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I am looking into buying a muzzle loader. I dont want to spend alot at first I just want to see what it is all about and then in a few years if I like it move up a lil in price. Right now I am looking at the CVA buckhorn and the CVA wolf, and maybe the CVA Optima, mainly the WOLF AND THE BUCKHORN though. If anybody has ever had any experience with these let me know. Thanks in advance...
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   ruger109
Optima hands down. Beliene me its a blast and allows you to hunt the two best times of the year, beginning and end. Key to enjoying muzzleloading is the ease of cleaning and the reliability that when you squeeze the trigger it goes boom!

Just my 2 cents, but trust me.
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   TOBY
I HAVE A 50 CAL HUNTER MAG I BOUGHT ABOUT 8 YEARS A GO.YOU CAN BEAT A CVA FOR THE PRICE NO MATTER WHICH ONE YOU GET I'M SURE YOU WILL NOT WANT TO UPGRADE.
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   dawg123
CVA is a good gun. Also check out The Traditions. You can look them up on-line or at Bass-Pro. A friend of mine has a Traditions Tracker 209 and a Yukon. Both are very good guns and are probably the least expensive guns to get into Muzzleloading. You cant go wrong with either
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   boudy30
I have had a CVA eclipse for 5 years and loved everything about it except the hassle of removing the bolt and cleaning. I bought an Optima this year and having a break open is the way to go. The optimas are only about 50.00 more than the lower priced CVA's and you will be much happier when it is time to clean it. Which in case you dont know, a muzzleloader has to be cleaned after each use.
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Yeah that is why i was looking at the wolf it is built just like the optima only a shorter barrel and it is a lil cheaper. Yeah I think the break open barrel is the way to go, also I am sure I will be using triple 7 pellets, but what is a good power belt? I was thinking a hollow point power belt but dont know what grain would be best, also which is better copper plated hollow points or the all lead hollow points?
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dude i have a mag blot made by cva and it have never missed fired in the 8 years i owned it keep it clean and oil free and shoot 209 primers you caint beat it! good luck with whatever you choose.
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I bought the Buckhorn Magnum last year and have had no problems with it. I was like just you - just getting into it and went for a less expensive model. $169 from Cabella's for the whole setup. Shoots well, easy clean up, and for only 2 weeks of blackpowder hunting serves me well. It allows up to 150 grains of pyrodex, but I have stayed with 100. With that, I can shoot 2 1/2" groups at 100 yards, which is plenty good enough for where I hunt. I hope this helps.
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   boudy30
Everyone has there own preference but here is what I have been shooting in my eclipse and optima with good results. I buy the 30 gr pyrodex and load 4 of them for 120 grains with a 295 grain powerbelt copper jacket. i have used the hollowpoint and the plastic tipped and have not noticed much differnece in grouping.
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the wolf's shorter barrel won't allow for a sufficient enough of powder burn.
I have a CVA Optima and love it..
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I have a CVA .50 cal that I am looking to sell with the bullets and powder and caps all ready to go for $125.
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I have had a CVA Optima for 3 years now. For the cost and what the gun is capable of doing, you can't beat it. I love the break action and cleaning it is easy......
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Hey man what kind of CVA is it? I might be interested tell me more about the gun, ie How old is it, what length barrel, will it take 209 primers, also where are you located?
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   E--man
Just wanted to chime in and let you know that bowie outfitters is having a 20%- 50% off sale right now.
They are listing a knight revolution 50 cal w/27" bbl.
For $199. I dont shoot smokepoles but I just wanted to pass on this info.
Bob
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Thanks for the help and advice fellas, I am still looking, But am ready to get one, just havent had time off from work to go look, I will be heading to new orleans Sat. so if anybody on the way wants to sale a muzzle loader let me know I could stop and look, aslong as it isnt to far outta the way... I live in Elizabeth, thats about 10 minutes west of Oakdale,
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   BangFlop
I was thinking about upgrading from my old Knight, but decided to wait and see if LDWF approves the 45 70 for next season.
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   wschamp98
is what I've heard for next year via LDW&F.
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Just curious, but why do they allow the use of the 45-70 during muzzleloader season in some states?
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The CVA's are the ticket. They are fairly priced and perform great. I would checkout the bargain den on http://www.cva.com They usually have plenty of refurbed guns. I purchased a few of them to use in seminars. They are in great shape and you will save plenty. Enjoy your smoke pole. They are a kick!!
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   Gurise
I'm happy with my CVA optima,It's fun & easy to shoot.Tripple 7"777"drop 2 & 295 powerbelt hollow point!May try the lighter powerbelt this year though.
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   bigjim
Highly discourage anyone from shooting light powerbelts. The heavier bullets do pretty well, but the lighter bullets perform good on targets but very poor on deer. I refuse to track another deer into the cutover on our lease because of fast lightweight powerbelts that overexpand on contact and have low sectional density to drive them in. Needless to say we have a handful of deer lost each year with only 5 people hunting and all have been lost to lightweight powerbelts. Never an exit wound. Next year will be a different story, everyone is being strongly encouraged to use high quality bullets and everyone is OK with it and are working on their choices. There are two many high quality bullets to use sub par bullets, (Barnes and Hornady).
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Although I've only killed five deer with my muzzle loader, everyone was killed with a 295gr powerbelt hollow point. The entry/exit hole is about the size of a golf ball. Three fell in their tracks and two hobbled about 20yds.
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