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hey widowmaker, you aint the only one!!!

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hey widowmaker, you aint the only one that kills small ones...heres one i got with my bow on the second day of bowseason last year...yall need to lay off of him....Briley
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   Jeremy
Were any of those two deer taken on a wma or refuge?
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keep up the good work. Dont let,em rest. The resentless pursuit of the smackdown.
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   Hip Boot
I cannot believe that anyone would actually pose with this baby and have a picture taken. I do not understand how you can be proud of that. If you hunted in our club/lease you would pay a fine for underweight and be put on probation. With pictures like this being posted its no wonder that the 6 pt rule is being brought up again. This is disgusting, I just cannot believe anyone could call themselves a sportsman and actually show fellow hunters this kill. This really shows what your hunting ethics really are. This is not sportsmanship.
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   Hip Boot
Sent it twice
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   DSmitty
Sad isn't even the word for that. That's just right ridiculous. And then to show it on a website.
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the only reason i shot it was b/c this was my first one with my bow...if it wouldve been with my rifle, i wouldve let it walk...you can say what you want...but i wanted to get my first one with my bow out of the way
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i dont care what you say...the reason i can pose with it and be proud is because any LEGAL deer that i get a chance to take is a trophy to me...not everybody gets to hunt on $1000+ leases....some just cant afford it...until then, ill take what i can get. and jeremy no they were both on private land.
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Briley, all of these guy's talking smack have not posted a single picture. All they do is talk trash. Don't let them get you down. If it's legal and you can take it. Then do it. If you don't then some one else will especially on public land. I understand what you posted earlier about wanting to get your first deer with a bow out of the way. I felt the same way. I was lucky and had a buck come by for me. It dosen't matter how big it is, any deer with a bow is a trophy! I would have been as excited about a small doe for my first archery deer as I was about a big buck. You can't eat horns. Not even with Bowtech's creative recipe. It took me years before I was able to connect with my bow. Let's see these smack talkers archery deer.......We are waiting.
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   tigers
what are you thinking to kill a little deer like that. Now I am only 15 and never shot my first deer yet but it I would see someing that small I would just watch it to see if any bigger ones might follow. Now if i really wanted to shoot my first deer I could do it in my back yard out of a window from my house. But I dont because that is like cheating. you now that little a deer is not as smart a muture deer. so you should be fool to shoot soming that size. thats nothing to brag about. If you shoot that little deer where is the real fun. you are an out right bad hunter if you go killing little deer like that you do should not hunt with a bow or riffle you shoot be hunting with a camera and just take pictures of something that small.
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   tigers
what are you thinking to kill a little deer like that. Now I am only teen and never shot my first deer yet but it I would see someing that small I would just watch it to see if any bigger ones might follow. Now if i really wanted to shoot my first deer I could do it in my back yard out of a window from my house. But I dont because that is like cheating. you now that little a deer is not as smart a muture deer. so you should be fool to shoot soming that size. thats nothing to brag about. If you shoot that little deer where is the real fun. you are an out right bad hunter if you go killing little deer like that you do should not hunt with a bow or riffle you shoot be hunting with a camera and just take pictures of something that small.
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   Bayou.
This is getting rediculous.If you want to kill yearlings then so be it(most of us have) but to post it on the internet is plain crazy.Your right,it is a legal deer,but boy we sure are showing our youth what real men kill.So widowmaker thinks he is the only real hunter because he hunts the swamp and kills yearlings,what a great accomplishment.Maybe one day we will all be great hunters like him.
