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To Mr. Kinny and Mr. Larry

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In all respect to Mr. Kinny's article and Mr. Larry's on waterfowl and duck hunting. I 100% respect your experience and knowledge of the outdoors especial on waterfowl hunting in Louisiana. BUT I believe you are looking at the issues with blinders on and not seeing the whole pic and taking everything into account with your information. If you care to discuses/debate this shoot me an email. I will only like to discuss this with either of you and no one else because of my own personal reasons. If I don't hear from either one of you then no harm no foul. But BEFORE we get further into this dark hole and YEARS (10+) to get back to some kind of duck hunting norm and show our kids and grandkids what it was like in the late 80's and early 90's (will probable never see it but our 'TRUE' duck hunters will give it a go) maybe you should get some insight from someone who you never knew or heard of before.

Have a great day and Happy Holiday to ALL...
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If they do not do some thing , and they know what it is then hunting in south la. will a thing of the past , water in the feed , feed in the water say what u want there is no different.
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Yep,Ole Josh Goins knew EXACTLY about what he was talking and hardly anyone gave him a second of their time and he convinced me dat something indeed was amiss and the authorities KNOW EXACTLY what the issue(s)are but refuse to address them for reasons way too numerous for me to expound upon.Suffice to say,NEVER gonna see the hunting we had just around Katrina year,not that doggone long ago.

Mandevillian
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Wise man once said, 'Follow the money.'
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All Larry Reynolds could do is recommend a ban on ice eaters and hunting flooded unharvested crop fields to the flyway council, or recommend the same to the commission in LA. He can\'t set policy by personal fiat. And he has discussed extensively why those pleas fall on deaf ears. But this year with now snow south of SD no law change would improve the situation. If we get the weather we had in 95,96,97 we will have the ducks we had then. Dry across the lower MS valley then cold snowy winters. The last two years have been really wet from Marksville to Missouri and that equals fields flooded without effort or expense, then no snow, few real fronts ................ I think there are outfitters doing their level best to hold as many birds north as possible but weather is still a top factor. Don\'t just look at temperatures here check them in NE, KS and IA even when its seasonal here if they are having daytime temps above freezing then its not the ice-eaters hurting us it old man winter being lazy.
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Nail on the head lanco1! The amount of unharvested crops is a topic harder to cover, but weather is by far the key factor. I have been a part of many meetings where the topic of ice eaters come up and like I tell people every time...in order to hinder the migration (which people are incinuating) you would have to thaw thousands of acres of water and would need a nuclear power plant to supply the electricity needed to do so. By far the biggest factor we have to seeing increased numbers down here is the main driving force behind the migration...weather. If it is frozen solid up north (fields and water) then it doesn't matter how many crops are left in a field...they can't eat them when they are buried in snow and ice. Last year our only cold fronts mainly came from Texas (west to east), and our only arctic blast was late January I believe. This hear has not been much different with only a handful of frosts in the morning. People send my company pictures of their hunts all over the country, and I can tell you that there are not many places frozen north of Louisiana. A ban on ice eaters would more than likely increase our numbers down here, BUT not nearly by the increment that people think it would.
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U miss the nail , I don't how old u guys or I am 71 I lived the good hunting years 60's70's80's when the oil was big down south hot or cold it was the same back then some days cold some not so cold 30 years of i.t What we did have was a lot of big shot putting 1000 of pounds of feed in there ponds while hunting in rice and corn fields were un heard of up north. Does that not tell u some thing, well the fed put a stop to all of that in the 90s so there u go that y all your ducks or not coming down if we can not stop them and we will not, just like the day down here big money it were stop buy a man call david hall a fed it was on 20-20 news if any of u young can remember that. U want my answer to all this we need to b equal to hem, we need to b able to feed down here after all WATER IN THE FEED OR FEED IN THE WATER no different it not we or down far duck will not leave there feed and come south were there is no more feed , after all the cold does not bother them it when there is no feed because the ground is frozen and they have accomplish that up north some how this law does not look fair to me, but then money talks and it talks big good luck to all my 2 cents from experience not books.
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if anyone takes 30 minutes and will watch any of josh goins flyway federation videos and really listen to the scientific data that has been shown you will all shake your heads and say how in the hell can this be legal. as I said scientific data that has been reported by scientist or drs that has been hired by this federation, Not just people who have been hunting for 50 years saying oh they did this or this changed or its hot. Yes weather is a big factor to waterfowl but if you listen to his video and stated in 1998 the migratory bird treaty act was changed from that year and on there has been a major steady decline in our numbers. Not a slight up or down but major decline. Water on the feed or feed in the water??? How can you watch a video of a guy up north on any corn farm show you corn on the ground plus standing stalks. Walk over to pump #3 turn it on put 4 inches of water in his field. Have 5,000 mallards sitting in it bring in 10 to 15 people a day at the rate of 300 per day blast a 10 man limit of ducks in 1 hour put the video on youtube to make sure we all see it so you want to drive there to hunt it so he can make more money not make all of us sick. Try and go put 500 lbs of corn in your pond which is the same thing and you are arrested seriously fined and 3 to 5 years no hunting. People in Kansas and other states could care less and never could identify a duck in the air til theses changes were made. Now its big business making several hundreds of thousands of dollars a year. You think they want a change. And every year each generation of birds imprint the following which has slowly shifted the migration of ducks west. You need big changes if you want to see a reversal. But just like you trying to win your fishing rights to tidal influence waters in this state and prevent landowners gating and blocking your access the guys with the deep pockets always win. Mr . goins I pray your passion and drive and support is enough to get a reversal.
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Yep,Could not stated it any better get used to lotta MT
Skies until dat Migratory Bird Treaty gets changed to NOT allow hunting over un-harvested grains. Dumping sacks of corn in ya ponds would NOT accomplish a damn thing,other than very big fine and possible suspension of hunting privileges. Who wants to risk dat,even with very much sub-par duck seasons,100% what Josh Goins so accurately predicted.

