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What is the best all around caliber rifle?

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What do you guys think is the best all around caliber rifle? My brother tells me its .270. All I am going to us it for is white tail, muleys, antelope, etc. Thanks.
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   LaAngler
.270 is a good flat shooting bullet, i find there are other calibers that drop deer in their tracks better tho.

i have had more drop shooting a .243 win than with my .270 win, and with about 1/3 of the recoil.

If I were buying another gun for deer I would get a 7 rem mag, which would also be good for long range antelopes and have the power for mule deer. and it's not a barrel burner like some of the short mags. Usually with the 7 mag that deer is coming down within sight.

A lot of fans of the 7mm-08 here, hard to go wrong with the .308. Nice to have a gun that you can find ammo at most any location.
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Well I have shoot a lot both service and cilivan rounds. I really like the .270 WSM you can shoot what ever you want I have a guy that can hand load me some 100 grain all the way up to some 150 grain bullets. I have shot coyotes to whitetail to very big hogs with mine and does fine. I also like the .300wsm can play with the bullet size to adapt to game. I have reports of people droping 500-700# Elk with the .270 wsm at 250yds. In what ever you choose learn the weapon, break it in right, and take care of it like your life depended on it cause maybe one day it will
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   hmouch1
.270 is the best all around caliber for hunting Louisiana. I have hunted with a .270 for the last 8 years and i have dropped nearly 80% of the deer takin in their tracks. It will reach out there around 300 yds and touch them as well. This is by far the best choice for me.
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I love my 270 browning A-Bolt SS stalker! It is awesome.
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   cullin
300 Mag or 300 Ultra Mag!

Go hunt what ever you want above the equator.
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30-06 and I think that is the only one I don't own
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I shoot a .270 and it gets the job done on whitetails here in LA. I'm sure it would do the same on the others you listed. I have read that experts say the .270 has more recoil and a louder report than many other calibers that are just as capable.

My wife shoots a .257 and it really knocks down a whitetail. I shot one at 180yds with the gun and it dropped in its tracks. Low recoil, softer report than my .270 and flat trajectory.

Have a buddy that shoots a .270 short mag that really shoots flat and strong. Better ballistics than the .270 I believe.

.308, 25-06, and 30-06 are both proven killers, as well as the .243 mentioned earlier.

the 7 mags and .300 mags and short mags are a little overkill for Louisiana where our shots are mostly under 200yds. For muleys and long distance, they do have an advantage.

There is plenty of ballistics information on the internet available that can help you choose.

If I could own 2 rifles, they would be the .300 short mag and the .257

If I had to own one rifle, it would probably be the .270 short mag. Check the ballistics and compare to the other popular guns.

Good Luck.
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   Neck Shot
Ive got a $300 gift card to academy so I am kind of stuck with their selection. Its looking like a remington 700 sps or a weatherby Vangard. Any thoughts on those?
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Nathan, spend the gift card on something else! Buy for life my friend, Buy a SS A-Bolt Browning Stalker! You will absolutely, hands down, never buy another rifle again. You can leave it to your grandkidz when ya kick the bucket!
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With the variety of bullets that you can find anywhere and it has probably killed more animals in North America than any other gun out their. Just my 2 cents though
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   gauger
Ain't too many things in life that can't be handled with a 30-06 and $700.
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   Jefroka
Trusty old Rem bolt action 270 does it for me. Heck you can kill deer with a 22 lots have. Do some research and also shoot some of your friend's guns.

There are many calibers that get the job done, don't rush your decision and don't just buy what's available now, pretty sure Academy can order you the one you want that they carry.

...Jefroka
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   yettii
I think the best all around caliber should be whatever you are most confident with. I own 4 rifles browning 30-06, 270wsm a-bolt, and a remington 7mag model 700,and a remington 243 model 7. I like all of them, but I am most confident with the 270wsm and the 7mag for long range and short range shots. On the other hand I love my 30-06 due to the fact that my teeth don't rattle when I pull the trigger. Any of these are good choices for what you are hunting. On the other hand you will want something bigger than a 243 for elk. One that I don't have but I wish I did is a 7mm-08 which I feel is a great choice for medium to elk size game. Hope this helps!
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All right $300.00 bucks to Acdamey. A lot of my rifles come from Wally-mart and Academy. Winchester Model 70 ($450.00) in .270 WSM , .300 WSM Burris 4 x 12 x 50 ($350.00) and for 850.00 you have a Rifle that will knock a whitetail deer flat on his butt And will last forever Can go to Midwest and Drop a Elk or go to Canada and drop a huge 300lbs Deer . It is all what your can afford and be comfortable with shooting. If you handle the recoil go big if not get good at head a neck shots.........
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   mr.coon
first of all, drop all of this "dropped in their tracks" garbage. that has to do with BULLET PLACEMENT. NOT THE GUN YOU ARE SHOOTING! i can drop an elk in its tracks with a .22 loaded with sub-sonics if i hit it in the right place. same goes for any animal. too many people go to bigger guns to "drop them in their tracks" instead of learning how to shoot! do you know how many hogs i have "dropped in their tracks" and seen "dropped in their tracks" with a .17mach2? a lot, because the gun is a tack driver, has low recoil, and has a super light trigger making it easy to shoot very accurately. the idea of using any of the .30cal mags on whitetails and especially louisiana whitetails is absurd. those are made for elk, brown bear, and africa. not louisiana whitetails.

