La.BC

February 22, 2009 at 2:16pm

Small La. deer--

February 23, 2009 at 10:55am

Thanks for that post nutty, LA hunters will appreciate the genetics and habitat we have to support a large herd of quality deer. The reason we have a influx of small bucks killed and few big bucks killed in LA is poor restrictions and shoot on site mentality, if we could just overcome the fever when reluctantly seeing a deer in LA not to shoot it and however many will hold still enough---instead we need to let the young bucks walk and shoot does for meat instead of small bucks. I think a few years of this would make LA 100% better.

sowtrout1

February 23, 2009 at 10:59am

Killed on a high fence hunt or not?
Would you care to tell what part of the state you killed it (NOT the exact location)?

bayoubushwacker

February 23, 2009 at 11:06am

It's a nice buck no doubt but, what place does it rank amoung all the top state record bucks that was killed on public land and/or private land/leases that "brown and down" it and/or run dogs?

BTW, LA has a new plan in place that lets more small bucks walk and get thru the cracks to be able to get to an older age. It's called the 3/3 split. It cuts the amount of bucks in half of what you were able to kill since, oh, the beginning of deer seasons?

Do you have permission to be posting somebody else's picture? Unless that is yours and you have written consent, that is a copyright infringement.

Happy Hunting!

BellPepperHead

February 23, 2009 at 11:19am

They don't count...

iceman80

February 23, 2009 at 1:31pm

I happen to know that guy and I know he isn't "nutcracker". Did you ask permission to post his picture?

nutcracker

February 23, 2009 at 1:46pm

go figure,bushy can dig up split-toes pic. --like normal double standard with him--I am sure grady weeks owner of black hawk does not mine advertisement for his land--for those who are not familiar with his lease go to his web.site --huntblackhawk.com--

sowtrout1

February 23, 2009 at 2:12pm

So was this deer taken on a high fence property or not? I know a person that raises 25 pound rabbits on a high fence property, so if the deer in your pic is from a high fence, I am not impressed.If it was taken on free range, either public grounds or a lease- I am impressed. Just tell us which.

BellPepperHead

February 23, 2009 at 2:33pm

This is a high fence deer.

sowtrout1

February 23, 2009 at 2:40pm

BPHead- thanks for the info.
If thats the case, what does the author of this thread really have to say?
"I can grow deer like this in my pen"? So what?
I know people with pen raised deer that have also assigned names to them, and can tell you when "Big Ears, or Old Pappy" will be coming in to feed on which shooting house, err, I mean which stand........

Shooting a BC trophy in a high fence is like shooting fish in a barrel. That's why B&C will not accept your antlers into their books....

bayoubushwacker

February 23, 2009 at 2:57pm

B&C doesn't except them either. Nor do most ethical hunters.

"go figure,bushy can dig up split-toes pic. --like normal double standard with him--I am sure"

WHAT? I posted a reply to a picture of a deer split-toe posted that he killed. YOU went and copied someone else's picture without their permission to try to prove your point that simply because some deer GROWN in a controlled environment in LA could be what all of LA can have simply because it was GROWN in the same air space. You need a reality check! "Double standards". NOT! Once again, you have removed all doubt!

Hey, if yall notice, you can see the collar on that deer that has his little bell on it! Or was that where he was tied to the tree at? I would be more proud of a scraggly 4 point than a deer from a canned hunt.

nutcracker

February 23, 2009 at 4:59pm

WHAT? I posted a reply to a picture of a deer split-toe posted that he killed. YOU went and copied someone else's picture without their permission to try to prove your point that simply because some deer GROWN in a controlled environment in LA could be what all of LA can have simply because it was GROWN in the same air space. You need a reality check! "Double standards". NOT! Once again, you have removed all doubt!