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   lungshot
You know, it really says something when you have a kid that hasn't even killed his first deer yet, show more common since than some of the self proclaimed 'SEASONED' hunters here. It's kind of like cutting in front of an old lady in the grocery line. Sure it's 'LEGAL', but it's just plain chicken s**t.
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   woodie
No, it really says something when a kid says he wouldn't shoot a small deer and he has never killed one yet. Thats why the number of hunters is declining. What happens when he goes a few years and doesn't kill anything - he loses intersest and quits hunting.
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I just wanted to let everyone know about my recent fishing trip. I caught a limit of bass, 10. I had a total weight of 4.5 lbs. What a trip. They sure were good to eat.
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   Bayou.
Evidently this kid has been raised right and chooses not to shoot 40 pound deer.
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   Hip Boot
My lease is not even close to $1000 per year, I too am a working class hunter that can not afford a lot of money to hunt. I also know that someday I will probably have to hunt State/Public land, but I still will have my standards, that have nothing to do with where I hunt. The reason this is legal by this state, a legal deer is the simple 'no spots rule' we have. Most hunters are given the benefit of a doubt that they have more ethics than this. I personally do not support the six point rule, but when it comes to people like you and widow maker, that are proud of these kills..........If these are trophys to you we not only need the six point rule but we also do not need any doe days. The six point rule is to age deer, with you.......they don't make it to be a year old. I ask that you try just one time to sit in your stand and watch the deer that come into your area, you learn a lot by their actions and it is a good feeling to let an animal walk. To me its a challenge to see if they realize I am there. We are hunting for SPORT, we are not keeping our families from starvation. If you are that hungry for meat you should have taken the price of that bow you are holding and bought beef, you would have come out with a lot more quantity for your money!
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   francis
Keep knocking them down, do not let the trash talk get you down. They are all liers if they think their first deer were monster bucks that you only kill in canada or they payed 2000.oo or more to kill them. I think the 15 year old punk that cannot spell and sounds like an ebonics pro needs to keep his mouth shut. He is still hunting under his DADS hunting license and has not even begun to spend the amount of money that most of us do.Lets see what kinda deer he shoots in the future when its on his own dime. You sink $1000nds. into this sport so what if someone shoots a smaller deer for his first bowshot, it is his money,his choice, his reward. Most public land I've hunted he is lucky to have seen and shot that one. If you would not have shot it in the bow season trust me some older and supposidly ethical hunter in the rifle season would have.
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   Bayou.
Thats great francis,calling the kid a punk and a ebonics pro because he has higher standards then you should make you feel really good huh?If posting 40 pound deer on the internet makes some feel like they are awesome hunters then post away.I have a question though,why is it the so called 'REAL HUNTERS' are only posting these tiny deer?Surely there are a couple mature Doe in the swamps????
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man, this is getting rediculous. if the man killed this deer on his land then let it go. his land, his animal, his rules. i'm not saying i support killing small deer but hell, they sure taste good when they're younger. if i was hunting on public land i'd just be happy to see a deer. and honestly, taking anything with a bow is an achievement. whether it be a 10lb gar or a 500lb elk, its an achievement. like in the other post, we need to stop fighting with each other, there are bigger fish to fry out there, namely peta and all those other tree huggers and bunny lovers. whether you agree with his results or not ultimately you have no say. i wouldn't have shot the lil guy but hell, he was legal! lets drop it and be more supportive of sportsmen in general, the hippies are at our doorstep!
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   lungshot
Hey Francis. Before you call the 15 year old a punk that needs hooked on phonics, I'd suggest that you learn how to spell 'supposedly'. Or is it supposidly?

