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Proposed East Zone Boundary Change

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Thank You Larry for your proposal. I hope it passes. I have been waiting for this change since 2001. It will definitely have a positive impact on my hunting area. again cannot thank you enough!
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Remember that whether you like or dislike any or all of the proposed changes, I hope you will contact me. Usually, those who oppose proposed actions are disproportionately more likely to express an opinion.
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I dont think the southeast hunters will like being set back another week for the opening. Good luck passing this one.
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Actually, the East Zone opens 2 WEEKS later than the Coastal Zone this year! Have no idea how Larry would stagger the 3 zone openings with the proposed new boundaries, but would guess that it would be similar to the past with 3 different dates.

The season dates will be the same in Venice as they will be in Monroe......DUMB!!!! SE LA would get to hunt until the end of January and set up for those late migrating Scaup and Ringnecks instead of Mallards.
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East Zone is way too big!
With that proposed East Zone, it looks like the marsh hunters in SELA will be starting on 1 Dec because the North LA hunters only want to shoot late Mallards in flooded timber. I would like to see the proposed East Zone split into a Northeast Zone and a Southeast Zone. SELA would hunt 31 Oct to 29 Nov and 12 Dec to 16 Jan.
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Is there a date framework that goes along with the proposed zones. Is it the framework of the current season dates? Not sure if I'm crazy about SE marsh season being pushed back 2 weeks.
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Absolutely love these new boundaries, thanks Larry Reynolds!
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I was at the meeting about this in Jefferson, several other alternative were proposed both by Mr. Reynolds and the audience. The crowd was small and probably 6 of the 10 people there favored moving SELA back to the East Zone. 3 of us favored having the coastal zone with a second weekend of November opener and my wife thought we were all silly for making a fuss since year to year variations in whether make changes in the opening dates irrealavant to success. Realize that 3 zones is the most we are allowed so endlessly parsing zones the way deer seasons are set isn't an option. It would certainly be more informative if the commission (authors of this map) would include a basic season framework for the three zones. In other words do they intend to continue opening the coastal zone the first weekend in November, and what is thd long term plan for the west zone. Presumably the East Zone will follow the long standing pattern of opening the Saturday before thanksgiving. Honestly my suggestion was to create a West zone from AR to the gulf and then create a Northeast and Southeast Zone with the North east opening the weekend before thangkiving and the Southeast opening the Saturday nearest 11/15. I note that the commission has arbitrarily split thd Atchafalaya Delta out of SELA, for people who claim to want 'biology not opinion driven seasons' this seems strange. Politically it makes sense because if you consider the true 'coastal marsh' habitats of our state to be all those areas not abutting agriculture then everything from the Atchafalaya to the Lower Pearl fits together and that strip of territory would likely contain 70% of the states duck hunters, explaining why the majority of the states duck hunters have to choose between management taylored to one of two minor groups of hunters us hard so they split that esturarine independent of ag habitat in two . To me it goes back to the same issue: this commission wants a duck season that suits big $$$ hunters who hunt high dollar leases in SWLA and flooded fields and timber in NELA. And to heck with those coonazzes and rednecks on WMAs and reasonably priced coastal leases.
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If you look at the calendar for 2016 & 2017, assume that the framework for next season will be the same structure as this season, here are some potential dates: Coastal Zone will be 11/5-12/4 (30 days) then 12/17-1/15 (30days); East Zone be 11/19-12/4(16 days) then 12/17-1/29 (44 days).

Where I hunt, the overwhelming preference is to hunt more in November and less in late January.
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Then be sure to email Larry Reynolds and support the current zones pathfinder , not that the commission gives a crap what we think. But it's better to at least try.
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lanco,

Larry was contacted within the first hour the map was available for review. I have also contacted each of the Commission members with my comments for their consideration.

