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OK folks, I need your ideas, or your club rules. It seems every year, I have guys that do plenty and some that do nothing. How do you handle work days. I know that not everyone has the same days off or works the same shifts. So give me you thoughts.
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   benlogan1
Hire help and charge the members that wont work the cost of the hired help.
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At our club we have designated stands and in years past a few would show up and do most of the work. This year the few agreed to take care of our own and if the others don't do it, they can hunt an over grown field, their choice. You'll be suprised how nice your area can be when you get to spend extra time on it. By the way your problem is not unique, have heard it from almost everyone I know that is in a lease.
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   hjason
We have just implemented a rule that if you do not show for at least one of the scheduled work days the member is charged $200. We have 3 days scheduled and those that dont show, PAY.
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hj we tried the pay if you don't show up to work. The problem is the lazy azzes would rather pay the money then go out and do the work and you still stuck with not enough hands to get the job done. It's a problem that almost every lease has, and the thing is you cant find people to replace them because once a year or so passes they will be just like the ones they replaced. GOOD LUCK
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   KENMAX
Do minimum hours per season requirement to stay in club. Then have minimum hours to work (we average) or pay $$$ per hour missed. Allow member to have someone else do the work also (son, cousin, etc).
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At no time in history has the commune system worked. Industrious people end up doing most of the work for the good of the group, and slackers take advantage. Ultimate failure results because even hard workers eventually get discouraged.

Adopt a capitalist system with individual ownership so that each member owns one, two, or three small food plots. They are his to maintain and hunt over and will only be as good as he's willing to make them.

It works. In our club you can't hunt anyone else's plot except by invitation from the plot owner.
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IMO money talks and BS walks; most clubs dues are due and may and june....to me a method that would work is you must make a certain amount established 'club' workdays or a certain fee is to be applied to membership. That fee should be enough to cover hiring help for that day. To me a couple days should be plenty to get the needed work done if it's shared though out the memberships. To me a good rate would be $100 per workday missed and minimum of two per year. When it comes time to pay dues they either fork out 200 extra or must put $200 worth back to the lease via providing a camp stand, establishing new food plot, ext. No exceptions and if not find them a new place to hunt because they don't care that much in the first place.
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you're right, most lazy members just pay the fine and sit at home. if you have assigned plots and only plant the ones you want, the lazy members will just move and hunt where they want. jack the fines up, and on the day only a few members show, after the seed and fuel is paid off, buy beer or steaks and have a camp cookout. only the workers will benefit, and the lazies will find out and complain that they either weren't invited or they don't agree with how the money is spent, which is a moot aguement. good luck, i've been in a few leases and it seemed like the same 5-8 guys show year after year, with maybe a drunk lazy show up at noon, that to me is worse.
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   ChazG70
Our club is simple if you don't do the work days you don't get your card. You have the option of having other members work for you. Which is good for some of the older members, or if your schedule does not match up with the work days. But if your name has not shown up on the list before the last meeting, you ain't hunting.
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you dont work you dont hunt we got 2 work days piss on a lazy man got no use
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I agree Every lease is going to have lazy azzes. I think they should have the option to make it up in a timely manner though due to the way some people work unless they would just rather pay then that's fine also. I would use that money Thats collected and put back into the club like for elec.,water,etc. Only for the ones that's always out maintaining the club for everyone to enjoy. Some people just don't realize how much more work they put on the other members to make it nice and some just don't give a shit either. I agree with the $100 for a work day and think that's a fare enough fee. Good luck huntin
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   CLETUS
No work! kickem out! unless the excuse is a reasonable one. Then add new members to take their place.
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Okay, here is my take. Unless you are in a club that shares meat from a hunt by all members present, what difference does it make if you make work days? When we ran dogs, you were obligated to 10 hours of work, which was mostly maintaing the road and cleaning out go devil runs.

If I'm in a club where each member gets his own area to put up stands, what difference does it make if I show up to work on other people's food plots? How bout I stake out my area, without foodplots?
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The difference is, is that the lazy 10% of members , don't ever realize that there is much more WORK to be done than putting up a stand and cutting a few branches. It takes more than 1 weekend to keep a hunting operation rolling. But I can see missing work days at the camp when you have to check everyone's spelling on the internet???

Some guys are just fine with showing up and hunting on opening day. They never realize that 'other people's' food plots help to hold deer on the property, and keep them traveling through the property. Just because you don't sit over another guy's food plot, doesn't mean that plot is not helping out your hunting.
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   bigjim
Hey Rob Jimbo hows it going? I'll tell what works excellent on our club. We have a couple (2) scheduled in advance workdays that you must make in order to hunt. If you can't make it for some reason okay then you come up the next weekend and do a specific job say cut/clean all trails around 80 acres north of pipeline. Then we have ownership of our area. This is my favorite part about our club. Each person gets two spots that you build clean hunt however you want plus you can hunt anywhere else you want. The lazy ones never have a good spot and never hardly kill a deer and I'm fine with that but they show up the night before opening day ready to hunt. They claim they can't find a good spot or whatever. The ownership of a spot has created great hunting for the ones who want to hunt and they go the extra mile to make it good, clearing food plots, nice stands, supplemental feeding in spring and summer, liming and nice plots. We haven't had one issue in seven years now with this system and everyone's happy except the one or two lazy ones. Eventually the lazy ones get out and you slowly replace them with better quality people. The good quality people who take ownership of their area stay forever. Yes if anyone breaks any rule such as hunting someone else's spot without permission or shooting undersized deer they are finished for the year....
It's tough to implement such a plan but if you do people will stand in line to join your club as everyone wants their own piece of heaven. Hope this helps.
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...all this can get worst than international politics...ever wonder if there's a law of diminishing big mouths ???...some say it's better to fly solo...cheer

P/S...I relate this to the back seat of a muti/engine aircraft once and heard the the pilot tell the co-pilot...'Ya fly 'ya engine and let me fly mine' and 'you shut-up back 'dar' ???

another P/S...remember in most cases, there's only a crowd on the first and last weekends...in 'da learn'n process 'ya might want to hunt w/ more seasoned people durn'n the week...also before the leveage of 'da lease is paid a extra '$200 UP FRONT GOING IN' (that is a 'pre-paid refundable work fund ' ) is better than pull'n teeth while they runn'n down 'da road !!!... cheers
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   padou
I KNOW EVERYONE'S SCHEDULE CAN'T MATCH UP ALL THE TIME, BUT THERE CAN BE OTHER ARRAGEMENTS. WE WORK OURS OUT WITH MEMBERS TO ALLOW THEM TO COME UP AND DO WORK ON THE LEASE WHEN THEY CAN. WE ALSO FINE MEMBERS WHO DON'T RECORD 2 WORK WEEKENDS, 100.00 PER DAY. NO EXCEPTIONS!!! ANY PROBLEMS AFTER THAT, SOMEONE HITS THE ROAD.
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   shobear
I am so tired of hearing about these people. Set 2 or 3 work weekends well ahead of season. In fact make them the same 3 weekends every year. Eazy, you show up for one of those 3 or you dont hunt.There is plenty of land(WMA's) out there that our tax dollars pay for people like this. These people have 1,000 excuses why they cant make the work weekend, but you notice its the same bums that sure enough amazingly can make it up there opening weekend and others during hunting season. I dont know maybe its my military background that gives me 0% tollerance for B.S. - Just my 2 cents.
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