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Purchased a Rossi 243cal. youth rifle with a Bushnell scope.
Sited it in last year. Went to the range to check it and it is shooting all over the target. Using Federal Premium 100gr. BTSP amo. Checked scope mounts and every thing is tight. Any suggestions on what could be going on or what else can be checked? Any info would be appreciated.
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My advice would be to upgrade to a higher quality scope, such as a Nikon.
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You can shoot a couple of rounds with open sights to check the gun. If it shoots fine, im with ducks, get a better scope. If it still shoots wild with open sights..... Upgrade both.

SS
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   Capt Ross
Make sure all bolts that hold stock to barrel and trigger mechanism are tight.
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   Rville
I bought the same rife for my son 2 years ago. Could not get less than a four inch group with 4 different bullets and 3 different scopes. Got a buddy of mine to shoot it, same results. Brought it back to where I got it and they had the same problem. So, they cut 2 inches off the barrel and said problem solved. NOT!! Ended up giving the gun away.
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Rip Off, i bought the exact gun for my daughters and had the same problem. I'm not sure what type of scope mounts you used, but check them. I had weavers on it and they are junk. I bought a good pair of Leupold mounts and re did everything and i groups really well now. Before at a 100 yards there was no telling where it would hit. I tightened the mounts twice before i got pissed and threw them away. I have not made any changes to the sighting since switching the mounts. Good luck!!!
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   Clayton
Are your rings as far out as they can be? Ha d that problem (rings too close)on a rifle before and was doing the same things as what you are describing.Make sure that you use a rest to shoot from also to elminate human error.
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   hunter11
I was shooting a 30-06 and had switched kinds of bullets. seems the ones I had been shooting before I had no problems, but when I went to shoot before the season I was all over the place with the new box of bullets. maybe I got a bad box or something, but when I went back to my original bullets I was right on. so maybe just try another box of bullets
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I had this problem with a Ruger M77 30-06. Someone suggested that I might have let the barrel get too hot sighting it in one year and that cause the barrel to get "leaded". I tried different bullets, different scopes, different types of barrel cleaners. I sold the gun, bought a Remington 710 .243 and I have yet to miss! With the old gun, I would miss 1 or 2 times every year.
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   fishhead
easiest things first. clean the barrel very well. make sure to remove any lead/copper fouling. this will give you fits with sighting in a gun
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I purchased the same gun from Accademy, along with three other guys I hunt with. We all had the same problem. I spent countless hours and lots of money tring to figure out the problem. Tried different scope, mounts and 4 brands of bullets.My gun and 2 others have been sent back to Rossi. I called today to find the status on the gun. I was told the it would be at least 3-4 before they could look at it. I basicly have a gun for my son that he won't be able to use this year. What a dissapointment. The people at Rossi had no sympothy for me. I feel like a bought a lemon from a used car dealer.I requested my money back from Accademy and they have a no refund policy on guns. Did the same to Rossi and I was basicly laughed at. I really hope they find something wrong with the gun so I am not stuck with a useless gun. I belive I am going to start a list of people with the same problems and get something going as a group.
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   xtradirty
I just bought a 410/22 youth for my 6yr old mainly for ducthunting. Has anyone ever had problems with the shoutgun.
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   TP
the cheap scope mounts they put on the package deals. Invest in some quality mounts and it should straigten out. I cannot imagine how a crack barrel rifle in and of itself could shoot anything but straight. The problem has to lie between the mounts and the scope.