split toe did not give you permission, better be careful with splity he has a couple of attorneys in his family--you sound like a first grader--teacher-teacher he pulled my hair--you copied my sentences without my permission--teacher-teacher--again you make up rules as you go--answer questions directly instead of like obama--killing a deer in a fenced in area is the same as radio collared dogs driving deer to be shot,the only difference is the fence does not bark--your stupidty is really sad,i would wager your unemployed zero,that has never hunted la. wma's--Your little feeble mind does not believe if you moved blackhawk's operation anywhere's in the state besides where it is now that it would not work?????That grass really did you in--

drew-b ----i never said anything about me killing this deer ,your like bushy making statements not related to different post on here---- i cannot believe that blackhawks deer would drop dead if you could snap your finger and the fence would disappear--man its hard to be a first grade teacher--

nutcracker

February 23, 2009 at 5:14pm

since most here are against high fence hunting,can you imagine hunting in a fenced in area with dogs,but i know why that would be against your thinking is because the dogs could not dig under the fence to go on the neighbors property--

shootinem

February 23, 2009 at 5:22pm

Dog hunter's wouldn't hunt in a high fenced are it's un ethical, and most would consider it down right cheating. Any idiot can go kill a deer inside of a high fence. What's the sport in that. There is none it's just target practice fool!!!

Bucks Only

February 23, 2009 at 5:37pm

Shooter2 is about to come to Nuty's rescue... Nutty, that is a nice deer!!! However, I like most people don't agree with shooting deer in a high fence... Not that I would never do it, but I wouldn't brag about it!...
Now I know where Blackhawk is and I heard it was a nice place, however I don't know much more about it... But I would be willing to bet they have imported genetics inside that pen!!! If not, I stand corrected!!! But he is sure missing a good chance to do so!

grocerygetter

February 23, 2009 at 6:04pm

Got one just like that growing in my back yard...He's gettin to big for my yard...would turn him loose but the people in the sub division might not like a buck of this magnitude running around..It will just attract to much attention...I'll just have to let someone take him...I'll start the bidding off at $25,000!

bayoubushwacker

February 23, 2009 at 6:05pm

It sure is funny how everybody else is always wrong and nutsacker is always right! I guess that's what happens when you live in your own little world.

"split toe did not give you permission, better be careful with splity he has a couple of attorneys in his family"

I have already told you, "it's better to be quiet and appear an idiot than open your mouth and remove all doubt." Because we do not doubt that you are indeed an idiot. I do not have to get permission to reply to someones post. HOWEVER, you should get permission before you post somebody else's deer pic without their knowledge, especially one that will cause controversey such as a canned hunt. You are comparing apples to rocks here dude! I have some attorneys in my family. So What? And all of them in both familes will say that you are an idiot and replying to a public thread is nothing like copyright infringements in which you have done. What I did was made a legal comment. You however, are playing with federal laws. But you are seriously too deranged to see that. Probably can get off with insanity plea.

You're killing me dude!

DownshiftAndFloorIt

February 23, 2009 at 7:27pm

Dude if you wanna shoot in a high fence so be it. I don't like making remarks like this but since you are very willing to state your opinions on dog hunters imma go ahead and throw in mine about high fence posers. To me, shooting a deer in a high fence is the VERY EXACT same as going to a big cow pasture that has a few acres of big trees on it, picking out the bull, and putting a bullet in him. Maybe he'll get away, but who cares? He's still gonna be there tomorrow you'll get him next time. Sure, you killed something a thousand times bigger than anything I will ever kill, and sure, it probably is some kinda B&C record or something, but I promise you had nowhere near as much fun nor near as much challenge as I had taking down my 14" 8 point infront of a pack of hounds. To me high fence shooting is more un-ethical than shooting a deer at night with a q-beam. At least the deer at night can get away where you can never see him again. To me the deer in the fence has no chance. He might get away from you, but there will always be a next guy, and a next guy, and a next guy. He never has a chance. I dont care if anybody does it. If thats what you wanna do than go ahead you aint in my way, but if you kill a thousand point in a fence and a doe on a WMA, the doe is more of a trophy than the fence buck. Thats my rant on Fence Shooting.

shootinem

February 23, 2009 at 8:34pm

You hit that 1 right on!

