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Orange grove canal allowed?

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Is this canal in the orange grove allowable for bass fishing or not?
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   martys
I was kicked out while filming.

https://youtu.be/g6erJTyEB2E
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Gotcha. Thanks for the warning. It’s wrong and it has almost no chance of getting changed, but that’s Louisiana. We will always be the laughing stock of the nation, bad policy and corruption that permeates almost everything. 19,000 net population loss in 2019, and accelerating. If they kill off fishing in this state there will be absolutely nothing left to stay for. Democrats are going to kill the oilfield, I already take all my hunting out of state and more of my fishing is getting that way. Anyway rant over, thanks for the tip and great fishing to you!
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   BlueShamu
So....@martys has more land that that to go fish....but, is fishing there, instead....and complains calling the landowner/overseer a d-bag at the end of the video when he gets caught in the canal with signs stating it is posted and private property, no trespassing??

And, if @martys is not going to complain about other people being on his property to fish....where is this property so we can all go fish it?
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The canal in the center of the circle and branches off of it are posted. The canal inside the circle on the right is open to the public.
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   martys
I can walk and drive on my property. We let people hunt and shoot with permission. I have been fishing that canal for 25 years. Need to Gate it off or quit messing with people
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   jjoojj
I'd suggest respecting 'No Trespassing Signs' - or ask for permission to fish prior to poaching the property. Need to follow your own rule.
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I don't care what the owner(s) and judge says, the law says that canal is not owned by the landowner. Only in Louisiana can the obvious be perverted so that what's understood and upheld by the rest of the country become the accepted here. I can only hope one day someone who is not partial to politics and money will come into power and correct the insanity.
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   jjoojj
?I don?t care what the owner(s) and judge says?... the exact mentality of the people that got us where we are now.
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You’re obviously one of the ones supporting the illegal banning of people in the canal. I would expect you to say something like that. So you have a problem with someone calling out a wrong regardless of what the local and influential cronies say. That’s the exact mentality of the people that got us where we are now.
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   jjoojj
Nah. Not one of the ones supporting illegal banning of people in that canal.
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   BlueShamu
First....landowners are not required to post 'no trespassing' signs on their property. It is upon the individual to know whether or not he is on private or public property. 'I've fished this canal for 25 years' is not research to determine if the canal is private or public.

Secondly....what is really driving landowners to prohibit people on their property is frivolous lawsuits. So, if you want to blame somebody for the state that we are currently in....blame lawyers. And, who makes up the majority of Louisiana Legislatures? Lawyers. They will protect their own as long as they are in control. So, we will likely never see any sort of tort reform in this state. And, before you spout off about the state having laws to protect landowners from recreational use liability....that is simply not the case. There are too many instances of payouts where landowners were not given the protections under LA RS 9:2791 and 9:2795....those are the revised statutes that are supposed to give 'immunity' to the landowner when Joe Public wants to cash in on 'my fault insurance.'

Lastly....If I'm a lease holder paying really good money to a landowner so that I have access to property to hunt....let's use duck hunting for an example...let's face it...most of the property in question is leased to duck hunters...is it okay for some jackleg to come running through my leased duck ponds, cruising through the eroded marsh with his surface drive....because there is water that he can traverse that was once legitimate marsh? Now, you're the lease holder....what do you do? You complain to the overseer about some jackleg fishing in your duck pond, scaring ducks off with his loud exhaust or just the simple presence of being there. If you're the lease holder and some jackleg breaks into your camp and steals stuff from you, what do you do? You complain to the overseer. The overseer's response to these and other problems is simple. If you're not a lease holder, you have no business being there.

And to those saying 'put up a gate.' You should look up the current laws restricting that action. Otherwise, I'm sure there would be a lot more gates out there.

Pre 1980's....people respected other people's property. People understood, 'I can only fish this canal. I cannot go trolling up this mudboat ditch and into that duck pond to go fishing.' Landowners and fishermen got along great. Then, I'm guessing the fishermen began to get greedy....'If I can only get back there. I bet the bass are held up and waiting on me to catch them.' Then, one person does it....so, it's okay for another person to do it...because...'he was doing it.' Pre 1980's....people were also accountable for their own ineptness. There were no frivolous lawsuits where landowners had to payout millions because some guy was riding down the canal at night, with no lights....the canal dug by the landowner....and the boat driver strikes an object....such as a pylon or well head...that the landowner owned. So, now the landowner has to pay for 'your fault insurance.'

And....the irony of it all....guess who is able to afford paying the outrageous, skyrocketing prices for leasing that land....you guessed it....attorneys!
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You are correct in the lack of general respect for others compared to bygone years. And I understand the problems created by leasing duck hunters. However, creating another wrong is not the correct way to handle it. To anyone leasing hunting rights on land that includes navigable waterways, part of the deal you have to understand and accept is that the waterway is what it is. Open and accessible to everyone. If you don?t like that, don?t lease it. I?ve fished many a tournament where I?d like to fish a certain area but I left or didn?t go there out of respect for the hunters. I didn?t have to do that but as a hunter myself, I wanted to leave them their space. Not all will do that, I understand, but I come back to saying when the land is leased, you know the rules and you make a decision whether you can accept that or not. It?s not difficult. Everyone else in this great nation understand that and makes it work. Why can?t Louisiana? I?m born and raised here and 56 years old so I?ve seen a few things. I?ve just about had all I can take of this state in many respects and will be taking my life to Tennessee. I may come back some to fish Venice and with some friends occasionally but like many others, we are vacating this state about as fast as we can.
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   BlueShamu
You need to clarify your definition of 'navigable waterways.' Just because you can get your boat into it does not make it a navigable waterway in Louisiana.....nor in Texas for that matter.

If an oil company....say Continental Land & Fur or Louisiana Land & Exploration....or Miami Corporation.....pick any of the major land holders that are involved in this battle.....decides to cut a canal into that marshland for the purpose of oil exploration and/or production...and say that canal starts at a navigable waterway....like, the ICW....does that mean you now have the right to traverse that canal as though it is public?

I'll be more specific....the canal known as the Turtle Bayou Pipeline....between the ICW and Bayou Penchant....that canal was dug by the oil company. The ICW is navigable water. Bayou Penchant is navigable water. Turtle Bayou Pipeline is not. Nor are the canals dug off of TBP to provide the drilling company access to drilling sites/locations.

Good luck in TN. Not that there is near the water up there to navigate. But, when the MS River backwaters start flooding farmer\'s fields that are being leased to deer/duck hunters.....just because you can get a surface drive into those fields....are you trespassing on that farmer's land?? A very good analogy. I've lived in North MS and worked in TN....that's why I ask.
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