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NO DUCKS!! Santa please give me a later season

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Being that we are almost at the end of 1st split, this is a great time to post. Although there may be a select few areas killing ducks, most in this state are sharing the same sentiment: no ducks. Now if I had posted on Feb 1st to say that my lake was loaded to the gills with birds, the skeptics would say, 'those are not new birds, those are the southern birds that are starting to migrate back north. There are a lot of birds because of no hunting pressure'. You can't say that this year because the fact is that there are no birds south. The fact is that the birds migrate later. Period. North Dakota is still loaded with mallards despite one degree weather. There are other all-knowing great hunters that say, 'Get off your butt and go find those birds. You have to work to get em. Etc., etc.' The fact is brother I work (and pay taxes) everyday. Hats off to you commando. The birds will arrive by Christmas.

What we need people is a commission that works for us. We don't need a commission that totally ignores public comment. We need commissioners that will serve the interests of the people. How many kids were screwed out of a hunt because the youth hunt was Oct 31? 'P I T I F U L' . This is insane. There are a select few that benefit from an early season. I say give it to them. The rest of us, I say start the season on Dec 15 and let it run to Feb 7th. Now that's serving the interest of the hard working tax payer! And for the rest of you that say 'OMG, we can't kill a duck in Feb. They are starting to pair up. Let's just shoot them out the nest, then '. I say get real and take your rose-colored tunnel vision PETA issued glasses off because the bird that maybe (a big maybe) be paired up in Feb., is the same duck some dude shot at in Stuttgart 2 weeks prior.

My next post will be Feb 1, and I'll show you black bird sky full of ducks.
By the way, I like my eggs scrambled!
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Re: NO DUCKS!! Santa please give me a later season
Amen brother. I agree we need someone who will listen to us rather then what there studies say for some areas. The 1st split so for has been horrible. But like you say come end of jan to feb my ponds will be full of ducks when I can do nothing but watch them. They had a meeting and survey for what? So that they can still make the dates from what Chad wanted bc he usually kills ducks in his area early, BS.
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I know exactly what you're talking about. I went to Catahoula today for the first time this year. I saw 3 ringnecks the whole time. I see guides on here that are looking for business talking about killing limits every day. I'm gonna have to call BS on that. The birds just aren't here. It's that simple.
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UHH ,Sorry my buddy, his son and two his neighbors had 24 ducks today on Catahoula Lake ..Limit of Cans ,redhead,pintail BW & GW teal and yes a couple of ringnecks...Not in disagreement report,just sharing some info...
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Re: NO DUCKS!! Santa please give me a later season
There are a lot of things going on right now that can contribute to the myth of 'no ducks.' If you have been paying attention to the weather over the past few months, we are in an El Nino year, and it's a strong one. This pattern has been training rain up the Mississippi Flyway for at least six weeks. This is flooding the grain fields of the mid-west, the buck brush in Arkansas and all of their bottomland timber. Ducks need water and food. That is the water source. If you remember, last year, we had a cold front in October that moved some extra birds down, but a bigger factor was a lack of rain up North. Also, agriculture has changed in the mid-west. pre 1980's, it was common practice to till the fields after the harvest. Now, no-till-drill is common practice. This leaves hundreds of pounds of grain on the ground for the ducks that used to come here to eat. That is your food source. Ducks are pushed around by hunting pressure, weather and resources. This year, there is water everywhere. There has been an East wind blowing for the last two months. This has kept the water high in SELA. High water means that the birds are scattered. It also means that they can't feed in ponds, the water is too high (ducks feed in water less than 12'-18'). Ducks that are usually in your ponds are now feeding on top of flooded grass. With all of this rain and these high tides, it wouldn't have mattered if the season was postponed till January, it is not your typical year.
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Re: NO DUCKS!! Santa please give me a later season
This Is the worst first split I have ever seen in the 43 years I have been hunting ducks. Last week I made a trip to Pointe Aux Chenes WMA in the morning, saw one teal and a group of mottled ducks. Hunted behind the headquarters in the marsh between St. Louis canal and four corners in the burnt cypress. Left there and decided to take my daughter to the Atchafalaya Delta WMA to make an afternoon hunt due to the high tide and strong southeast wind. Went to the main delta at vice grip pass, feed everywhere and no ducks. Made a hunt in the Biloxi Marsh last week and managed to kill my limit of greys but didn't see many ducks at all, it was the least amount of ducks that I have ever seen for this time of year in the Biloxi Marsh. My son has been killing three man limits in Babtiste Collette but its a toss salad of divers and big birds. Something is going on up the flyway guys that is keeping the birds away from Louisiana. I remember even when we had warm weather like this in the late seventies and early eighties we still had plenty of ducks during the first split. I get a waterfowl hunting magazine sent to me every quarter where it shows guys hunting in flooded cornfields and cut cornfields up north and brag about how good of hunters they are! Guys hunting in flooded corn or cut corn is no different then someone in south Louisiana throwing milo or corn in one of there ponds. People say we do not have the habitat to support large concentrations of ducks on the coast anymore, that's a bunch of bullxxxx, the marshes in south Louisiana have never looked better! I still shoot birds because I know where to go but the average Louisiana waterfowler does not have the same luxury. I have to travel now to consistently shoot birds where in the past all I had to do was drive to the launch five miles from my home and take a fifteen minute boat ride and was able to have world class duck hunting. I miss those days very much and I do think one of the culprits in creating this situation for duck hunters in south Louisiana is a well known conservation group that I used to belong too creating too many refuges and impoundments to the north of us.
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Santa please give me a later season I got the 'Duck Syndrome'
..sounds like 'ya have the 'Duck Syndrome' ( kool & collected on the surface but paddleing like crazy underneath) !!!
cheers
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Re: NO DUCKS!! Santa please give me a later season
I'm assuming you are talking about DU. I've heard too many stories about how they are doing things north of LA to keep the ducks there for the winter. I refuse to give them any of my money to keep the ducks from coming this far south. It ticks me off that LA is giving them money from every duck stamp sold.
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Your right, we would benefit by the latest possible dates we could get now in southeast Louisiana. Your right also noose about the changes in farming practices that's exactly the reason we do not get the large mallard migration in the state anymore. Mallards used to be called French ducks in southern Louisiana back in the old days I think they need to call them show me ducks now! after the slang show me state of Missouri.
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Re: NO DUCKS!! Santa please give me a later season
More rice , beans , and corn to the north of La than there ever has been . There's your culprit with the mallards.
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Re: NO DUCKS!! Santa please give me a later season
Noose. I agree with your theory on food and water; food being the primary reason for migration. You've explained short stopping.
I watch the weather extremely close. The 'no duck' fact is no myth. There aren't many ducks in our state, especially when compared to years past. El Niño, east wind, or water everywhere will have no influence on the fact that my fields (in central, south-central La) will be loaded with ducks by Feb 1st. You can take that to the bank. This happens every year. Every year. My point is: As migration patterns change, hunting seasons should also change. Migration patterns have definitely changed. We shouldn't have the same seasonal dates as our neighbors north of us. Our state is diverse. The experiences in Venice, Hackberry, Welsh, Bunkie, catahoula, Saline, Tallulah, and Monroe are different. All this should be taken into effect when drawing zone lines and choosing season dates.
Sure, a few hunters may have had limits here and there, but the state as a whole is not doing well.
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Re: NO DUCKS!! Santa please give me a later season
Noose is dead on. Plenty water and food up north plus warm temps = No reason for a mass migration. Last year we had a 'get-it' front in October and in result, ducks were plentiful everywhere in South Louisiana. This year exact opposite, plenty of water in the flyway and hot. I also agree that a later season is always better. The commission uses the fact that we kill mostly greys and teal and they are down early. This is true but in years like this, a later season would benefit us to let some cold weather up north push the ducks down. On the other hand, opening two weeks later wouldn't have an adverse effect on years where we have ducks early. Most of our ducks winter on the coast. In my opinion, a grey duck that gets in south LA in late October will still be in south LA by the end of November. They may shift a little but all in all, i think they are staying in our marshes. For this reason I will always prefer a later season.