Mandevillian
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That just it we pay a big fine when up north is doing the same thing FEED IN THE WATER OR WATER IN THE FEED . Does any one think we can stop it. I don't think so, may b we should fight to b equal that not a crime we just want to b able to get some duck like them belive me if we don't look at this and get help then all we will here every year saying the same bull un still we r all to old. All I here is talk and no action.
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Gonna take Herculean effort and then some to get modifications done to Migratory Bird Treaty and at least Josh Goins got the ball rolling,guess I need to do my best to see what if anything has been accomplished via Flyway Federation.Follow de money is unfortunately the mantra and Big Money no doubt is involved!!!Guess three back-back-back miserable for the most part,seasons enough to get folks back to drawing table!!!Thank God I do not have the money tied up like a lotta folks with mudboats,expensive leases,etc.Bad enough dat I spend a ton of time and energy on non-productive hunts and probably doing walk-in Honey Island wood duck hunt tomorrow,possible NShore Marsh paddle-in hunt Wed and boat hunt Th,think I don't have passion for duck hunting!!!

Mandevillian
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Guys, all great comments. I love hearing the stories from guys older than me of the 'glory' days in the 70's and 80's. I was lucky enough to be a part of the late 80's and early 90's and see the year by year decline from 2000. You young guys, take a good close look at a 71 year old man STILL hunting in a pirogue, that's how I started out and still somewhat do to this day. Back when I started there were either pirogue or very small mudboats with less than 20hp if you could afford one (which most couldn't back then). Duck back then didn't hear motor running from Sep to Jan, from 0400 till dark, it was quite. As I agree with you guys on the weather somewhat, but I know hunters had weather back then too. I even just seen a record high in the mid 1980's of 82 degrees. I can, as I am sure we all can, give you a top 10 list of changes that were created, hunters created and mother nature created that has changed duck hunting as a whole. 85% of my top 10 we can't and will not ever be able to change, but the other 15% is possible. Mr. Larry, with all do respect, will NOT be able to change things, if he does it will benefit some and then hurt others. I don't remember who said 'big money' but that would be my #1 and one that will never change. Now that's big money from Canada to coastal Louisiana. Some of mother natures creation that no one will be able to change, just to name a few; apple snails, Sylvania, grass carp, hurricanes, rising sea level and land lost and what I have sees recently while hunting with my own eyes that move the ducks, is the increase numbers of bald eagles. It hurts to see my son hunt with me and while hunting, tell him the stories of the same spot we sitting now there would be thousands of duck in this pond. I am just a hunter as you guys, and seen first hand great hunts, maybe not the so called glory days, but see for years some great hunts. It's sad to 'KNOW' I nor my son will ever see that again on a consistence bases in Louisiana like it 'was'. I would love to site at a camp with you older guys (especially the 71 yrs old guy) and share my stories and hear your of the old days. As I am sure you can as well, but I could also show you the changes here where I hunt from then to now. Keep the stories coming. Happy New Years to all... By the way in case anyone was wondering. I have yet to receive an email, so that should tell you guys something on how important change is or will changes be made.... but I am optimistic, doubtful , but optimistic...
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