Larry has made his position known, for or against, the public needs to comment now and not bitch after a decision is made if they do not.
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This bianary choice is from the commission. Larry supports keeping the coast in the coastal zone and opening the second Saturday of November. LR is just the messenger here.
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If this passes we will be going back to the way it was prior to the East West Zone change that was made in 2001. I don't know where you guys hunt that say all we will be shooting is Dogs and Blackjacks in late January, but instead of shooting Pintails in eclipse plumage with no sprigs in early November we will be shooting Pintails, Greys, widgeon and Canvasbacks in full plumage at the end of January not to mention the ducks will arrive in mid October and early November and will be allowed to settle in before being shot at. I am just happy things may be going back to the way they used to be, Southeast Louisiana Back in the East Zone.
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I would definitely keep in mind that this is 'only' a proposal. I will not be surprised that the zone boundaries experience only a minute change and not this drastic thing that is stirring debate. There are more powerful forces at work here and common sense will not be favored. Lanco hit nail on head in the last few sentences about big $$ hunters, etc. Personally, I vote for the proposed change. Put southeast LA in the east zone and clean up the madness.
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As a long time duck hunter in southeast Louisiana I am not in favor of the late start to the duck season. I posted the below comment a few moths ago.

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By Mileypop:

I hunt in southeast Louisiana marsh. I am for the early start not so much for the fact that the ducks may or may not be here but for the fact that at the end of the season the ducks don't fly. At the end of the season there are thousands of ducks sitting still as they have figured out the game by then.

Some will say you have to change tactics or go where the ducks are. Nice idea but there are leases involved and that is a problem.

I will roll the dice that I can shoot some teal and a few greys early.

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I was out riding in the marsh this past weekend and there are more ducks in our area now than this time last year. Based on what I saw the drought in the agriculture fields up north must be having an impact on the ducks stopping up north of us. We may be in for a good year if conditions remain the same, similar to 2011.

Here is my question. If we do bang em up with the early start this year which could happen, how can the late start be justified???

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thanks for the proposed zone changes Mr Larry, hunting in southern Lafourche parish myself and a lot of the people we hunt with would like to see our area go back to east zone with later opening dates , mostly hunting salt water marshes we do not have the natural feed that other areas have so we depend more on colder temps to push birds our way , yea with late season hunting you do have to change up hunting tactics and move around more but that is hunting and sometimes that's what makes it fun
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It's season dates!
It really is about season dates, NOT zone boundaries, right? Our hunter-opinion surveys consistently show that over 80% of LA hunters use only 1 zone and about 1% hunt in all 3. So it's the season dates that are important, NOT the zone boundaries.

I sincerely believe this would not have been as big an issue this year had the Commission not set the Coastal Zone season for a week earlier than recommended. You all know that I strongly support opening the Coastal Zone on the second Saturday in November and living with the calendar variation which moves that date between Nov. 8 and Nov. 14. I firmly support that for a variety of reasons including the fact that it NEVER puts the youth hunt on Halloween.

But many of you wouldn't accept that, and last year you worked to get the season set a week later when the opener was Nov. 8.

Well, you got your come-uppance this year when those who didn't like what you did last year, worked to get the season set a week earlier this year when the second Saturday was the 14th.

Well that's a BS way to do business! Look at the overall result. We had 1 later day last year than we would have had this year if the LDWF recommended season dates were left alone, AND we have 1 earlier day this year than we would have had last year had the dates been left alone. REALLY? 1 earlier day and 1 late day, but EVERYBODY pissed off?

What is the solution, if as a group, we are not willing leave it as the second Saturday in November?

Zone changes.

And why might that work?

Because there has been consistency in that East Zone gets later dates.

Many of you have argued right here on this forum that SE LA should never have been moved out of the East Zone. So this was an easy proposal to make, whether I agree or disagree.

Lanco hit the nail on the head regarding the Jefferson meeting, and this is what I heard:

We would prefer the season dates remain opening on the second Saturday in November, but if the Commission is going to continue to set the Coastal Zone for the first Saturday, then we need to be in the East Zone.