Copehagen

February 23, 2009 at 11:29pm

I don't even know what this post is about, but I read Black Hawk in someones response. The two low life, scumbag, pieces of human debris that own black hawk are trial attornies. These two azz clowns are the worst of the worst, the bought their place and then turned around and sold a Conservation servitude to teh governmeat 80% of full or perfect ownership value. meaning if brady or grady or whatever the head douch bag's plantiff atornies name is, paid $2,000.00 per acre the government turned around and paid him $1,600.00 per acre for the conservation servitude.

Then these two trash bags got together and decided to sue the oil and gas company that had leased the land from the previous land owner and made the prior land owner rich by claiming the property was contaminated. If the property was so contaminated why did'nt these two legal eagles post a disclaimer on thier web site about the deer being shot on their place being harmfull to the people who hunt their and eat the meat. Why because it wasn't contaminated it was a money grab by a bunch of ambulance chasing scum bags, they grow huge deer there and have tons of food plots (all on contaminated land of course according to two wasteoids that own the place). I am not againest anyone working hard and achieving their dreams and goals but these two fat, lazy, thieves did it by defraudign the us tax payer and sueing their way into their dreams. Nice, anyone on here know these c//k s*c*ers, their trash and deserve to have their fat a**es K*cked above their shoulders.

Bucks Only

February 24, 2009 at 12:10am

Hey Copehagen, tell us how you really feel about the Blackhawk Plantation!!!... LMAO... I don't know these guys, just got a kick out of your post!!

nutcracker

February 24, 2009 at 5:15am

never seen a bunch of yo-yo's that cannot focus on the meat of this thread--no one said anything about hunting in fenced in area's except to one i said about dog hunting in them-the subject is growing big deer in la.--i brought up the fenced in area of blawk-hawk showing that deer can grow big in la. same as anywhere's esle--the people that own it have nothing to do with this subject be it lawyers or whomever--you chit eaters will always run around the meat of dog hunting,dog hunting and fenced in area's are one in the same--its funny now that the doggie bunch cries about folks zeroing in on their style of hunting and now you are putting down on fenced in areas to hunt--pot calling the kettle black--both styles are unsportsman as for as most or concerned--

cullin

February 24, 2009 at 6:25am

Blackhawk imports bucks and impregnated does from huge bucks from all over the country to breed and grow. I personaly am against high fence hunting! It doesn't matter if it is 1,000,000 acres. It is still fenced and the deer can not get out!!!!! Boone & Crocket and Pope & Young will not allow high fence into record books. I would not do it for FREE and that is my honest to gods truth.

I am NOT bashing you or anyone that enjoys to hunt high fence. Congratulations on your kill. It is a VERY nice buck!

bayoubushwacker

February 24, 2009 at 9:07am

I've only seen one yo yo that always makes everything about dog hunting. And now that yo yo thinks that the State can grow wild deer within the State that are equal to imported deer of a different sub-species that has been specifically bred for their genetics. And then raised in a pen, fence or whatever, which is a controlled environment. They are hand fed high protein food year round and probably given all sorts of vitimins and supplumentary nutritional programs. Kept away from humans, predators, vehicles and any other normal things that real wildlife have to live with. No, I see one yo yo and that be you you!

By the way, HE DIDN'T EVEN KILL THIS DEER! HE COPIED AND USED IT FROM SOMEBODY ELSE WITHOUT THEIR PERMISSION!

shootinem

February 24, 2009 at 11:17am

I almost feel sorry for your dumb pathetic azz. Almost. Don't know how you can say dog hunting is not a sport. I guess those of us that use dogs to hunt rabitts and squirrel it's not a sport either right? I said before I'll say it again. You and everyone else that complain about the dogs are just making excuses! YO-YO!!!!

bayoubushwacker

February 24, 2009 at 11:31am

Trying to compare Blackhawk to what Louisiana could be with proper management. That is so funny!

nutcracker, Blackhawk answers your own question on their website: "The area is composed of open agricultural land, dense Mississippi River hardwood forest, Cypress swamps, flood plains and deltas, which combine to create a UNIQUE and diverse habitat where whitetail deer flourish."

