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What do you'll think about this? As many of you know already there are some BIG signs at the entrance to Crawford canal saying keep out etc. I just looked at Bob's Bayou black site www.bayoublackmarina.com The site has on it NOTICE: Dwayne Crawford has closed Crawford canal to all fishing. Does Bob not realize that when all the canals around him get posted he will have no more business? He should be an advocate to stop such things. Just my 2 cents.
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I haven't been that way in a while but heard about it -
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im sure i know this, but where is crawford canal?? im familiar with the bayou black area, but dont know what canal that is...
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Just past Lake Hackberry on the left when you go out of Bayou Black marina.
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Heading East when you pass Hackberry...... 1st canal on the North side.... the next is Antill then Orange Grove. Is it gated off or just a sign? Can you legally post a bayou with just a sign? I was in Orange Grove last weekend and hit the ICW from Antill but didn't notice Crawford.
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Not gated off yet! Stress yet!
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thats the problem...it doesnt have to be gated or have a sign to get you for trespassing....thats been the problem with the laws around here....a landowner does NOT have to have a sign saying private or no trespassing...

thats not a natural bayou, its a canal..

this is why i was asking about a clear map of public/private waterways a few discussions back....south louisiana is getting insane with this crap...

I think ( and this is my opinion) if its not gated, it should be open...in other words, if you OWN a canal and you dont want people in it, put a gate...this will make it easier for the "WW" (weekend warrior) like myself to go fishing with my family and know that i am LEGAL, and not have to worry about some old creepy dude in a airboat shooting at me or cursing at me or calling the law because i am trying to catch a few fish with my family....

then again...i guess the time to repair this has passed...before long, the way things in this country are headed, it will be illegal to own a boat, or even a fishing pole...
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You can also get into Crawford Canal through a drainage canal that is about ten feet wide the last time I passed. I also notice along Hwy 182 where the Crawford comes to the front there is some oil company sign and new office building.
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i dont know how manyh of you noticed also but go around bayou black and see how many canals they have just blocked off with a levee. its outragious. we are running out of canals. cant wait till they block the bluebird, then we going to see people complain
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   Cal
From the looks of it , Obama wants our guns and Butt hole land owners blocking canals , the outdoorsmen are gonna be in a bind soon .
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Now that I have stirred the pot. I think anyone who launches at Bayou Black should ask Bob if he is crazy for putting something like that on his website. It directly affects all his customers.
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I would just use it. If enough fight it it'll be a problem and they'll have to change something. Otherwise bend over
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it all started with the company canal! now, that is definetly a navagable waterway, i think, it runs from gheens, thru bayou lafourche, all the way to bourg, into bayou terrebonne? how could anybody block any part off, i can't figure, now the crawford, like ya'll say, what's next? if i was bob, i would go and see an attorney and find out what is going on and make sure the guy has the right to do this by law!! maybe,when anybody gets run off from anywhere, ask the guy his name. then, they could go to the clerk of courts office and check the records to see who owns it and try to find out if they have the right to run you out!! it could be some guy, that just don't want you fishing there, that wants it for himself? if the guy does"t own it, make a copy and keep it with you.if he owns it, try talking to an attorney. they probably would just charge a consultation fee? wouldn't hurt to try!! in la., if you got the cash, you can do anything!!! that's my opinion!!
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   big guns
if its going to be private it needs to be dammed off so public fish can't get in. i had a friend that got a ticket for fishing a canal and he got an attorney and it got thrown out because he did not cross over a levee are get on the land.other people have got tickets for crawfishing in basin that gets thrown out before court because its not trespassing if you don't cross over a levee.they are just trying to scare people into not doing it. i say f!!! them !
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   duckdough
Great now I can only go fishing if I have an Attorney. Is it possible Bob may be just warning us before the citation gets issued. How many boats can we get in that canal. Just My Two cents.
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I don't think you can be written up for fishing any canal that does not have either a sign or an obstruction that is there to prevent you from getting in.

As for blocking a waterway, I may be wrong but I think if it is a "navigable" waterway or a waterway that leads from one navigable waterway to another, it cannot be legally blocked. I know Cenac tried to block Minors a few years back and the Corps of Engineers told him to get his crap out of the canal NOW. In other words, I don't think anyone would have the right by law to block Minors Canal between the ICW and Decade or Turtle Bayou between the ICW and Penchant, etc... even though they are canals and not natural bayous.