If it does not, Louisiana redhibition law provides a remedy against a manufacturer that allows for a refund or reduced price as well as for attorney fees for a defective product. It is pretty consumer oriented so you would probably ultimately get some remedy. Just depends on how long and how much they want to spend fighting it!
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   Century19
One buddy has the Rossi the other the New Englande arms. Both single shot crack barrel 243 youth models. Hands down, the New England Arms shoots better and is more forgiving. It is also heavier which gives less recoil for the kids or women. I will be buying one for my seven year old next hunting season. But I also have to say, quality scope and mounts are a must. I think the problem with the Rossi comes into play because of the interchangeable barrels. For some reason they seem to be a little sloppy feeling compared to the New England Arms. Other manufacturers have interchangeable barrels, yet there quality is much better with less slop. Buy the New England Arms youth model and then as they grow up you can chang out the stock.
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   36racin
My son shoots a Rossi Youth 243/20gauge combo. Not purchased at Academy!!!! I invested in good quality Leopold mounts and a Nikon Prostaff scope for it. I recently purchased a Caldwell Lead Sled and will never sight in a gun without using it. Don't get me wrong the gun shot good groups before the sled purchase. We shoot Winchester 95gr Silver Balistic tips with no issues at all. I know the Academy package is hard to beat but I personally would invest in better mounts and a scope. My son also shoots a Rossi Youth 50cal muzzleloader with Leopold mounts and a Bushnell shotgun scope. No issues with it either.
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i bought my lil boy the same gun. no problems and he is deadly with it. my wife has the.243/20 combo with a 2.5x10x50 simmons w/charles daly rings, that thing shoots better than any rifle i own. when she don't come hunting i take her gun. we shoot 100gr. winchester power points.
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   xtradirty
Thanks Buckfever. He will get his first lesson Sat.
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   ripoff
Gonehunting, Where did you purchase the leuopold scope mounts? Did you get just the base or the rings also. I am using the base that came with the gun but did buy the rings seperately. May try different mounts first.

Thanks again everyone!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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I brought the Rossi .223 youth for my son and at a hundred yards he can keep 8 shots in a 3 inch group!!!..he's 10yrs old!!...The problem I found is the fwd strap screw pushes on the barrel to much!!...You may have to loosen it or tighten it till the gun shoots properly...than glue the thing where its at!!!....Hope this helps!!!
Cajun
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I bought the base and the rings at Songy's Sporting Goods in Houma. I put everything new on it.
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Get rid of the Bushnell scope they are garbage my opinion. I have had the same problem with Bushnell. You really do get what you pay for.
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   ripoff
Anyone else know where I can get some good mounts and rings in the Kenner, Metairie area. Also what grain bullets are you all shooting in your 243's.
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I'm using 100 gr rem. corloc. My daughters haven't killed anything with it yet, but i shot a doe last year with it to try it out, and it dropped her in her tracks. I still rather my A-Bolt 300 WSM though. I also changed the scope on the 243 i have. I found a Buris with the lighted dot in the reticle on ebay for 125.00 and put it on there.
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Did you Lap the barrel? Many new guns come with cosmolene grease in them. If you start shooting right away without using lapping compound in the barrel, your results will varry. If you run several patches with lapping compound through the barrel, then clean it as usual, with an oil soaked patch at the end... Then run a couple of dry patches through before sighting... You may see a difference.
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You said you bought the gun last year and sighted it in and went to check it and it's all over the place. Did it shoot good groups last year? Where was the gun stored between seasons? I have never owned a Rossi, but have notice a lot of post on this sight with kids knocking the deer down. I have even looked at them at Academy. Not getting one any time soon, but didn't look to bad. Would also like to know if somethings wrong with them.
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   sako11
Get rid of the bushnell scope,some of them will hold zero for awhile but evenually jump all over the place.Had one on my muzzleloader, couldn't do nothing with it.Bought a nikon buckmaster 3x9x40 for $199 at walmart,also burris is good for the money, also good solid mounts and rings are very important.
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toetag, my wife has one with a simmons scope and it is a great gun. i haven't found any bugs in this gun. i didn't buy it with a scope, i mounted my own scope on it. i'll post when she drops her first deer.
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Ripoff, you can buy the Leupold base and mounts at Puglia's. They should be $20 to $25 each, but it's worth the money. I've also had great results with Millet rings and mounts. Additionally, I recommend Simmons scopes as far as quality for the price. Bushnell has never delivered for me.