That was 9 people; I'd like to hear from 900. But after recent decisions, I can't ever communicate with certainty that the Commission will act on whatever you tell me. It is only 1 of many factors influencing their decisions. What I do know with absolute certainty is that your feedback will have ZERO influence if it isn't given.
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It is about season dates, unless there is one mega zone that covers 5/8ths of the state and includes costal marsh, mid-state whatever and northern flooded timber. It is at least two different habitats with two different needs for season dates. If you want to hear from more hunters, then please have more meetings in SELA. Chalmette, Slidell, etc...
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As a life long hunter in the western Terrebonne Parish marsh there is no doubt in my mind that hunting will be better most years the 3rd weekend in November than it would be the 1st. That is what it boils down to for me. If we cant open the 2nd weekend I'd rather it be the 3rd than the 1st. Also we have four or five youths that hunt with their dads at our camp and so far all have turned down the youth opener so that they can celebrate Halloween with their friends. Moving the season up this year along with the Youth weekend to Halloween was the most asinine thing I've seen in my 35 years of duck hunting. As far as hunting late into January, I absolutely love it. Yes, the hunting is tougher and the birds are smarter but that is what makes it fun. Nothing better than killing those big northern mallards in full plumage to finish off the season. I'll take two of those over 6 blue wing teal while killing mosquitos in early November any day of the week and twice on Sunday.
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While I think SELA should remain in the CZ I certainly can understand wanting stability of dates.

One thing is certain CZ will not remain the same every year if what I have heard about a certain new commissioner is true and he has his way.
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totally agree with Brandon A,me and my hunting buddies feel the same in south lafourche
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Here is an idea that may work. Keep SE La in the coastal zone and open the season on the Saturday that is closest to Nobember 11th. That way it would be a little more consistent and not go to the extreme early or late dates with the calendar year adjustments. Would this be an option rather than jumping to the east zone and locking into the late season. Need to be consiststant and keep the year to year last minute changes from happening.
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PP I would not be surprised at all if that happens. I think the SW La. rice gets put in the EZ and SELA. ends up staying in the CZ.
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I'm in favor of the proposed East Zone changes.

I know some don't like to hunt until the end of January because the hunting is difficult and the strong north winds blow the water out their lease. But, I'm in favor of a late season. Less people in the marsh and more quality birds in my bag.

The ducks will remain in the area (as long as there is feed) even if the season starts later, say the middle of November or just before Thanksgiving. Let them sit there for a couple more weeks and get fat for us.
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In the end my wife was right, day to day weather variations influence duck hunting success more than the calendar dates. However we do know from satellite tracking data that ducks usually go coastal first then disperse northward as rainfall increases flood AG and timber. And again if we take the coast from the Atchafalaya to the Pearl you have the majority of the states hunters and they pretty clearly would like a mid-November opener rather than being forced to choose between too early or quite late. The current west zone contains
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Noose 374 wrote:

'It is about season dates, unless there is one mega zone that covers 5/8ths of the state and includes costal marsh, mid-state whatever and northern flooded timber. It is at least two different habitats with two different needs for season dates. If you want to hear from more hunters, then please have more meetings in SELA. Chalmette, Slidell, etc... '

Which is exactly how it was for 25 years from 1975 to 2001.

And public meetings are the least cost-effective way to communicate with hunters. Would meetings in Slidell, Chalmette, Houma, Crowley, Ruston, Baton Rouge, Hammond, Covington, Opelousas, Minden, or every other city I've heard people complain about not having a meeting, been any better attended than the 6 I did conduct over a 2-week period?

Of course not. People want to sit at home and have it all brought to them ..... and why not? Even with my small-but-growing e-mail contact list, I can reach over 5 times the hunters that attended the public meetings at a tiny fraction of the cost.
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I'm all for it ,I shoot more big ducks and a lot them or down were I hunt way down next to the cost. And early start for us means a few green wing teals, I love to hunt a late season that when the cold puss them to us.
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Lreynolds wrote:

'And public meetings are the least cost-effective way to communicate with hunters. Would meetings in Slidell, Chalmette, Houma, Crowley, Ruston, Baton Rouge, Hammond, Covington, Opelousas, Minden, or every other city I've heard people complain about not having a meeting, been any better attended than the 6 I did conduct over a 2-week period?Of course not. People want to sit at home and have it all brought to them ..... and why not? Even with my small-but-growing e-mail contact list, I can reach over 5 times the hunters that attended the public meetings at a tiny fraction of the cost.'