And you STOLE that image off of their website dude!

Not to mention, their "trophy room" really isn't all that impressive. Yea, you hand feed deer and let them reach 5.5 and 6.5 years of age then they will be large deer, no doubt. Good thing they have their own "record book" because nobody else will except it.

Oh yea, they offer 2 hunts.
1) $5000.00
2) $8500.00

I can see all the hunters in LA paying that much to support your plan to grow hand raised trophy deer state wide.

http://www.huntblackhawk.com/main.html

sowtrout1

February 24, 2009 at 12:12pm

Is it true that the deer in this fenced area actually have a price tag on thier antlers- so that when you and the guide get to the deer, you know EXACTLY how much the deer will cost?
I know of another high fence hunt in Louisiana that will lease you a stand BY THE HOUR ,with trophy fees attached if you do decide to kill an animal.
Is this what deer hunting has been reduced to in Louisiana?
Like Europe, the United States is fast becomming a place where only the rich will be able to hunt, or, you will share a tree with John Q.Public on a WMA........
sad,sad..................

nutcracker

February 24, 2009 at 5:47pm

obama has nothing over you,lies and half truths--you cannot find any thread that says i want high fence hunting--again you and the other idiots that follow your rants say complete lies about this thread--the whole thread started about bigger dear in la.--you keep crying about stolen pic. which unlike yours about splity whom you do not know was also stolen--so if you want to feel like you have done something great by saying i stole a pic. on a web-site so be it--you cannot focus on the true issue here so you make up stupid chit to evade the real questions--the fence issue again is in your feeble mind, i assume that you think that all the feed, vitamins etc. given to those deer cannot be given or managed in a normal lease--again its strange that you can slam high fencing (which i do not care for) but if some one esle slams your style its not ok..double standard i would say--but i have to consider the source--i am not the one having to try and make my style of hunting apeal to the public because i have run it in the ground--so do not feel sorry for me,its your bunch that needs someone to feel sorry for them, losing there way of hunting because they could not keep their chit together!!

CaptJS

February 24, 2009 at 6:57pm

Spent it all on corn to bring them in lol the true why to hunt.

cullin

February 24, 2009 at 7:38pm

You are hunting tame deer in a pen! Why does that make you feel good? You didn't accomplish anything. I hear your argument, but if there isn't anything wrong with it then why do they (High Fence Kills) not count in any scoring system? Just help me understand that.

The kid that killed that MONSTER at lake Ophelia this year has really done something special and it was fair chase! He is in the record books! Are you? LOL

By the way, you lied on the topic. Your deer is NOT a BC buck!

bayoubushwacker

February 24, 2009 at 8:36pm

Yea sowtrout1, they make sure you know how much it is going to cost you for that trophy buck and it has to be paid IN FULL 7 days before the trip. To answer your questions about the "high fence", I found this in one of their promos:
"Blackhawk Plantation, the premier HIGH FENCE TROPHY hunting lodge in the south, located in Louisiana"

TROPHY HUNT****
4 days hunting, all meals included.
Private furnished cabin, cable tv, microwave and wi-fi
$5000.00

SUPER BUCK*****
4 days hunting, all meals included.
1 on 1 Private Hunt 140-169 Gross Score
Edited DVD of your hunt
Private furnished cabin, cable tv, microwave and wi-fi
$8500.00
**LA license not included**

Blackhawk is also the focus of HSUS and have an article called "Don't Fence Me In" talking about canned hunts and fair chase. I have to say that I agree with their article! It is immoral and it is wrong!

