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north of clinton, La Deer numbers

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just floating this feeler out there.
yall who hunt this area, have you noticed a decline in numbers of deer? not just this season but, lets say the last 5 or so years. just a little history. the past 15 years hogs tore up our lease, now not seeing any on the stands, and very very few on camera. the ones on camera are solo.(not complaining, happy)
coyotes in years past were heard every evening. this year none.
this year it seemed like the rut never happened or it was a very short one.
checking in with yall around this area to hear your comments.
will talk more to those interested.

WB
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   BR Hunter
We are having the exact same problem in Centerville, MS......seems to be a common problem with the other clubs in the area.
What have y'all tried to get them into the food plots?
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we have always done rye grass, this year we tried two or three spots with a mix, they did not even touch it.
I know its not just us, we have heard very few shots this year around the lease. hell, really don't even see them when its dark driving on 67.
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   BR Hunter
Do you guys have feeders out? If so, are they eating it?
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We're just North of Greensburg - 900 acres of pine plantation with an intermittent stream running through the middle of it with a few oaks, Ten members with a limit of three deer per member. No guests except youngsters, and anything killed by them goes against the sponsor's limit.

We had lots of hogs a few years ago and have none now - ZILCH/ZERO. Also had tons of coons and are seeing very few now. Coyotes are still bad though.

Deer population has been very low for the last three years. We stopped shooting does for the 2012/13 and 2013/14 season, and allowed one doe per member this year.

Last season was truly horrible. This year was a little better, but not until after Christmas. Darn few deer sightings before that. As best we can tell, the rut kicked in around Jan 3rd. and is now over.

So far this year we've taken 3 does and 9 bucks (one 10pt, one 8pt, two 7pts. two 6pts, one 3pt, and two spikes).

We have 20 food plots of about a half acre each planted in wheat, oats, and clover, and also have some corn feeders. The deer hardly touched the plots or the corn until this past week.

In previous years they kept the plots mowed down like a putting green. Right now the wheat is a foot tall.
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I am experiencing the same here in Centreville. Deer numbers spiked downward. Food plots that are usually eaten to the ground are being barely used. Hogs not a problem. I have read some recent comments on some of the Ms. websites of hunters experiencing this. Disease???
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I'm north of Clinton between Liberty and Centreville. We havent notices any decline in deer. If anything, I see more deer now than in the past. We have 1400 acres with about 8 members that actually hunt. 1-11 point, and 5-8 points have been taken so far this year. Im not sure the number on does so far. We've never been a club that sees deer every hunt but I've been there for 10 years and see no real changes in our herd.
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   biga
Deer numbers are down. Had die off due to blue tongue few years ago. This is why the area has gone to doe days only during the weekends. Heard this from local extension agent
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thanks for the input so far.
to touch on some of yall's points.
about the plots and corn feeders.one of our best plots with rye grass on it we had not one pic of a deer or hog, and it was next to an active deer corn feeder.
when I say I am north of Clinton, I am 9 miles north. hunting right under 400 acres. no pressure from surrounding leases, meaning no shots, no atv traffic, no dogs running, nothing.
I was also thinking of diseases but have not heard of any for the area. does wlf have a site that publishes these findings?
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   sako11
I hunt northwest of clinton and our sightings are down because we did some select logging and changed there travel routes.We saw deer early up to about the second week of december, since then very few.From then on its been all at night in our food plots, they are tearing it up and also chasing in the plots also we did manage to take two 8pts the first two weekends of december, thats when our rut starts.Also knocked down a 250lb boar and some does earlier .We have hogs but they travel in and out of our property.The acorn crop was huge and I think that hurt us because they do not have to move far to eat.We are still seeing some chasing for the secondary rut but you have to be lucky to be in the right place and time.
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   hunt r
Tensas, East Carroll and Ouachita were the worst I've ever seen. But that was predictable when they decided to open doe day every day. But the few that are left are healthy, isn't that whats important? All of the things ya'll raise contribute to mortality every year, but all together do not equal more than 10% of the overall pop.
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This year was a tremendous acorn crop. In fact, acorns are still viable on the ground this late in the year.

Had no problem seeing deer in Tensas this year. They really really like natural foods over food plots or corn. Find you a honey locust tree or oak tree that is producing and you will find the deer. Leave the plots for the 'sitters', go to the deer
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   hunt r
Oak trees and pecans make almost every year. If you still have acorns on the ground then you have very few deer. What about the areas like the Miss. river islands that are too sandy to have oak trees? Funny you say that because we have a large honey locust tree in our driveway. For the first time they are still laying on the ground. We have bears so we never use corn and hunt grown up grass fields and dew berry flats, not food plots. I saw a large 9pt and bigger 8pt, small 8pt and half a dozen spikes, but I usually see that many in one day. Glad your season was better.r
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   copiah28
Where I am around Grangeville (east of Clinton but a few miles southwest of Greensburg) We had a terrible year. our club is about 1200 acres and we had 2 does, a spike, and 2 6 points killed. Normally we have about 8 bucks killed with one or two does but last few years its been getting progressively worse. Didn't see too many hogs this year however, whole club killed maybe 3.
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   JB
I'm with hunt r on this one. It has been open season on does for several years, how can that NOT impact the herd?
People, myself included, want to shoot big deer. But, they also want to see a bunch of deer. Those 2 things don't really go together. You need to pick one or the other.
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SOME oaks produce every year. This year has been a BUMPER crop of all mast from oaks to even pines. If you know any biologist or technician that deals with banding turkeys they are having a very very tough time getting turkeys to come to bait right now because the acorns and natural foods are still abundant. They are passing up big wheat piles to go to the natural stuff. Deer and bears do the same when the natural stuff is out there. Natural forage > than a food plot, corn feeder, etc. Get out the box stand and find the mast trees
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   hunt r
It doesn't hurt to hunt does every day when there is plenty of deer. But it takes about 5 yrs for low numbers to rebuild with no hunting mortality so hunting them everyday with low numbers makes it hard to recover. I believe we have too few bucks, not too many does. If you had to tag a knothead with a buck tag, which they are, then u would see a big change.How can u manage for bucks when u don't even count half the population of bucks that are killed? When wma's report there 50-50 buck-doe ratios they count knotheads as bucks.
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