SEE DICK. SEE DICK RUN. SEE DICK PUT HIS FOOT IN HIS MOUTH. THE END.
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   lungshot
Francis. You said.....'Most public land I've hunted he is lucky to have seen and shot that one. If you would not have shot it in the bow season trust me some older and supposidly ethical hunter in the rifle season would have.' Well isn't that exactly the same attitude that the hunter in the rifle season has? Is that your justification for killing small deer? If so, then you just admitted that the only way to stop this cycle is to put size restrictions. But I bet you're one of the ones against the 6 point rule right? And I bet your reason for being against the 6 point rule, is because the 'kids' should be able to shoot their first deer regardless of size. Classic Louisiana politics 101. When desperate, trot out the 'kids', the 'teachers', or 'education' to gain sympathy. Yet when a 'kid' tells you that he doesn't want his first deer to be able to fit in a 2 gallon water cooler, you call him a punk and insult his intellegence.

Well, my advise to you, is to keep posting your ingenious opinions and comments. Because as long as people like you are on the other side of issues like these, I have nothing to worry about. You make argueing easy.

P.S.
Would you mind proof reading my post. I was in a hurry, and might have mispelled a few words. But what can I say, I have a Louisiana education.
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   francis
He said, she said. I ou could do this I can do that or I can say the same about the hunter next door that is all you complain about. Frankly the only deer I killed last year were 6 pts. but listening to you tell everybody on this site about how ethical you are and how you want everyone in the state to follow your rules and kill nothing but racks well, it makes me want to bring back the old saying if its brown its down. I have been killing deer in this state for 30 yrs. and have seen way more people come out of the woods with small deer than big ones and it is still the same now but people like you want to complain about it. Well if you like boiling down horns so much go hunt next door in Texas or Mississippi and give us a break with your right wing attitude. Hail Hitler hey lungshot
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I hear all these people bashing and don't see no pictures posted. I want to see these self rightous 'ethical' hunters post their archery deer. Where are they. You have nothing on this site to back up your talk. ANY DEER WITH A BOW IS A TROPHY!!!!!
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   lungshot
Like I said......keep on posting your champion responses. What a genious.
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   francis
that was a second grade response if i ever heard one. Hail Hitler Lungshot
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   lungshot
I'm not even saying that. You keep contradiction yourself. You say that if you let a small one walk, the next guy will just shoot it. BUT YOU PEOPLE ARE THE NEXT GUY.
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   francis
You people, what your better than us because you hunt in a six point or better area and I don't. You pay your money I pay mine. You kill the deer you want to kill in your parish and I will kill what the hell I want to in mine. Deal with it. If you want that to change have fun becoming a politician and trying to change it.
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   Bigjohn
Sounds like a bunch of whining babies! You guys are full of it! Your not going to tell me, that if you had never had a chance to kill a deer, that you wouldn't pull back on that string! Get real and tell your bull to someone else!!!! Congrats on your first deer with a bow my man! There are plenty of people out there that would love to have a chance at a deer like that with a gun!
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YES I WOULD, I HAVE HAD SMALL DOES (AKA..BABY DEER) AT THE BOTTOM OF MY STAND THAT ANYBODY WITH A BOW COULD HAVE KILLED AND LET THEM WALK. I WANT BY FIRST BOW DEER TO BE LARGER THAN 40LBS. THAT JUST ME BUT I DON'T JUST KILL SMALL DEER ALL THE TIME LIKE SOME DO ON HERE. I MIGHT EVEN SAY IT IS OK FOR YOUR FIRST ONE BUT NOT ALL THE DEER YOU SHOOT NEED BE SMALL ONE. HECK WHEN YOU THINK OF THE COST YOU COULD EAT T-BONE A LOT CHEAPER IF YOUR THAT HUNGRY...BRILEY DID AT LEAST POST A VERY NICE BUCK MORE THAN I CAN SAY FOR THE ONE WHO HAS POSTED ALL THE BABY PHOTO'S OF HIS OUT STANDING HUNTER SKILLS IN THE DELTA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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briley,my first deer ever was that big.A real hunter underrstands.
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   wireman
Briley, why do you want to egg all of these idiots on. Now you have them hoppin mad and we won't see any good post for awhile.
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Why not shoot this deer? This appears to be a 'regular' guy that does not hunt on a $1000.00 lease. I would have shot it. I am a 'regular' guy that only gets out a few times a year to hunt and when I do, I don't want anyone tellin me what to shoot. This deer (I assume) was taken LEGALLY. By the Louisiana Wildlife and Fishiries LAWS. so, QUIT bashing the man for taking a fine animal. young or old they still have the same nose. Hey Briley keep on killin...your hooked for life now.