I found another topic on this site that nutty was apart of as well. And there was something that was asked in that topic that really concerns me. ~ "where do all the deer from the river side of the levee go with the water so high???? From the hydro plant for about 2 miles or more Blackhawk has a 8ft game fence so the deer either must funnel along the fence for a long way or does Blakhawk open up some of there gates just enough for these deer to come in and not let any out?"

Are the stealing the free roaming deer in the area as well?

Nutty, I have answered your question already. Normal habitat within the state CAN NOT be like this place as this place is a controlled environment. Not going to happen. The state is not going to make it mandatory and force everybody to spend 10's of 1000's of $$$$$ every year to basically "pump steriods" in bucks to make them trophy deer just so your chances of killed a nice deer can improve. This adds nothing to the skill of the hunter. Sad! It really is sad! To see people wanting to further the commercialization of the BUSINESS of hunting trophy whitetails. The future of our sport and heritage is in real danger!

eggplant

February 24, 2009 at 11:16pm

SOUNDS LIKE NUTCRACKER IS MARRIED TO BETTY WHITE AND IS ALSO A MEMBER OF PITA.GROW SOME B*LLS.HUNT LIKE THE REST OF US POOR BASTARDS.

nutcracker

February 25, 2009 at 5:06am

the one time high water effected their lease the gates were open to allow dear out of the lease--I guess once out you would not have shot one--You keep lieing about me approving the high fence hunting when my statements are only to show big deer can be grown in la.--this is how you divert your stupidty from the real issue,again normal obama mania--what goes on with the hunting in blawkhawk is another issue,for another time,alot of your free roaming deer in the state have come from other areas to better the herd,so i guess we are in the same boat if we look at it from your narrow brain--One thing about it,fenced in operations will be around longer than dog hunting--is that right or not,could care less for either--

DownshiftAndFloorIt

February 25, 2009 at 7:03am

Fence shooting will be around longer than dog hunting because shooting deer in a fence was made for people with more money then sense and dog hunting is for regular ol people like me. Your right the man with the most money has the most say.

sowtrout1

February 25, 2009 at 7:14am

What was the deers name (the deer in the pic).
I know that the people that run the shooting gallery had a name for him, just curious what it was. If you mount this deer, will you put his name on the plaque tag along with the date, etc??

nutcracker

February 25, 2009 at 7:27am

i know folks that have killed deer at night and mounted them--to each his own--

the truth shall set you free--in your case you will never be free--

fact: whether or not you agreed with high fence hunting their is one plus,the hunting does not disturb the neighbors properties, unwanted, like dog hunting does--

BangFlop

February 25, 2009 at 7:32am

I can't believe I read this whole thread. Looks like Copenhagen said it all.

bayoubushwacker

February 25, 2009 at 8:03am

If you know hunters that have killed deer at night and you have not turned them in then, you are part of the problem. But then I guess your little horn greedy unskillful hunter group you hang out with doesn't care about how they get a "trophy" on the wall. Yall all take the easy way out!

And now you have spun off on some Obama spewing rant. I have no idea where you come up with these ideas you have. I guess when you live in your own little world they teach you a new way of life.

Fact: The fact is, high fenced hunting bothers all descent hunters and descent people as the people who own them and hunt in them are indeed disturbed individuals. And then there's Nutty! Ol' nutsacker! Their leader! The leader of the nutpack! The one whom is truly disturbed.

I think that it should be mandatory that you run dogs on a high fence hunt. At least then the deer have more of a chance of getting away from "people in camo" because they are not true "hunters". Nutty, you don't honestly get it do you? Deer are wild animals. They live in NATURAL habitats. We do not "grow" deer. The deer raise themselves! You can only "grow" deer in a controlled environment.

Have you seen your shrink lately?

Casanova

February 25, 2009 at 9:40am

Deer need 3 things: Good genetics, nutrition, and age. If everybody keeps killing anything with a hard horn you wont have jack. People will keep bragging about how big a deer is in lbs.(I guess that is cool if you do a full body mount) instead of B & C or P & Y.