I plan to by the Rossi triple play for my five year old daughter this summer, when she turns six. It has a .20 ga, .22 cal, and .243 barrels for about $250. Thankfully it does not come with a scope. I'm going to use Leupold or Millet rings and bases with a Simmons 22 mag for the .22 barrel. On the .243 I plan to put the Simmons Pro Hunter Master Series. Now if she stays with hunting, I'll upgrade the .243 when she is a teenager to a bolt action Browning or Remington with a Leupold or Zeiss scope. I will likely stay with the .243 at that point, but will consider the 7mm-08.
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   ripoff
Bought the Rossi Tripple Play. 20guage, 22 Long Rifle, and 243 cal. at a local gun shop. The gun came with the scope base and had the gun shop put rings and scope (Bushnell Sportsman 3x9x32) on it and bore sight it. Sighted in the scope and after a few adjustments it was hitting bulls eye. My son killed a bobcat with it at 50 yards. We did change the barrel and put the 22 and 20guage on several times. This year it's all over the target. Cleaned the barrel on it yeaterday. Plan to put the iron sights on first and check the gun first. If that is OK will get some different mounts and rings and a scope.
Hopefully this will remedy the problem. Called Puglia's and they don't have base and rings for that gun but Academy says they have Leupold base and rings in stock.
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   boudy30
I have the New England I bought for my kids and had same problem. I tried 3 different scopes and still could not get the gun to shoot anything consistant. I finally changed to a leupold mount and switched from 100 grain winchesters to 80 grain remingtons and that did the trick. The gun now shoots within 1 inch circle at 100 yards with a Bushnell Scope. Good Luck
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i really think it is the ammuniton. I used a box of winchester ammo and had somewhat of a group. then went to the federal ammo you just listed. The stuff was flying all over the place. Got some of the remington 95gr balistic tip ammo and will not go back. I have recoverd on slug and it mushrooms beautifully. I have shot three deer with the gun and not one of the deer has moved more than 2 feet from where it was hit. Everyshot has landed where I was aiming. I am sold on this ammo.
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Ripoff, be sure to post an update. I'm curious to know if your changes worked as I'm planning to buy this gun for my daughter.
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I bought the same rifle combo for my 10 year old son, except it came with a Simmons 3x9 scope. I also shoot the same Federal Premium 100gr BTSP. I did a couple things to it after shooting it a few times:

1. Tighten down that front sling swivel with a drop of glue on the threads. This is what holds the barrel to the fore-end and you need to make sure it doesn't move.

2. remove and reset the scope mount, using lock-tite or fingernail polish on the screws.

3. Get a Beartooth comb-raising kit from Cabela's for about $20.00. It is a neoprene sleeve with foam spacers of various thickness to adjust the comb. For a youth rifle the comb is too great; I'm 6'4" tall and my eye just barely aligns with the scope, so a kid's eye just won't come anywhere close and they will never shoot straight without a solid cheek weld. It was a stupid oversight by Rossi, but this is an easy fix.

4. buy a couple boxes of ammo and have the child shoot it over and over and over again. this is the only way to build confidence in them to shoot straight.

5. bring your cleaning kit to the range with you. for some reason those bullets foul that barrel quickly. after 4 or 5 shots you need to scrub it out or you'll never get it to shoot consistently.

This really is a nice rifle set-up, especially at the $194.00 selling price. Yesterday at the range I was shooting 2" groups at 100 yards with it. Then my son finally got on the paper at 50 yards before we ran out of shells. Now it looks like he'll kill his first deer with it sooner rather than later, after he shoots it some more.