Do the emails that you receive count as 'public comment?' If so, then that is the way to go.
If not, then I would ba all for a rule that makes it mandatory for hunters to attend a meeting in order to get a hunting liscense for that year. Just like Hunter's Education.
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The sad reality is we had a fresh from the presses opinion survey that indicated a clear preference by most SELA hunters for an opening consistent with last years and the nepotistic rats of the commission told the majority of the states waterfowlers to go to hell. This situation has become another grabasstic example of politics as usual in this state! Again I don't care as much about the opening date as I do the normal process being subverted by a single moneyed diphthong who got himself posted to the commission so he could advance the interest of his multi-million dollar company!
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The sad reality is we had a fresh from the presses opinion survey that indicated a clear preference by most SELA hunters for an opening consistent with last years and the nepotistic rats of the commission told the majority of the states waterfowlers to go to hell. This situation has become another grabasstic example of politics as usual in this state! Again I don't care as much about the opening date as I do the normal process being subverted by a single moneyed diphthong who got himself posted to the commission so he could advance the interest of his multi-million dollar company!
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BrandonA hit the nail on the head. Combine what he said with letting the birds get down here and rest/fatten up for a couple weeks. Is anyone else concerned with the fact that our youth season opens in 21 DAYS! It very well could be warmer than teal season and I just don't see us getting the push we need to make the kids successful.
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Mr Larry Reynolds

This whole deal is one big cluster.

What I don't get is why are the zones created along highway. What can't the zones be done by parish? For instance, in Evangeline parish, the boundary between east and west zone is hwy 13. My place is 8 miles west of highway 13 which means we are screwed again! We need to be in the EAST ZONE. Not coastal, not west. Do it by parishes, please.
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I get that this is how the state use to be divided up, with the east megazone that covers North to SELA, but in the 70's and 80's (and some places into the 90's) we were shooting the same birds in both parts of the state...mallards. However, with the change in agriculture processes in the Midwest (or for whatever other reason), the green heads don't come to SELA anymore. And, every year my marsh is filled with grey ducks and teal in mid to late October. These same ducks disappear by early to mid January, while North LA hunters are seeing their best hunts. Different ducks, different habitat, should be a different zone.
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I wonder if it would be possible to create a North Zone and South Zone with the South Zone split east and west at the Atchafalaya River. That way the guys in the west would get there early opener and we in the east would get the second Saturday in November opener and possibly being able to hunt an extra week in January. That would Create a North Zone, South Zone East and South Zone West, this could be a happy median for all south Louisiana Waterfowl hunters.
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A north zone would not work. Northeast louisiana wants latest dates possible and a bunch of people in northwest la want to start early and have as many December days as possible. They are the ones that hunt the lakes up there. Also have a few that want late dates in nw la that hunt the flooded timber. It's a cluster.trying to please everyone and the more you try to please people the worse it gets.
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The cluster of habitats and migtraton patters accross the state is exactly the problem. And trying to please everyone is pointless.

Thats why instead of debating the Zones we should leave them the way they are and be debating the season Date frameworks.
IMO the dates for each zone should be pretty much set in stone, much like MS does it for entire state, with the only way for those guidelines to be changed is with the expressed recommendation/motion of the state leading wildfowl biologist. Then an approving majority vote by the commision to accept those changes or not for one season.

That way seasons are same in each zone every year unless Larry has scientific data to support a need for season change and the commision can approve it.

Ie: second weekend in Nov for costal unless WLF says otherwise. Then commission can vote to move it.