I believe high fences ruin the hunting experience. My dad and I gave up hunting South Texas for this reason back in the early 90's and went to Mexico. That was until they started kidnapping folks. Now we dont deer hunt.

CaptJS

February 25, 2009 at 9:50am

Never a big hunter but I have made many hunts with business and family. Every time there is a story about some one hunting on our propery, gun shots at night and reading about so called hunters killing one another over deer. Add the guy you find in your stand and hunting on your propery and you ask why a fence der. Last try hunting on a public area and you will never ask why a fence.

shootinem

February 25, 2009 at 2:12pm

Every state has a potential for big deer. Yes that's true. And yes if people start letting more deer walk you can produce bigger deer. That's obvious too. But just because a person doesn't let that spike or 3 point or 4 point walk, doesn't make them wrong for killing it. I myself don't hunt for the so called big rack I'd rather the good ole spike or 4 point over your 12 point any day of the week. I don't give a sh!t about B&C deer. Why do I need a wall full of mounted deer heads anyway? The point is to each there own. You hunt the way you want I'll hunt the way I want. Anyway I guess once you kill all the deer in the fenced in area they just bring in more deer huh. Fenced in hunting is unethical and derranged if you ask me!

BangFlop

February 25, 2009 at 2:33pm

This link says it all for me:

http://donjordanoutdoors.com/pages/canhunt.htm

or:

Google Jimmy Houston canned hunt and watch him kill a drugged deer in a pen. Quite the sportsman!

shootinem

February 25, 2009 at 5:05pm

I just checked out the link, and watched some you tube videos of hunting inside a fenced area, or as they call it "canned hunts". I don't see how any one could actually call that a sport, or even call it HUNTING, because it's not. The deer or whatever other animal you are hunting doesn't stand a chance at all. At least if I'm hunting deer on my property and I miss the deer has a chance to get away, if I never see it again on my property so be it. Bet in a canned hunt it will be back in ten minutes, or you chase it down on foot or truck and it has no place to go. And some of you have the nerve to say our dog hunting is not hunting. Wake up and think again.

CaptJS

February 25, 2009 at 7:36pm

Just watched a program where US Parks caught a guide that was hunting on a goverment preserve and bring the game to the hunter with a plane. This was in Alaska.

DownshiftAndFloorIt

February 25, 2009 at 7:41pm

You right to each his own, if it's legal. Shooting deer at night is illegal, immoral, and dangerous as hell. You need to get rid of those buddies or straighten em out. They might be good people but they are a shame to hunters and they need to be put under the jail.

AMERICAN STALLION

February 25, 2009 at 8:30pm

Nice conversation piece. For my money i can buy a 200inch reproduction rack for $300 and accomplish the same thing!

bayoubushwacker

February 25, 2009 at 11:14pm

For the price of that Trophy Hunt plus tax, I could lease 500 acres for 5 years and have it all to myself!

hunt r

February 25, 2009 at 11:27pm

my friends have 80 acres borders a lake, man buys 800 acres around it and high fences his leaving a strip outside his help hunts. should my friends quit hunting?

bayoubushwacker

February 26, 2009 at 12:00am

I hate to answer your question with a question but, if a person does fence in their property like that, by law, should they be forced to go in and remove all the whitetail deer from within the fenced area? I mean, this is the "States" deer and not his deer. Deer are free range and come and go from the property. That should go for any wildlife that are not capable of getting out by themselves excluding fish.