now that my rant is over i would like to answer nathan's question:

the best all around caliber is .284" or also know as 7mm. because of their length to weight ratio, 7mm bullets are much stronger than bullets of lesser diameter such as .277" found on the .270winchester. this makes a 7mm bullet less likely to break up and fail on impact. Also, there is a much wider rage of factory loaded bullet sizes and styles to choose from with a 7mm. every single bullet style made is offered in 7mm. from 110gr bullets all the way up to 180gr bullets, simply pick your poison for the size game you are after. you can't say that about a .270. also, the slimmer profile of the 7mm bullet causes the bullet to drift less in the wind than a .30cal which makes it a great choice for long range shots.

the three most popular 7mils are the .280 remington, the 7mm remington mag, and the 7mm08.

i shoot the .280 remingtion now for a few reasons. i wanted a gun to do it all also. i wanted a gun that was a flat shooter, had moderate recoil, and could be used to hunt deer, elk, caribou, and black bear. after much research and consulting from some very experienced hunters and gun nuts, my choices were narrowed down to the 7mag and .280remington. they nudged me to the .280 out of a remingtion model 700 mountain rifle because of the style hunting that they knew that i would mostly be doing. boy did they pick it right!

i can get 140 to 165gr factory loaded bullets for it, not so with the 7mm08. also, it achieves the magical 3000fps with 140gr loads. actually, hornady loads a 139 grain at 3110fps for the .280, no 7mm08 load can do that. it has less recoil than a 7mag while maintaining not that much difference ballistically. also, i found out that it is possible to hand load the .280 to achieve equal ballistics to the 7mag. the remingtion model 700 mountain rifle is light and compact, it is a great gun to tote through the woods while carrying a stand. it is super easy to maneuver while in tight situations on the ground, treestand, and box stand. it has a 22" barrel and points quickly to deer walking through the woods a 40 yds.

so far approximately 50 whitetails, 8 hogs, and two 300+pound caribou have fallen to my .280. i have not lost a single animal with it. the only ones that "dropped in their tracks" were the ones that i wanted to drop in their tracks because i shot them in the shoulder, head, or neck. i double lung all of my deer because my favorite meat for rice-n-gravy is the shoulder, and i have yet to have a deer go more than 100yds.

the caribou fell in their feet at 300yds after being struck through the shoulders with 165gr accubonds, complete passthroughs on both shots.

p.s. i don't recommend shooting the remington 140gr psp's for smaller deer say under 130 pounds. they are made more for muley's and larger whitetails. on more than one occasion my bullet didn't expand with a behind the shoulder shots on small does, leaving an entrance and exit hole the size of the bullet. still, the deer didn't go far but they didn't bleed. if i were in a thick area i might have lost them.
i also don't like the 140gr winchester ballistic silvertips(same bullet as the nosler ballistic tip) they sometimes fail to leave an exit wound on close range shots, less than 50yds. of course none of this matters if you neck shoot and shoulder shoot.
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   LaAngler
"Nathan aka Bigfish Hunter
Posted Tue, Oct 7th, 2008 4:40 pm

Academy
Ive got a $300 gift card to academy so I am kind of stuck with their selection. Its looking like a remington 700 sps or a weatherby Vangard. Any thoughts on those?"

The remington SPS stainless would be a great gun, I also really like the weatherby vanguard submoa with fluted barrel, nice light but solid gun.

I have a remington model 700 BDL stainless synthetic in .270 win and it has been an awesome gun that is fail safe. The SPS is the newer version of it I believe.

In my opinion it's better to go ahead and get the gun you want because they do last forever and hold value.

wanna sell the academy gift card?
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I find that 30-06 is the best all around caliber many different grain bullets to choose from.
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BEEN SHOOTING A 7mm MAG FOR 25 YEARS NEVER LOST A DEER WITH IT.

