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$8k Overnight Tuna charter FAIL

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My brother and I finally booked the overnight tuna charter we talked about for ten years. We were raised on the water, fish and charter alot, we just cant manage to all get together muchour last trip together was with Captain Charlie over ten years ago, but we still talk about it like it was yesterday.

We call everybody we trust to guide us to the ace captain and boat because we decide to bring all the old timers and teenage grandkids.we all live to fish. Steve Tomeny is clearly our man. An article tells me he bought Captain Charlie and is remodeling it. He sold two boats, but kept The Louisiana. We jump on www.stevetomenycharters.com and our trip is booked. We put our $800 deposit down on the $8000 36 hour trip that will take us 100 miles out to the cobalt blue.

We fill the rest of the crew with our greatest fishing buddies, fathers, and grandkids. We are pumped and ready for months.

Record breaking Hurricane Patricia is hitting Mexico, and my phone is blowing up with messages about the weather and the 9 foot seas. Im pretty convinced this trip isnt going through.

We meet up at 6am, and deck hands are loading up. Steve is not our captain after all. Were going out with Ed who is running this charter for Steve. He tells us everything looks great, and he guarantees to put us on fish.

Immediately choppy 3-5 waves. Were ecstatic that this is happening. We head out to a couple rigs 25-35 miles out. Pull in b liner and bait fish five at a time. Its rough 5-6 waves. 10 of our crew are battling motion sickness, most for the first time, along with one deck hand (his first time ever sick-not the biggest seas but the roughest hes experienced). Were eating Dramamine and holding onto whatever we can to fish. Ice chests are shooting back and forth in the cabin and stuff is bouncing everywhere. We are literally holding on to maneuver the boat. We have a boat load of b liner. We ask if we should try catching live bait? No.

Finally about 8pm were heading for tuna. But were heading directly east to a rig where were gonna catch tuna on jigs? Yes, this really happened a few weeks ago when the current was moving in close over a shelf, assures a deck hand. 12 foot jolting waves. Somehow my 14 year old niece pulls in 6 shark. Exciting! But no tuna. Shocker. From there we go to another rig a bit back west. No such lucksame ole. Everybody is exhaustedfrom the waternot so much the fishingthe whole boat is restingwater is calmerits 4am. The boat is moving pretty easily. About 6am I wake up when were pulling up to another rig. The deck hand informs me that we are at the original rig we started at that is 25 miles off the coast becuase Ed says the rain is heading in so we are here until weve had enough and are ready to head in. I am mind blown.assuming I missed something somewhere. Where in the hell did this come from with still 12 hours left on this trip?

I confer with the crew in the cabin, mainly the oldtimers (my brother is sleeping). I let the deck hand know that we booked the tuna trip not the b liner trip, and wed caught enough bait fish for the rest of our lives. I told the deck hand to bring the boat in. We head in immediately. Were at the dock at noon. We throw our fillets into bare ice chests (this charter doesnt supply bags of any sort-didnt get that memo-maybe thats common? But my first.) Heading home the water is up to Hwy 1 which is shut down later that night for flooding. I am too exhausted to even sort this craziness out.

The next morning I call my brother to ask what in the hell happened here. Did Ed EVER mention that we werent going out for tuna? No. He was just as shocked as I. I told him that I was DONE when we he brought us to the last rig closest in, but had convinced myself that I mustve missed something. He thought the same thing. My brother handled the payment with Ed. The full $8k. No explanation, no deal. Nothing. But really this is an issue to sort out with Steve Tomeny anyway. His business, his boat, his captain, right?

I get Steves personal cell number through the grapevine as Steve Tomeny Charters cant give me that informationeven when I insist that I need to speak with Steve personally. Hmmmodd.

Steve is pretty apologetic, but informs me that he has absolutely nothing to do with this Charter other than a rent-to-own boat contract with Ed. Wow. So he really wishes I had discussed this with Ed. I explain to Steve that there is no way in hell any of us would get back on that boat with Ed and that it was clear Ed was only about getting $8k in his pocket when he knew before we left dock that we wouldnt come close to tuna. Steve assured me that hed call Ed, but his hands were pretty much tied. Ive heard nothing.