Stick and String till I die...
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thanks everyone who is supporting me...i just want to say that in no way shape or form do i kill deer this small on a regular basis...like i said before, it was legal, and i hadnt taken a deer with my bow yet so thats why i shot it...you cant tell me that at one time in your life you havent killed a small deer, whether it be on accident or not...get over it, it was legal, and it was with my bow...i would have never killed it with my rifle thats for sure...i do enjoy watching deer, and have passed on deer in my short hunting career...but unless you have actually bowhunted, you dont know how much of a challenge it is to take a deer...this is by far the smallest one ive killed, and i dont plan on taking any more like this in the future...so if you think i go in the woods and get trigger happy on whatever i see, your sadly mistaken...briley
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Deer 101 your a cry baby SUCK IT UP.You can rest assured that if a legal deer walks in front of me ITS GOIING DOWN AND YOU CANT DO SQUAT AS I SAID BEFORE.Every one i WHACK this year i dedicate it to you.I will MAK,EM BLEED.
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   JB
If you do not regularly shoot deer like that then I do not have a problem with what you have done. I too have killed a small deer. It was a mistake and one I do not plan to duplicate. What is a shame is some people kill 5 or 6 deer that size every year. These people brag about it and expect people to except the fact that they will kill any and every legal deer that they see. For some people hunting is not a sport, it is a way to kill something, plain and simple.
That was a good buck you posted, I hope one day I will get one. Also, good job on getting your girlfriend interested.
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I like killing stuff its LEGAL.
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KILL
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I like killing stuff its LEGAL.HOW DO YALL FIGURE THESE DEER WER FROM ONE SEASON. IF THEY WAS YOU CANT DO SQUAT ABOUT IT.
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   woodie
Is it better to kill a 50 pound doe which probably wouldn't have fawns the next spring, or to kill a 125 pound doe which would probably have 2 fawns the next spring?
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On public land first legal deer in sight is going down .Its legal its the facts stand back out the way im going to reek havoc on the public land deer herd.AS LONG AS THEIR LEGAL SUCK IT UP ITS GOING TO HAPPEN.
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   JB
I never said/implied that you have done anything illegal. If I did I apologize. I know that the deer you have posted pictures of are legal and there is nothing that can be done about it. I just do not understand why you have to kill every legal deer you see. What is the harm in letting some (not all) walk. We can go back and forth on this forever and I will not change your opinion and you will not change mine, I would just like to understand why you feel like you have to shoot every legal deer that walks into range. The old saying 'If I do not kill it the next guy will.' is a load of steaming, stinking, BS. If you kill it it has a 100% chance of not getting bigger, if you let it walk, it's chances of survival go up tremendously.
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   duck77777
Explain to this guy that if its 50 pounds are 200 it all makes gravy.
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   JB
You are right, I can not believe I have not realized it sooner. I have a great idea seeing as how everybody just wants to put meat on the table. How about we do away with ALL rules and regulations? Let's get in the woods now and wait for does to drop their fawns and as soon as the tender morsels hit the ground we hit 'em in the head with a hammer. I bet we don't even have to debone 'em, just skin 'em, gut 'em and throw 'em in the pot.
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The wildlife and fisheries say they are legal.Weather you think it a shame are not its the law and i follow it.I hunt nothing but public land and i take every oppertunity it provides me. I do go DEER hunting to SHOOT deer.No matter what anybody says im gonna MAK,EM BLEED face it,suck it up whatever you have to do do it.As sure as the sun will rise tomorrow the widowmaker will whack 100% legal deer everytime NO EXCEPTIONS I APOLAGIZE TO NO ONE.They will suffer the wrath of the WIDOWMAKER.
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   duck77777
Now look you live in a state that does not manage for trophy deer. The manage for numbers and quality of the hunt. If you want bigger deer then go to a state that is managing for trophy deer. If they would let me I would wak-em and stack-em all year and hit them babies with hammers but they will not let me so the few times a year I do go I am not going to let them grow I am going to kill as many as they will let me big,liitle,horns,no horns,babys are monsters. It all makes gravy.
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   DSmitty
Man, they really need to install spell check on this site.
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   Chad D
Well, as one of the 'bigger is better' proponents on this site, let me muddy the water a bit...

First, a doe is a doe is a doe. if you are trying to remove does, then it doesn't matter if it is 200 pounds or 30 pounds. We have wrapped ourselves into what we think is ethical because of the way it has always been. For this reason, I always preach to people who are under strict management to shoot the first doe that they see, whether it be 30 pounds or 150 pounds.

However, when blasting simply for the sake of blasting, and bragging about how good of a hunter you are because you can kill the stupidest animal in the woods (prepubescent whitetails)you do nothing more than fuel the fire of people such as myself (which is the vast majority of us in this state) who will not rest until we see a day when our state comes out of the dark ages once and for all, all of the 'bumbling geniuses' are gone from our game agencies, and we quit losing all of our hunters to other states that realize that if they draw our hunters away they will make more money and actually be able to pay competant people to be in charge of managing their deer herd.

Now that I have said that mouthfull, let me just say to the couple of posts I have seen here that complain about kids killing their first deer, and losing interest, and taking the fun out of it, etc., please don't bring the rest of our IQs down with your ignorance. LA, which hs been providing maximum opportunity with the 'if it's brown it's down' rules for years, is the only state (yes only state) in the South that is losing hunters. And our hunters are not quiting the sport. Don't believe the hype that the LDWF puts out. Kids are being recruited at a faster rate than ever before across this country. Everywhere but here. Why? Why did GA's out of state licenses go up 74% last year when they instituted a 4 on one side restriction on one of their two bucks? Why did their license sales increase by 16% in the under 25 category? Why did AR's out of state sales increase by 300% over the past 4 years? Why do so many people you know who hunt or live around you go to MS to hunt? Why did LA's license sales decrease by 7000 people last year? You want to recruit younger hunters in this state? You want to keep people here paying into OUR license system to fund OUR Department? GIVE THEM A REASON TO STAY HERE.

These are facts people. Look them up for yourselves. You can't argue with facts. Quit using excuses to fuel your own egos. Get off your rears and realize that there is more idiocy in our Department being used to serve personal agendas instead of what is best for our state, our sport, and our futures. Stay blind to it if you wish. Continue to be part of the problem instead of part of the solution. Continue to plug away simply because 'you can', and watch as all of these public lands you stalk these deer on fade away because we don't have the money to keep them open.