Zones are not the problem its changing dates year to year to please people.
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FYI we can only have 3 zones if we want a split season. Moreover once again the current W zone contains less than 10% of LA waterfowlers many of whom want an early opener. So rather than jamming all the hunters of the SE in with the NE if we are to have a AR to the gulf zone make it in the WEST with a first weekend of November opener. And have a coastal and Eastern Zone with mid and late November opening respectively. Also since 2010 mallards have made up roughly 5-6% of our total duck harvest, so why even discuss mallards when setting season dates??????
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The other issue is that the current zones group the wrong areas. For instance, where I hunt in Evangeline Parish, no ducks first split. Start shooting birds in late Dec and the after Jan. 1, progressively better (mallards and pintail) until the end of the season. We are not 'coastal'. We need the later dates. Youth hunt in my area will not exist. Don't place us in west zone either.
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We discuss mallards because that's our bread and butter duck in NELA. We want to hunt late like we always have , our habitat and migration patterns with our harvest reflect a late opener fits us best. I want the commission to leave us in NELA alone and what y'all do down south is y'all's business. Leave us in our own zone so be it but don't make us open early .
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That's exactly right, trying to manage Monroe and Delacroix in a single zone is ridiculous!
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Marsh looks nothing like my flooded cypress lakes or oak flats . Early season dates screws us , late season screws y'all as you say . So it definitely shouldn't be the same zone . You also can't lump NELA into the same zone as the Shreveport area hunters, they like early as well. I can just see us in NELA getting the shaft and having to open early due to the stupidity going on with the commission .
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That's why a solid WEST zone with a NE and SE would be way more logical. But expecting logic from politicians is like expecting sobriety at a Mardi Gras parade.
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A STRAW VOTE FOR CURRENT SELA COASTAL ZONE HUNTERS: This years early coastal zone opener is a slight and possibly temporary adjustment. It may hurt a little, may even help a little. No big huge deal either way. The proposed zone change, however, is a much more drastic and permanent move. So as current SELA coastal zone hunters OUR choices are either a little bit early opener (not necessarily this early every year ) or stuck with a zone change and the tradeoff listed below for MANY YEARS to come. Using this year as an example, those who hunt the current coastal zone areas who would be forced over to the new proposed east zone would basically lose Nov 7-Nov 20 and gain Jan 18-Jan 31. Who in SELA coastal zone wants this tradeoff? Early , warm, new ducks November traded for freezing cold, no water, rafted ducks January. Lets give Larry some easy simple data: end your comments with either I VOTE LEAVE THE CURRENT ZONES ALONE or I VOTE MOVE US TO THE EAST ZONE. At least this way he can get a clear picture of where people stand. I end my comment with :I VOTE LEAVE THE CURRENT ZONES ALONE!
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i vote to move to east zone,,,i would rather brave the cold, low water and rattled big quality ducks than the heat , mosquitoes and green wing teal ,oh yea and those pesty little gnats that make you want to shoot yourself any day
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I would rather stay coastal but hopefully use the normal 2nd week of November opening. I actually kill more grays in November than January.
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leave the zones how they are and hope for a opening day around the 14th. I would rather deal with opening day set too early for one year then opening day pushed back for a few years like it would do if SE LA was in the east zone.
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Leave the Zones like they are. Stick with the coastal zone opening the second weekend of Nov and we can deal with an early opening when it falls that way. Yes there are many BW teal in the marsh in November but there are plenty big ducks as well. If you don't want to shoot all teal then pass on them early and stay in the blind a little longer and shoot the Greys if that's what you want. If you like teal, kill them early and go catch some fish. Just enjoy what is there for us and make the best of it. THANKS LARRY R. FOR ALL YOU DO! Gooduck to all this season. Let's go brush up the blinds!
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Keep in mind that the majority of hunters in the coastal zone in SWLA don't want an early opener. It was a select few commissioners pushing for this. Most hunters, as reported by the survey, prefer a second Sat in Nov. opener.
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Over all i'd say leave the zones alone for now keep opener on second weekend of NOv.

what we really need is not a zone change but a system of checks and balances so that policically apointed Hacks on the commision can not play King almighty with the natural resources of our state for thier and thier friends own benefit. When the overwhelming majority (and state biologist) say other whise. JMO
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I vote to leave SE LA in the coastal zone with a 2nd Saturday in November opener if possible.
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I hope everyone here in the straw pole also e-mails Larry Reynolds. That is going to be the official comment to the commission. Not that they give a crap what we think of course. Hopefully they will either leave it be and revert to the second Saturday in November or just defer deciding until 2017.
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I sent Larry an email to his Wildlife & Fisheries email address.
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Commissioners need to go. They do not have public interest in mind. This could not be any more clear after the survey this year was completely ignored. Selfish individuals should not be in charge of making these decisions, especially when they go against recommendations of our head state waterfowl biologist and the general public. Makes me furious.

It is not unreasonable at all to have a vote every year taken by the general public. Everyone that buys a duck stamp the prior year should be able to vote on these issues. The state has all of the data on who buys stamps each year, so I don't know what would be so hard about going to some sort of system like that. Let Larry Reynolds do his job, make a few proposals each spring for the upcoming year, give us his recommendations in a little write up, and let the hunters vote. Politics should not play a role in these decisions, and that is all it is with the comissioners. Don't think there wasn't any 'if you vote for this, then I'll vote for that' going on between commissioners this year.