Just infor for the next sucker, I suppose
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   rocknet
Wow!
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   Samarai
when did u leave on your trip cause there's no way I would have headed out there from Fri to Mon when that weather system was headed our way.
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   Samarai
why did u pay the full charter when he didnt full fill his obligations and took u in 12 hours earlier
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   Lesliemg
Well that was clearly my bad but my brother had the cash funds and paid up. I was surprised he expected the full payment, but assumed we'd have no problem working something out with Steve later. It was clearly a bomb and I assumed Ed to be just a middle man. By the time we reached dock and were loading up we were scrambling in the rain.
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I would have forfeited my deposit and rescheduled in better weather. jmo
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   Lesliemg
We left out Saturday 6am was to return 6pm sunday
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   Samarai
unfortunately, sometimes we have to learn from our mistakes. first was not to go out when there are gale force winds in the gulf on sat and sun. There's no way anyone is chasing tuna in that weather. Maybe he thought u wanted to go no matter what and did the best he can under the conditions. How can anyone enjoy themselves in that weather. That's one situation to request for a reschedule of your trip if he wont refund u the money.
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Are the tuna at the mouth of the river chasing shrimp boats out of Venice?
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the capt should never have left the dock!! his first priority should be the safety of his customers and crew!!! he should have said you need to reschedule, but $8000 a lot to turn down I guess!!!! you got jacked!!!!
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I cancelled my trips due to the weather and I fish the inside marsh,not the open gulf.i guess 8,000 is more important than reputation.
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   Lesliemg
Sources tell me this is Ed Pitre of Southern Pride Charters that assumed Steve Tomeny's Louisiana Charter boat.
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   Samarai
U book with the Steve. Personally did your initial transactions with him n then he handles u off to someone else when the trip starts I don't see how he was not responsible for such outcome
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I agree with samurai!!! I think when u book with a certain charter captain, they should not be able to hand u over to a different captain unless u agree to it ahead of time!!!!! your contract is with the original charter capt and he responsible also if something goes wrong!!!! I bet if u talk to an attorney he would say he is!!!!
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your sources are correct as this is no longer steve tomeney charters but southern pride charters. I have yet to hear anything good about this company. What is even worse is that he knew the conditions before he left as these conditions were WELL forecasted. I know cuz I remember looking at it all last week. That's just plain wrong and all for greed. Horrible decision making and I can assure you that you were the only people fishing in the gulf on that day
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   pepper
I went with Ed for the first time in May with 10 guys and he said it was AJ season and we caught 50lb-80lbs AJ's till our arms fell off. It was 3-6ft waves and that was all that i could handle on that boat. He said he would go out in 8-9ft waves but not me I would cancel. Just not fun trying to balance and watch out for flying stuff on the deck. He and the crew were good that day, but I think he should have rescheduled for that forecast or reduced the rate.
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   tumo523
To the $8,000 tuna fisherman. I have been with Steve Tomeny and now Ed Pitre for the past 20+ years. Both Steve and Ed have tried to talk me out of trips with 4-6 foot seas. I personally would never go out in the conditions you went out in nor should have ya'll. You are the customer and should have cancelled the trip and rescheduled. I have cancelled and re-schedule with Ed Pitre because of the weather in 3-5 seas and he had no problem with it. Ed by all means should have cancelled the trip.