In the past five years I have become intimately involved with what goes on in our Department, and I have become nauseated at what is happening over the past year or so. If you think you can't assist in running this state into the ground, keep it up. We're knee deep in it already.
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Whack- WIDOWMAKER says MAK,EM PAY DEER+LEGAL+ME=DEAD
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First of all it is legal and everyone has the right to shoot these babies if they choose, therefore other than a little friendly harrassing I wouldn't say anything.

I also understand that many people have often said its better to shoot the smaller deer than the mother. The mother has a better chance of surviving and by shooting the mother, the smaller ones may not survive, therefore by shooting 1 deer you may be indirectly killing 2-3 deer. If you shoot the little one the mother will probably survive and have 1 or 2 more little ones the next year.

With that being said I don't care if it was my first deer. I've only shot 5 deer in my life and if one of those babies came walking by my stand, I'd simply watch it. Even when I was trying to shoot my first deer, I had no interest in killing one of these babies.

I have no problem with people shooting small deer to put some meat in the freezer. What i don't understand is how someone can shoot 5-6 deer a year and still find it necessary to shoot these babies.

If its legal and it makes you happy, go ahead and shoot it, but I could never bring myself to kill one of these babies.
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   lungshot
Very well said. But I don't think you are intellegent enough to argue with some of these people. They'll probably respond with something much more thought out and meaningful, like 'kill' or 'wack 'em', and completely over-power your intellect. You are argueing with the pride of Louisiana.

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   lungshot
If you want respect, then act respectable.

If you don't want to be stereotyped, then don't be the stereotype.
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to all of you that think i kill 5 or 6 small ones like this a year, your wrong...in fact, this was the ONLY deer I killed last year.
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i deer hunted a few years because my kids wanted to. did the lease thing.planted the food plots and put out the feeders. to sit up in a stand which kept the deer from seeing me took the scent free baths. sprayed the scent killers on

even hung out the deer attractents. and we shot the deers from 100yds away, as they walked out in the food plots to eat the grass we planted or the corn we spread with the feeders.

even tryed the bow thing with the trigger releases low light sights which made it like almost shooting a rifle with limited range

just couldnt see the sport in it. it was fun but didnt really find it to be the challange some make it to be. it was kinda like shooting a alert cow.

took my kids last year they killed a couple i didnt even bring a gun.

if the object is to kill the deer which i dont have a problem with what diffrence does it make
kill it young or kill it old.

just because some wont big horns, if you were shooting a bow like the indians used to shoot

but useing a scoped rifle that can knock a deer down at 300yds big deal if its a 12point or a 40pd doe

to me i dont see the challange.and i just dont see anything worth sqabbling about.and i am not low rateing anyone who has posted your thoughts here. like i said hunting used to be fun if you got something you could brag about it a little not now

other than a little duck hunting im sticking to fishing you notice no one who post on here about fishing ever low rates or makes fun of school trout. so while fishing is still fun i think im gonna stick to that.

to the guy who killed the small deer wrap the back strap in bacon with a few peppers and pepperjack cheese because its gonna be good eaten

stan thomas holden la.

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   JB
I do not think that anyone is saying that all you kill are baby deer. I can assure you that I am not. The gripe that every is having is with a select few. It is with the people/person that claims that he will shoot any and every deer that does not have spots. Not only does this person/these people say they will do it, they also post pictures and brag about doing it. I still have not been enlightened by this person/these people what the harm would be in letting maybe one 35 lb. deer walk. Why does the first legal deer that is seen HAVE to be killed. It still seems to me that some people are not hunting for the sport or the food rather they are hunting for the pure pleasure of killing something. I enjoy killing deer as mich as the next person but I do not HAVE to kill everything that is allowed to feel like I am a good hunter. Briley, you have posted pictures of three different deer. One of them was a baby, one of them was a buck that is bigger than anything I have ever killed and I am sure most of the people that post here and the third was a picture of a big doe. Now, if all the pictures you posted were of 35 lb. deer then these comments would be directed at you also. Keep posting pictures of your deer and I am sure we will all see that you practice selective harvest, not 'WAC 'EM AND STACK 'EM' or however the typical saying from a typical Louisiana hunter goes.
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   JB
Stan

How is your son doing? Have not heard an update in quite some time. I hope everything is going well.
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   Redbuck
All ya'll people need to chill out about this small deer thing some people like to kill them some people don't. Stop crying people and just post your hunting reports!
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