ZX20BAY - you know anything about the law on this?
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I fished the crawford last weekend, didn't catch anything but ill continue to fish it till the gate it off. Tidal waters
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   brody
Is this the guy who run contineltal land and fur leases. He has every judge and lawyer in his pocket. Who do you think he reserves all the prime duck leases for in the Bayou Black area.
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   Spoon Man
Hey Duckslayer88, when they levee off the Blue Bird is when we all break out the dynamite. They did the same thing with Union oil years ago. In my old stomping ground, Golden Meadow, the jerks who run their guides in that area posted just about every canal that people have fished for the last sixty years. It's not even worth owning a boat if that's where you want to fish.
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i know where you talkin about to in golden meadow, every canal is posted but i will continue to fish there until they tell me something. but it is getting really bad in babyou black. i can almost promise you if you call the corp of engineers, half those canals are not suppose to be dammed off. especially in the turtle bayou area.
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Ray...... When you "CALLED" you found out only two people showed up - apparently you weren't one of them. So - we're all gullible because we're talking about gated canals on a website..... we'd be shakers and movers if we picked up the phone after the fact to see what happened? Call me gullible!
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   duck-head
If these people allowed dredging of a canal and claim it as a soley private canal they are claiming responsibility for wetlands loss and should be required to pay for habitat restoration. They are also responsible for damages to surrondings lands. They pocketed the money when the oil companies dredged the canals, now they want the canals to be their own private fisheries, NOW they are responsible for the habitat loss and saltwater intrusion.

How about louisiana sportsman? Where do they stand on this issue? Why can't La sportsman organize the support to open these canals back up. I would bet 95% of louisiana sportsman customers would sign a petition and give support.

Would a class action law suit open some of these canals back up?
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Would this be the same Crawford that has land out of Amelia?
Ray, Smith is another one. What an a-hole. The Crawford that we have had run ins with in Amelia was even a bigger a-hole.
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   bs186
Does anyone know who is responsible for Lake Theriot being gated and private? Who owns the lake? Who has it leased? Lots of people learned to fish there.
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...one call 'dats all, and tear up them quick checks too... " where-o-where in "Red Stick" can 'ya find a broke un-castrated attorney...that fishes "...cheers
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I can find out who has Lake Theriot for you. I have a friend that Deer hunts one whole side of the Lake. I'll send you the info when I get it.
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Cenac posts Lake Theriot but it is the State Land Office that is responsible for letting people claim state lands.
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It is the State Land Office that is responsible for determining what is state land and what is private land. Or in the case of contested claims, the court system.
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You fair weather fishermen are drawing some attention ! , touching on most of this subject. If the canal is not blocked with a gate it ie deemed to be open to the public ! the surrounding land may be leased or owned by an indivudal or intenity , there for in court they cannot defend there selves to open waters! on the lake theriot situation ,,, well i happen to know a little history on the place ,, the canal leading to the lake was dug in the 50's by the towing co. of the said owner ,, hence had it open to the public for many years untill someone saw a way to try to profit from it ,, then it closed up. Crawfoishard canal area is owned by several property owners , and one cannot block another from entering ,,, if i'm not mistaking the name craw has links to a section on the west side of the canal. Most oilfield companies really don't want anyone traveling across there waters in fear of accidental mistakes ,, so they lease out the bottoms to trappers and they can keep you out of the oilfield canals ,, which by the way also have to be propoerly marked ,, and if you own or lease land behing them they have to give you right-of-way to your property ! When there comes a time to stand up and be heard EVERYONE must attend and speak up ,, we faught for redfish status to remain gamefish a few years ago and i nKnow that we must have done it right because we won ! ,, i've seen some of the same names in here that we were fight against ,, so there extremest to fighting for things there way and must be stopped ! Stand up and be counted , it's the only way.
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   bs186
Thanks for the info about Lake Theriot. I'm sure lots of people didn't know.
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   hipboot
I just spoke to the state land office about this yesterday. I was advised that if a waterway was not a state claimed waterway by 1812 standards the property owner can stop traffic on this through water. It can be posted or gated, or nothing, it is your responsibility to know where you are and where you are legally allowed to go. Go to the state land office site and you can see what is considered to be "State Claimed Waterways". The 1812 standard is a waterway where steamboats traveled in 1812. It is very plain and also in the state of Louisiana you do not have to "give" anyone access to land. In this state you must purchase a right of way. Learn your realestate laws and your state waterway laws. It is very simple and it all goes back to respecting others property rights. You can also call the State Land Office he is very helpful and will explain everything to you.
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