My suggestion would be NO, don't quit hunting. Because what the person has done is remove a section of "natural habitat" from the deer which should increase the deer in your area. Given the fact that they can still get around the fenced in area into your area.

shootinem

February 26, 2009 at 4:33am

I see your point bushwacker, and it's a very good one at that. Maybe the state should make him remove the deer from with in the fence it's not his deer. But as for the fish, it's a good point as well, but I know it's a State law that if you have any type of pond in your yard for landscaping, it has to be stocked with fish. I know this cause I put 1 in my front yard last year, nothing big4 foot wide 3 foot deep horshoe shape with a flower bed around it to make my yard look nice, and the state told me I had to stock it with fish for mosquito control. So I chose to use bass an perch for mine.

nutcracker

February 26, 2009 at 5:25am

the state made blackhawk remove the deer from his property as for as i heard--now you know if you have enough money in la. you can get away with anything--

the folks i know that hunted at night was done 30 yrs. ago when it was a normal thing for alot of folks--and yes if i knew someone doing it right now i would turn them in--

bayoubushwacker

February 26, 2009 at 5:43am

nutcracker, that is good news on both of the things that you just said. The wild deer should be removed and poachers should be turned in. Even if it is anonymous so that you and your family can stay safe. I simply could not look at a mount on my wall if I knew myself that it either came from an illegal night hunt and/or a canned hunt.

hunt r

February 26, 2009 at 11:08am

the state does't require that anymore. "the man" let his farmer and friends kill everything that moved for 2 yrs. before putting up fence. very few deer left. now the "80" is surrounded by high fence on 3 sides and large lake on the other side. all this land is surrounded by cotton fields for a mile on all sides, nowhere for new deer to come from. my question is, if these guys manage to kill a large buck, how will that be different than other fenced hunts? they have only seen 1 doe in 2 yrs. so that ain't likely!

BangFlop

February 26, 2009 at 12:48pm

You do know deer can swim don't you?

bayoubushwacker

February 26, 2009 at 2:07pm

"very few deer left. now the "80" is surrounded by high fence on 3 sides and large lake on the other side. all this land is surrounded by cotton fields for a mile on all sides, nowhere for new deer to come from."

I imagine that there isn't very many deer left. If it is only 80 acres and surrounded for a mile on all sides by a cotton field then, there is a small section of woods in the middle about 1/4 mile by 1/2 mile unless the 80 acres is square and not rectangular. And yea, deer are very good swimmers. Sounds like he ruined the hunting for himself.

hunt r

February 26, 2009 at 2:29pm

the guys with the "80" were fenced around. "the man restocked his 800 acres with deer from out of state. yes i know deer can swim, but how many would and where would they come from? the question is, if they get a buck on their land and don't shoot it 4 a few years till it gets huge? then they do, should this deer qualify bc or py?

BangFlop

February 26, 2009 at 3:01pm

You'd be surprised. I've watched them swim back and forth across the Mississippi for no apparent reason. You're right though, with no appreciable woods outside his preserve there wont be much call to swim away.

hunt r

February 26, 2009 at 3:18pm

1. how many will cross 1mile field, then swim lake to find 80 acres? 2. if the guys on the 80 pass a buck until it gets huge then shoot it should it count BC OR PY? the 80 is now "high-fenced" but they didnt do it, however the deer are still confined.

DownshiftAndFloorIt

February 26, 2009 at 3:27pm

I don't think that guy is gonna have a monster deer herd any time soon. Those deer might cross onto his place at night or something but that seems like an unlikely event. As far as it being p&y or b&c, I wouldnt care either way. If that dude lucks up and shoots something that big on his place who cares if it makes the books?

Slick_one30

February 26, 2009 at 3:41pm

Bushwacker I stayed out of this whole thing for one reason, and that is to each his own. The reason I just stepped in it is because the comment " Fact: The fact is, high fenced hunting bothers all descent hunters and descent people as the people who own them and hunt in them are indeed disturbed individuals. " I am a decent hunter and a decent person. Now of course you will come back and kinda say something cute about if the shoe fits or something like that but the fact remains IT does not bother me what others do as long as it doesnt affect me!!! Anyone can go fence hunting if they want I chose not to and if they want to spend the money lettem have it. Just keep me out of it please sir.