FYI there are captains that specialize in Tuna Trips such as Tuna Time Charters and Apex Fishing Charters, just to name a few. I can guarantee you they would have not made this trip under those weather conditions. Use better judgment next time and don't put yourself our your fishing buddies in this most uncomfortable type of conditions. Who wants to be see sick and miserable for 30 hours?
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   Lesliemg
Re: 8K Overnight Tuna Charter FAIL---note 2nd thread in this forum.
I would appreciate hearing Eds side. I have not posted anything exaggerated or fabricated.
We spoke with them Wednesday with Hurricane Patricia in the loom and they insisted they would maneuver the weather and put us on Tuna or contact us otherwise. We've been cancelled before. It happens. Between getting settled in room midnight Friday and at dock at 6 am, I'm sure none of us even pulled up a radar. I don't own and operate a 65' boat therefore I rely on professionals in this situation. I research and have never been given a reason to doubt a charter captain, until now. But then I've never ended up in a transfer either. We've seen 12' swells before in these boats and have had no trouble fishing. But the idea that he had Zero intention of getting us anywhere near tuna is ridiculous. I'm sure he knew we weren't going 100 miles out before we left dock and we'd never gotten on that boat to fish rigs. I've seen other charters were cancelled as early as Tuesday of last week and haven't come across one that went out, but nor have I looked. I'm convinced that Ed was blinded by $8000 and the scam he made on fuel and a trip cut short was just bonus. Hind site is...we shouldn't have let our excitement and then exhaustion let it go that far, or trusted a gentleman's agreement with Ed, or expected any integrity from the situation. Fortunately Ed is only one worm among many respectable captains.
Still no response from Ed Pitre or Steve Tomeny...but I suppose there's always another side to a story.
- See more at: http://www.louisianasportsman.com/lpca/index.php?section=reports&event=view&action=full_report&id=192276#sthash.Zx6JcJrc.dpuf
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I have known and fished with Captin Ed Pitre dating back to Jr. high school. It is hard for me to sit here and read these comments with hearing his side of the story. My family has also ran a charter boat business. When we say it is too rough to go out, it's rough. You will still have those weekend warrior crews that want to go out anyways. So before you go on bashing him and his company, lets have a little respect and see what he has to say about it. For all we know is that whoever made this report could be lying and starting rumors.
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   Bdv2642
http://www.fishinthegulf.com/About-Us.html
I believe this is the guy's website? Sorry that happened to you, nothing worse than somebody taking your money through deception.
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   coby1759
Totally should never had left the dock.He should return the money maybe minus the gas.
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   Lesliemg
My sister-in-law left her number with Eds wife Friday night because she wasn't going on the boat and wanted her to have a contact in case of emergency. Yesterday evening Eds wife called my sister in law ranting about either this forum or tiger droppings that I'll post below. She said it was solely my brothers responsibility to cancel and that Ed fulfilled his obligation by bringing us to a rig to catch tuna. Ed has both my brothers and my number. Guess that's Ed side of the story.
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   Lesliemg
http://www.tigerdroppings.com/rant/outdoor/not-so-tuna-trip/59748654/
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   Lesliemg
Update: Ed calls my brother yesterday and states that he'll give us a discount on a day trip...did not realize this trip was a disappointment. Thanks anyway, Ed
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I have been fishing with Captain Ed with southern pride charters for many many years. I have family that fishes with me from out of state and fly in to do charters with Captain Ed. He is always honest with us about the weather conditions, I am an avid fisherman and I would trust captain Ed's decisions. I have been very adamant on fishing when most would have rescheduled. Due to the fact that family has flown in & that was the only weekend we were together. Captain Ed has always gave us the option to reschedule. I'm sure you also have had those options. But when you are insisting on going out, he will. He obviously put you on some fish!!! We have been on overnight tuna trips with him for the last 6 years. We have racked up on tuna on majority of the trips, although due to weather conditions not every single trip throughout the years we slam the tuna. It's called FISHING not guaranteed to always tear up the tuna!!! Hearing these comments is very disturbing! Captain Ed is a very legit & an Ace captain. He runs a 5 star business & I have never ever found one bad review on him or his company. Also, he has bought Steve Tomeny Charters and this is the 2nd year he has been running the m/v Louisiana. That's no surprise or
Secret! It's right on his website!!!
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   mikjohn90
Lesleymg,
I have fished with Southern Pride Chaters many many many times and I find this article very hard to believe I don't believe captain Ed would put you or your family or anyone else in harms way espically with out talking over wether conditions to the person that is in charge of booking the charter with Captain Ed. Maybe the person that booked your charter left you out of the loop of what was actually discussed. But hell that surely is a wonderful catch that y'all caught at least y'all came in with a limit could have been a lot worse could have caught nothing. So all of these people that are bashing Southern Pride Charters must have never fished with this captain and his crew because you surely wouldn't be saying the things you all are saying negative about him. Southern Prise Chaters is run by Ed. His company has nothing to do with Steve. So before you post such a disturbing article on someone business make sure all your facts are legit and that the person booking your charter keeps you in the loop and that decision he and the captain discussed with out you. Southern Pride Charters is by for the best offshore fishing charter in the South.
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He 'did not realize this trip was a disappointment'. If people get upset with services they should take it up right then and there. If it's not settled then, that is the time to write a bad review Why do people immediately go to the Internet and post bad reviews before talking to the person and trying to make it right beforehand?
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   Tarpons09
After fishing with southern pride charters countless times, I for one find this very hard to believe. Knowing captain Ed over the years, I've grown to fish with southern pride religiously, and will continue! Not only is Ed a very seasoned captain but also an all around great person. Every charter I've been on, the captain and his crew has gone over and beyond to make my trip susessful and enjoyable. (We have always caught more then our fair share of fish!) I would recommend southern pride to anyone who enjoys offshore fishing. It's defiantly the best choice in the gulf! For you to bash such a great company goes to show everyone what a bitter person you are, and quite frankly, you should be ashamed of yourself! As for as captain Ed, I'll see you on my next charter! ( which is booked every year) I pray for you Lesley. Your quite the disgrace!
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Sorry to hear about the failed trip. The only advice that I can offer is to stay in contact with your charter captain well before the trip and have a plan to deal with the weather.
I had planned a Tuna trip out of Venice, LA with Peace Marvel last year. However, we had to postpone it 3 times due to weather. When we did go, it was still 4-5 ft seas. But, Captain Peace put us on the fish. We filled the box and was tired of catching Tuna. I recommend him highly...

Good Luck and go fishing....
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   NOLA DUCK
Here's a better idea!!! How about not pay $8,000 for an overnight tuna trip lol go with a reputable captain out of Venice and pay a hell of a lot less. That's redonkulous!!!
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   NOLA DUCK
Overnight trip with Paradise Outfitters. $4000
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Their was 14 people on that charter, not a 6 pack boat, nor was it an outboard, get your facts straight!
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Peace Marvel is an uninspected 6 pack outboard, big difference from a 65' coastguard approved passenger carrying vessel. I'm sure that's why they have such a big price difference.
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   Bdv2642
LMAO! Dude's coming on here making up good reviews! Come on man! Sometimes you just need to let things be!
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^^^^^^^^ He's going to be 'that guy!' ^^^^^^^^^^
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   e-man (R)
Ok how did you know there were 14 people? didn't see that in any of his post.
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8k for 14 people. That's the price!
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   rhall301
What I do not understand is why neither of the two captains have not joined into this thread to give their side of the story. Makes me believe that the OP is 'in the right' here.
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