headquartered in San Antonio, Texas. Visit www.valero.com.

Green Plains Renewable Energy - Headquartered in Omaha, Neb., Green Plains produces 740 million gal./yr. at different production plants. Visit www.gpreinc.com.

Flint Hills Resources LP - This Wichita, Kan., company produces 440 million gal./yr. at four production plants. Visit www.fhr.com.

...this is gett'n better than the 'Keystone Cops' with Charlie Chaplain !!!...cheers

p/s...he who rides Tiger must go were tiger going !!!

Beast, I know just how the system works in D.C.... I was sent up there in 1988,89, and 90 by the company I worked for on matters concerning the nation's farm bill and agri. regs. This was before the Ethanol push... but some of the farm states had already passed laws in those states mandating the use at 10% in their gas. I took tours of many farms, but could not find an ounce of ethanol fuel on any of them... the same farmers will not use it in any of the gas operated equipment or vehicles. I worked for ADM, which is the largest producer of ethanol in the country. A lot of folks may not realize how all of this got started... so here is a history lesson. We were hit with an oil embargo in 1973 by OPEC, the oil producing cartel, made up mainly of Arab states, some others. They wanted to punish us for providing Israel with support and weapons in the 1973 Arab-Israel conflict. It affected this country greatly and led to a recession and gas lines in 73-74. We had another 'oil shortage' in 77... and again our economy suffered greatly. It was then that some of the folks in Wash. came up with the 10% blend of ethanol to help with our dependency of foreign oil and help farmers...who were going broke by the droves from depressed WW11 era grain prices and other causes, (some Gov. produced). Remember Farm Aid? Well, the Gov. approached a lot of companies about starting up ethanol plants...but none were interested at that time. So when they approached ADM, the said they would provide a subsidy of about 54 million dollars to make it worth while to build plants and take the risks. That's how the countries' ethanol production got started. For a long while ADM and one or two smaller companies were the only ones producing, until it was mandated to be used across the nation, then it was a free for all with companies popping up everywhere that had zero experience...because everyone smelled money. When I was in D.C.... before the ethanol mess got started, I saw firsthand how little say the average citizen has in how this country does things and how laws and regs. are passed. We just vote them into office, and then they join the club. Like I said, it can be Democrat, or Republican... they both feed at the trough of the lobbyists. They will never be reform, because they make the laws and they will make sure that one is never voted on.
Ethanol is well entrenched now, and I'm not saying it will never go away, but it will be a battle to do so. And, like Pete said, most Americans only pay lip service to our problems...and the politicians know this.

thanks for the history lesson and the reply! I do remember them long gas lines, people got some crazy! do you remember (GASAHOL) THAT WAS TRASH ALSO!!! saw a couple fights while waiting, no guns thank goodness, at least where I was anyway??! ya, none of them care about us or our problems! its all about them keeping their big ole pockets full to the top!! sad part is, it will never change!!!

I know I said I wouldnt post again, but yall are making this way more complicted than it needs to be. The process to stop ethanol production doesn't involve refineries, congessman or anyone but yourself. If everyone makes a conscious decison to stop buying it, trust me the refineries will stop making it. Once they see that they can't move it there will be no more reason to produce it, and no mandate or drunk congressman will sway them. It all starts with you, don't be baited in by the few cents cheaper price per gallon, stand firm and do not purchase any ethanol products, except a good whiskey or bourbon of course

...Geronimo likes Black Jack on'da 'Rocks'...(it's outlawed by Indian Affairs Agents)...cheers

GOT IT! WE WANT ETHANOL FREE GAS, but the government wont let us have it!! now we know what the Indians went thru right!! wasn\'t good then and still the same ole government but worst!!! they didn't care about the Indians then and don't care about anybody now!! its all greed!!! you made your point sure cant argue!!!

...Beast,the only thing changed is bigger volcabulary, news distractions and head games and that some free world contries feel sorry for us losing the right to choose...have you heard N.Y. state abolished over six different taxes to help the middle class...cheers

Mr. Branch, would you please clarify one point in your post for me? You say that if all consumers would stop buying ethanol gas, refineries would be forced to manufacture and sell non ethanol gas.

If over 95% of the stations nationwide (7 States have laws that require ALL gas sold in their states MUST contain ethanol) sell ONLY ethanol gas, and the number of stations that sell non ethanol gets less and less (many, many have either closed or switched to 'corn gas' already in south east Louisiana since Chalmette Refining stopped making E0), can you share with reader just WHERE will consumers find enough non ethanol gas with fewer and fewer stations that sell it so they don't have to buy E10?? You suggestion makes ABSOLUTELY NO SENSE Sir. Think about it?

As is, since the gasoline consumption in the U.S. has gone DOWN each year since 2007, refineries are not able to sell all the gas they manufacture in the U.S., so they are shipping lots of their gas to foreign countries (I got this from friends who work for Marathon and Shell).

'Pete'

Obviously if you live in a freak state like Florida and the other 6 states that dont allow non-ethanol fuel then yes it is hard for you to avoid ethanol, not impossible but hard. On a previous post I listed three places to buy nonethanol fuel that lie just in my little 100 mile travel circle. There are places to buy nonethanol fuel. If you buy ethanol products and then complain about not having nonethanol then you are a hippocrite, and then if you do it and have a website and ask people to sign a petition and send you money: you are probably the world's biggest hippocrite.

Folks who work and who have kids would really have a tough time going 50-100 miles away to purchase non ethanol fuel.... are you serious?????

You're missing the point. Once the last refinery stops producing non ethanol gas and all of your non ethanol spots dry up then what are you going to do? Because as of right now that's what is happening.

Pete, Just want to thank you for what you do. It may not seem like it on here, but your work is much appreciated by many.

It never fails to amaze me how inconsiderate some folks can be. Spend your own money and time informing people like me, that don't have the time to stay fully tuned in with things of this nature, only to be criticized because your not doing it their way. News Flash: Nobody gives a crap what you folks think.

Thanks again Pete.

these other guys will never get it no matter what is said!!! some people just cant see the forest because of the trees! its a lack of common sense and logic! I think tom branch is more jealous of pete than anything else!! i'm still laughing at tom branches idea, how can anyone actually think that would really work??? that would be a catastrophe!! yep pete thanks!!

First of all , THANKS to those of you who recognize what we are trying to do. Readers like Tom Branch just don't get it. And, by the way Mr. Branch, last year the Florida Legislature and their Governor signed into law a bill that REPEALS the previous Florida law which required that ALL gasoline sold in Florida contain 10% ethanol. If you kept up with my website you would know that as I posted this information last year.

As of late this afternoon, the petition count is OVER 500 and counting. I removed the 'counter' below the 'Orange' button as I learned it ONLY counted petitions in which those who entered their petition ALSO registered their petition on the automatically generated e-mail which was sent to their 'e-mail in-box' after they signed their registration.

PLEASE, ALL READERS, it is CRITICAL that you complete ALL the lines on the Petition form, NOT only those that have an asterisk. I had to send out near 100 e-mails today to readers who entered the petition but FAILED TO ENTER THEIR ADDRESS, CITY, STATE AND ZIP CODE! This is a HUGE consumption of my time! If you were one of those, PLEASE reply to my e-mail and send me your address info. ALSO, no P.O. Box for addresses, ONLY street number, name, city, state and zip.

'Pete'

Readers, the number of readers signing the Petition is SLOWING DOWN! Please be sure to tell ALL your friends about the petition and URGE them to please sign up.

We're have about 550 signatures as of Wednesday night, FAR short of a goal of 3,000 - 5,000 I had hoped for.

'Pete'

sure will!

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