There are always those people who kill a limit and get all excited to come on here and make everyone else feel like they don't know what they're doing, but the fact is that the season should be managed to best benefit everyone and that didn't happen this year. On the other hand, if you are getting so discouraged that you end up ticked off after every hunt, you are in the wrong sport. If you don't enjoy learning about and patterning waterfowl based on weather conditions (which you can't control), then go fishing.
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Re: NO DUCKS!! Santa please give me a later season
Well said noose
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http://www.weather.com/forecast/national/news/winter-temperature-outlook-update-november-2015-2016

Read this article. We can't base the dates of our next five seasons on this freak season.
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100% correct, bloodandguts and greenhead1. I commented on this forum 2yrs ago about us not getting the ducks we used to get due to the amount of feed to our north. Mizzou and Illinois mostly, cause, they have learned from their southern neighbor, Arkansas how profitable the duck hunting industry can be. What I got for these comments:
A lot of people disagreeing with me including L. Reynolds. I said then that it would get worse and guess what, It damn sure is and will continue to decline until someone tries to pass some legislation that makes bringing water to your feed just as illegal as bringing feed to your water. I've had 46 yrs of great hunting and who knows how many seasons I have left, so I'll keep hunting no matter what. My son, who is 19 now and has been hunting with me since
he was 5 sees the difference in the amount of ducks we now get down here. He does enjoy shooting teal though so his next 30 or so years will be just fine, LOL.
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I agree , I my self ben saying this for years. I don't how old you or duk- huntiac but I will be 66 in Jan. and I ben hunting for 56 years way back then there were no one hunting fed rice fields but may be the own. That because it was against the LAW to lure ducks in with feed , but to day big money talks. So this will never stop, so we need to work on letting us but feed in our water after all water in the feed or feed in the water sounds the same the same to me in court of law to me.
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