Slick

bayoubushwacker

February 26, 2009 at 4:05pm

Keep YOU out of it? This is your very first reply on this thread that I can see. Unless you have 2 usernames how could I be making a reference to you personally?

"Fact: The fact is, high fenced hunting bothers all descent hunters and descent people as the people who own them and hunt in them are indeed disturbed individuals."

OK. Let me rephrase that answer for you then. The fact is, high fenced hunting bothers MOST descent hunters and MOST descent people as the people who own them and hunt in them are indeed disturbed individuals.

There. Now you can be left out of the "masses". As you can see with this thread, the majority of the hunters are against high fenced hunting as ethics rank high on their list. High fenced hunting IS unethical even if it is legal. If you are not offended by it the, hey, that's your thing. Then you are not offended by others that do other sorts of unethical hunting as well. To each his own.

hunt r

February 26, 2009 at 4:24pm

would u care to learn more on this subject or do u just have a problem with bhk? not being smart, just asking?

Slick_one30

February 26, 2009 at 4:42pm

Now Bush just to let you know I am with you all the way on ethics but, my ethics lets me look past the ignorance of others. I have a mutal friend that braggs about his 178 killed off of BlackHawk and everytime he does I go home and look at my poor lil mangy 130 class and just say the samething everytime. HE NEVER KNEW I WAS THERE. I guarantee that fella cant say that!!!

bayoubushwacker

February 26, 2009 at 4:59pm

Ethics are based on the individual to a certain point. What may be considered "ethical" by you can be considered "unethical" by me. And there are simply things that are legal but, unethical.

Could you look past someone just shooting and wounding deer and leaving them just for the fun of it? I mean if it was deer season and they had a license, it is technically not illegal. But could you look past that?

Could you look past someone taking pop shots at deer 600 yards a way and never go and see if they hit anything? It can be legal but, unethical.

Could you look past someone catching a bass, cutting it's head off and throwing it back in the lake? To my knowledge, that is not illegal but, it is unethical.

There is an unwritten "code of ethics" amoung sportsmen. Too many people simply look past what others are doing that is unethical. We are in the eye of the public and when they see what one person does that is unethical then, they see all of us that way. That is what leads to us loosing our rights. As a part of that code, we should help to influence others into doing the right things. Not simply just look past them and there ignorance.

Congrats on the 130 class buck. It is one to be proud of. I wouldn't have shot the 178 class mustless hung it on my wall.

hunt r

February 26, 2009 at 5:03pm

why would u be ashamed of urs? thats comparing apples and oranges! 130 very good deer!

Slick_one30

February 26, 2009 at 5:07pm

I agree with you %100 on all of the above but fact is people will do what they want when they want. I am by far one of the most ethical people you will ever meet but I have come to learn and except you cant fix stupid and thats what these people really are. I have 2 boys 19 and 17 and I raise them and teach them with morals and ethics and make sure as long as im alive they will do what they were taught by me. And to answer your questions NO I dont agree with any of what you asked.

bayoubushwacker

February 26, 2009 at 5:09pm

I don't think he was saying he was ashamed of his. He was just comparing the size of the two. If it's on the wall then, I am sure he was proud of it.

It is one thing to be proud of your 130 class "scraggly" buck

It is another to brag about your "trophy" you killed in a high fence hunt.

Whom was the more skillful hunter? That would be Slick, hands down!

Slick_one30

February 26, 2009 at 5:13pm

That is exactly what I was saying Bayou.

hunt r

February 26, 2009 at 5:17pm

the reason i ask about bhwk is because i think there is a lot left to say here but i'm tired of adv. this land. start a new post on this subject.

shootinem

February 26, 2009 at 5:33pm

The high fence hunting is unethical, and it's not hunting at all. It's for those rich a$$ corperate guys who take their clients to hunt because they don't know what hunting is. And anyone who doesn't think fenced hunts are unethical are not real hunters, there idiot's!!

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