IT'S ALL ABOUT SHOT PLACEMENT........
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   Neck Shot
Thanks for all of the info everybody.
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   ruger109
It's all about preference man!!! Get what you want. There are a ton of calibers that fit in the "good" whitetail caliber.

Just my opinion but STRICTLY BALLISTICALLY SPEAKING I think Coon is right. 280 is a GREAT gun for what you want, but then again I shoot a 30-06 and don't feel the need to change at all and would be perfectly happy tagging along on any hunt!!!
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so whats the true difference between the 270 and the 30-60?? I know that it has been said that the 270 shoots flatter? But how much flatter? What are the typical ranges of the two guns?
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   LaAngler
Mr.Coon I disagree, your saying that a 30-30 will drop deer the exact same as a 7 rem mag?

i think certain calibers have a combination of velocity and energy that can actually put more shock on impact to a deer.

However, I do agree that shot placement is crucial.
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   mr.coon
"sorry
Mr.Coon I disagree, your saying that a 30-30 will drop deer the exact same as a 7 rem mag?"

yeah. a deer going straight to the ground is a deer going straight to the ground. who cares how much magnum jelly
is generated and what you shot the deer with. the results are the same. the deer didn't go any where.

it is all about shot placement
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I can't believe you guys out there have not mentioned the 308.I have all cal.you talked about and love them all.Just a thought.Good hunting.
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   Sofalofa
50 cal muzzleloader. I hunt with it all season and NEVER have had to track a deer. They drop where they stand. I also have used a .270, very effective but not like the 50 cal. With the right bullet, deadly at 125 yds. $210.00 at academy. plus scope
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   Copehagen
The NRA American Hunter magazine recently had an article where in the article it state the BC balistic coeffcient of the .308 is about as good as it gets and is nearly the perfect all around caliber. Additionally all branches of the US military which field snipers have their snipers shooting .308 and these guys have been shooting .308 since Vietnam. Keep in mind we have confirmed kills out to 1,500 yards. If the .270 was the ideal caliber the military would be using that instead of the .308. I've shot everything and own most everythign from .223, .243, 7mm-08, 25-06, .270, .270 whetherby, 30-30, .308, 30.06, .44 mag, 7mm mag, and .300 mag and .300 wsm, and .300 whetherby and .50 and .45 caliber muzzleloader and nothing compares to the versatility of the .308 cartridge. My buddy has a panther dmps SASS (semi-automatic sniper system) its zeroed at 300 yards I saw him friday of last week shoot out to 500 like it was nothing your just not going to do that with many other calibers, unless its a .50.
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i have alot of riffles and all mine are 270 or larger. my favorite is my model 700 Rem 7mm. it has been my all round favorite.
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   kyle10
.50
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   eman(R)
10,
Have you ever fired a 50 cal. weapon?
Not something you would want to hunt any animal other than humans with.
confirmed kills of more than one mile by snipers.
BUT, This animal WILL make ground meat on BOTH ends.
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   kyle10
no, i just like the idea of it, ever seen snatch the movie?
DESERT EAGLE .50
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I hunt with a 50.cal S&W 500 Mag. and it's nothing like what ya'll are talking about.
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   JIMMY W
577 T-REX
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The calibers that have been commented on or all very good calibers and will take most game in North America. It all comes down to two things; Comfort and cost. Let's face it ammunition prices have jumped up alot. The bigger calibers more than the rest. Bench shooting large calibers is literally a pain, but when you have the crosshairs on the animal you never really feel the recoil. You can't go wrong with the old reliable 30-06. The versatility of the round is historical and it is still very economical to shoot. Depending on the size of game you are hunting and the distance you are shooting you can change sizes of bullets grain wise to fit. I have hunted with several calibers and the one I am most fond of is my 25 WSSM. It is a fast round and the exspansion is impressive on deer. Exit holes are a little bigger than a golf ball with 120grn bullets. The rounds are hard to find though.
Best advice... shoot different calibers and rifles and find one that fits comfortable and shoots to your liking. My father said the best shooting gun he ever had was an M-14. He said the rifle just fit him good.
Good luck on your search. Let us all know what you come up with. It always makes for good conversation.
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I like the .308. But that is a personal preference. My .308 has never let me down.
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   drake7
I would consider the 7mm-08. The round is more than enough sufficent for whitetail hunting in Louisiana and all of the above listed. Plus light recoil.
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   wackycan
My Browning A-Bolt 270 SS is my favorite firearm. Really, it's fantastic. redactle
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   marosol
There is no clear 'best' all-around caliber rifle as it depends on the intended use. However, some popular choices for versatility include .308 Winchester, .30-06 Springfield, and .270 Winchester. residential drywall contractor
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