Hope this helps.
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   bass101
I purcahsed a Rossi .308 cal for my son. At 100 yards the gun will shoot 2" groups. I did put Leupold mounts and a Nikon Scope on the gun.
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i would say get a new scope you do get bad ones sometimes.as far as cleaning it every 3 or 4 shoots as someone said i think that is a little bit crazy!!!
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Well I got my son's Rossi .243 youth model back this past Friday from repair to Rossi. Accademy gave me a box of bullets for my troubles. Rossi sent me a letter back saying that they found nothing wrong with the accuracy of the gun. They also sent me a target which they shot 6 times. Target had one hole at 3 inchs high and 2 inches to the left. Then it states on the target that the scope was adjusted and there were 5 more holes dead in the bulls eye. At the bottom of the target it says 25 yards. WELL THAT IS JUST WONDERFUL, ROSSI!!!!! IT GROUPS AT 25 YARDS, IF YOU WOULD READ MY LETTER CORRECTLY YOU WILL SEE I STATED IT WON'T GROUP AT 100 YARDS. I took the gun to the range yesterday and shot it. Sure enough, the group was about 8 inches at 100 yards with 5 shots, 6 inches at 50 yards 5 shots. Total unacceptable!!

For those of you sending feed back on what to try next, please read what I have tried already.

4 differnet kinds of bullets.

1. Winchester Super X 80 grain
2. Remington core lock 100 grain
3. Federal Premium balstic tip 100 grain
4. Winchester Suprme balstic tip 100 grain

I have tried a differet scope, so that is two scopes that have been on the gun.

I have tried different rings. I now have the Leupold rings on the gun.

I have removed the base and secured it with lock tight.

I have shot it and cleaned the barrel after every two or three shots.

I have tried tightning the fore stock, I have tried losing the fore stock, I have even tried shooting it with out the form stock on it period. I can't see any reason why the stock should be floating or on it tight on a crack barrel gun, but I tried it anyway.

I give up!!!

Rossi youth model for sale, make offer.

Also let me add that 3 other guys I hunt with are haviung the same problem. We sent 3 of the 4 guns back to Rossi. One gun the barrel was replaced. We still don't know how it shoots yet, and the other gun I am not sure what Rossi did to it.

For those of you saying your Rossi shoots great I am happy for you. Good luck with the gun. I hope your son/daughter uses it well for years to come and I hope they can hand it down to there children. I'll get plenty use out of mine with the barrel stuck in the ground at the camp for a horse shoe pole.

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   Century19
rip off

sorry to hear you are having so much trouble with your Rossi. May I suggest you look into the New England Arms single shot .243. Couple of guys at the camp have them and have worked great. Comparably priced to the Rossi.
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If Accademy would give me my money back I would gladly go with the New England.
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My son started off with the 243 Rossi. (Better known as a peace of junk pipe) I sold it to a gun shop and got him a 243 New England . It too, was a peace of pipe.

Buy him the Encore with the youth stock and 243 barrel.
Then he will have a gun he could use for a long time.
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could be the scope --could be the ammo--could be the weapon have you tried shooting with a vise so that the weapon cant move--i would bet on the scope
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   7MAG_JAKE
There could be a grit in the rifeling of the barrel. Sometimes when they do the barrel and the rifleing tool has debris they weont notice and youll get a grit or deris in the rifleing. Trey to put it in a Good vice ( Clad Weld etc.) it could be the scope. Changing a barrel is the last thing on your list.
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   canopener
I purchased my son a Rossi and after many many many boxes of rounds we could not get the gun to group a 12" pattern at 60 yards. I tried Top of the line mounts, new Nikon Scope, and four differnt types of bullets. The end result was a new browning that he can make 1" groups at 100 yards.
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Gun is being shot in a vice.

Rossi had the gun, you think they would have looked at the barrel. Neighbor's gun had barrel changed. I am still waiting on the result of shooting it.
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With out a doubt the problem is either the shooter, the gun, the bullets, the scope mounts, the rings or the scope! haha Seriously do let us know how this one turns out.

We use to use the Bushnell 3x9-32 sportsview scope years ago. And I, my brother, cousins or uncles never had any trouble with it.
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