The state is already spending money on surveys that are completely disregarded, so there is no reason why a statewide vote couldn't happen every year. Cost should not be an issue here.

Don't come back at me either with 'seasons need to open earlier, look at the data.' November 7th is the absolute earliest the coastal zone ever needs to open. Of course we will kill more birds early, they are uneducated. If we started hunting January first, we would still smash the ducks for the first 23-30 days. It's sad to think that there is a possibility that we would start on, lets say, November 1st on the years when the 1st is a Saturday.

I have hunted all 60 days of duck season for the last seven years, and I without a doubt see just as many birds in our marshes in January as I do in November. What months do our surveys show the highest numbers of waterfowl in Louisiana?

Let our head waterfowl biologist do his job. Take commissioners out of the picture, as there is absolutely no reason for them. Let the public vote, and if people still don't get their way, then they can at least live with the fact that politics and selfish individuals weren't involved.
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Why Zone boundaries on highways and not Parish Lines
Zone boundaries have to be distinct, enforceable, and easily identifiable. Many Parish boundaries are not. That is why we use roads, waterways, or defined landmarks, and our Law Enforcement Division strongly encourages that.

The line through Evangeline Parish was not my idea, nor was it the boundary that I presented at the 6 public meetings. My intention was to put all of Evangeline Parish that is currently in the Coastal Zone into the East Zone using existing boundaries. However, the Commission insisted on the Hwy 13 boundary.

The Atchafalaya River was also not my idea; the boundary I brought to the 6 public meetings was the old East Zone boundary prior to 2001 of the Houma Navigation Canal. But again, the Commission wanted it moved west, and in many ways, that is better because it doesn't split Terrebonne Parish.

This issue is really no more of a mess than setting the original zone boundaries, or making the changes we made in 2001 or 2012. No boundary is perfect for everyone concerned, so we (or maybe I should say I) try to balance the differing desires as best as we can based on the information available. The challenge for me is that I did not anticipate a potential change in SE LA or changes other than Hwy 14 in SW LA when we designed the 2015 Waterfowl Hunter Opinion survey, and thus we didn't ask hunters for both the Zone AND Parish where they hunted. Consequently, I can't partition the responses into specific locations that would be affected by particular zone changes like I did in 2012. With a sample size of over 7,000, that would have been FAR more representative and useful than this public comment that has not yet reached 250 total responses with only about 120 commenting on the proposed boundary change in SE LA.

And no, I don't know if the public input will mean anything to the Commission given their past actions and comments. It may to some and not to others, but that is out of my control. What I do know is that it definitely won't be a factor if it is not given.
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Larry, as a Terrebonne Parish hunter on both sides of the Houma Nav, I strongly support using it as a zone boundary. But if the boundary will be the Atchafalaya River, then I would prefer to stay in the Coastal, whereas the opener would be the 2nd weekend of November.

Terrebonne Parish is tricky with hunting dates. The Bayou Black area, i.e. freshwater area, is greatly inhabited by divers, which usually move into large rafts in areas of no pressure later in the season. Therefore, most of these birds are killed from the opener until about Christmas time.

Whereas in the Lower Dularge/Dulac/Chauvin area, i.e. brackish area, is greatly inhabited by Gadwall, which usually move into those areas as the season goes on to escape the great pressure from the northern areas. Therefore the greatest majority of these birds are killed from Thanksgiving until the closing.

I think the opener on the 2nd weekend of November is a good happy medium.
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Please e-mail me your comments
Just a reminder:

Please e-mail me your comments at: Lreynolds@wlf.la.gov

I am not collecting comments from websites. I am forwarding every comment to Commission members and keeping a record for summary at their November 5th meeting.

Also, I know that season dates are the most important thing, but they can be debated and changed every year. The decision before us right now concerns zone boundaries and the proposed changes which can only be changed every 5 years.

Thanks to everyone that has participated.
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Larry when I try to post on your web, this is what I got.
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I don't know what to tell you ....... I'm getting plenty of e-mails at the address above, some of them saying they are responding to this thread. I just successfully sent myself an e-mail using the link in the post above.

Maybe just send a message using whatever software you normally use for e-mail.
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